This is seriously so embarrassing, but I have been studying for going on five months now, averaging about 15--20 hours on a good week and I have taken six practice tests. The highest I have scored was a 148 once, but the last few tests were 143-145. I feel completely discouraged. I have put so much time in already and my score has actually gone down after two months of studying. I am equally bad in all areas it appears. I cannot figure out where I am going wrong or if my brain is just not meant for this kind of stuff, especially after reading that people are scoring 160 for just their diagnostic. I am signed up for the November test, and I do not know if I should push it out further, but I hear it is harder to get in if you apply so late in January. I am also going to school full time and graduate in the Spring. It is a lot trying to do both at the same time. Help! Also, I cannot figure out why I can do fine on Logic Games, but during the practice test, it is like everything I know flies out the window. My reading comprehension is also horrid, despite doing well on many practice problems.

So I am super late to the game but just recently figured out that CAS is not 45 dollars total but 195 dollars plus 45 for each school. I definitely can't afford that for every school on my list. I indicated that I did not need assistance paying for the LSAT and could afford it but dropping more than a grand on applications between their fees and CAS is something I cannot afford to do. I am worried that applying for a fee waiver will take longer than I can afford to wait to apply though. For those of you that have done it, how long did a decision take?

How tough is it to get a full ride?

I graduated in 2019 with a 3.9 GPA and just got a 162 on my first timed practice test, have been studying for a couple weeks but haven't gotten to the reading comprehension or logic games section of the core curriculum yet. I got a -10 on the LG section and I know that is typically the easiest area to improve so I think I should be able to pick up some easy points there. My target is a 170+

I am currently working full time and I find it pretty tough to go from a solid income to having to take out loans to go to law school, but if I got a full ride I would definitely consider it.

Does anyone have any guesses as to what type of scholarships these numbers could land? The soonest I can take the LSAT would be January. I am assuming it would be pretty tough to get scholarships that late in the cycle? I am willing to wait until the Fall 2022 cycle if that means a higher likelihood of a full ride to a decent school.

Thank you in advance for the advice.

I've heard conflicting advice on including those 'extra' sections (Academic Interests / Travel / Random Facts) intro your law school resume. Does anyone have some thoughts on this?

Right now I have my resume drafted as to include all three (because I have space and because I just wanted to put everything on the page and then remove as necessary).

So, I submitted my application to Vanderbilt. A week later, I emailed admissions and asked to be considered for ED because I truly thought they were my first choice. I just got my acceptance to GW, and I'm not as certain anymore about Vanderbilt. Would it absolutely kill my chances to rescind my early decision application now? Would I look indecisive (which I totally am), or would it not matter that much?

Has anyone spoken with LSAC and found out if they're leaning towards Flex for January & February? I just tried to register for January but there aren't any test centers available, which is strange because there are always test centers available this far in advance.

February has the generic "(city) area test center" listed instead of the usual specific centers while April does have the specific centers.

Hi folks! I have been studying for months and am registered to take my second LSAT in November. I'm unsure whether I should go ahead and take it in November or push it to January. My last 3 PTs were: 168, 168, 167. I desperately want to score at least a 170. I work full time so I don't have 40+ hours a week to study. I study in the mornings, evenings, and all day weekends. For people who have been in a similar situation before, do you think 30 days is enough to have that breakthrough into the 170s?

Thanks so much!

I took the GRE last summer when I thought I would be applying to humanities PhD programs, who really don't care about the math section. I did well in the verbal (99th percentile) and okay in the writing (92nd percentile), but didn't study or try at all in the math section and ended up in the 41st percentile. Should I still submit my scores to law schools? The score report doesn't even provide an overall score like the LSAT, just the breakdowns by section, so I'm wondering if they evaluate it the same way? Seems like the relevant sections to success in a legal career are writing and verbal, but I don't know.

I took the October LSAT-Flex and I'm still waiting on my score. If I do well, I might just play it safe and not submit GRE scores at all. Thoughts?

This was gonna be my first LSAT and I wasn’t able to take it. I logged in and then proctor took over, then the computer began to lag like crazy. We kept on disconnecting. My internet is fine and is fast but when they took over, it went to crap. We tried to fix it for two hours and no luck. I went to buy a usb Ethernet adaptor to fix the connection issue by connecting my laptop directly to the modem. The proctor told me to call LSAC to see what we can do and he even said to download the chat box later to try again. I talked to tech support for proctor u and they didn’t know about this chat box (this one that allows the proctor to talk to you and take over your computer) but told me to email them to reschedule. Today was the last day to take the exam on the schedule. Wth! Am I screwed here? Anyone have/had this issue and is there a way to take the October exam still?

During the sign in process with my proctor, my webcam signal was not being received. I spent more than 4 hours with technical support resolving the issue, but when it finally was resolved, I was informed that my examination window had closed and that I needed to contact LSAC to request an extension. When I called the testing support line, a guy told me that all LSAT slots were full until January! That doesn't seem right... Does anyone know if there's a special route for people to sign up for a new session if they were unable to write due to tech issues?

Hey guys! I was curious as to how you all have gone about studying different game types. Do I need to wait till I master one before moving on to the next? Or can I do a few at once? I'm taking the November test and logic games is what's holding me back. I'm only getting about 11-12 correct. Thanks in advance!

Looking for one or two people who want to swap resumes and personal statements through email and give some feedback. Thanks!

Did your proctor have to put in the password each time a new section started? I took the flex today, I have accommodations but I'm not sure if this was normal or not. I don't want to freak out so if this also happened to you, please share!

Hi community! I am taking the November test and looking for accountability/BR partner. Currently scoring in the mid 160s and am trying to get close to 170 -- might be an unrealistic/ambitious goal as test date is close. LR/RC are my weaker sections, they alternate depending on the test, LG is 0 to -2. I am in the east coast and currently working + doing a masters, but I can be flexible during evening time/weekends. My goal is to take and BR at least 2 PTs a week and also go over LR fundamentals/basics and practice them with one or two study partners. Please let me know if you'd like to work together or have any tips for test takers struggling with LR (LR was -7 to -9 but brought it down to -4 to -5 after going through Loophole, but since then no improvement)!

I've been working my way through the PTs starting with the earlier ones. I have pretty consistently been getting a 161. This week I took a practice test from 2017 and got a 167. Was this a fluke or are the newer ones easier?

This is a pretty basic question but I have been unable to find a clear answer online.

What is the format of a standard LSAT? All the practice tests on here are 4 sections. Is that standard? I know this has changed with the new FLEX test which is only 3 sections but the January test looks like it will switch back to a standard LSAT format.

I have also seen things online about 6 section exams or 5 section exams... and have heard of an 'experimental section' being in exams. Is this 'experimental section' scored? Do you know it is the 'experimental section' when you take it?

I am also curious on the timing aspect? Is there any break between sections? I would assume so since you have 35 minutes per section and I do not believe you can go back to a prior section if you finish a later section early. How long is the break between each section? I have seen info on a 15 minute break between section 3 and 4 but that is it. If it were a 4 section test I would expect the break to be between 2 and 3?

I apologize if any of this was hard to follow, just wanted to lay all my thoughts out there.

I'd love to have a better idea of exactly what the format of the standard LSAT is to make sure I am preparing properly.

Thank you in advance.

#help

Does anyone have experience with this?? On both LG and RC sections, I lost connection and ultimately, my vid cut out. They took 30 minutes and still couldn't solve it, which for RC meant that what I'd read was not in my brain anymore. I requested to reschedule rather than spend more time waiting for no reason.

Will I be able to reschedule?? I'm so upset!

Hello everyone,

Anyone trying to review LR and RC over Zoom before the November test. I'm currently in a mid/high 150's plateau and would love to link up with someone in this same situation shooting for the same goal score.

If anyone has Zoom and would like to share their link so we can meet a couple times a week, let me know!

I just took my October Flex today. I asked my proctor specifically before the test begin if he would pause my test should I lose internet connection, and he said yes. The first section was LG, and I was about to go into the last game (with six questions total) with about 6 minutes remaining, when my wifi cut out. I took about 20 minutes to reset the router, and when I finally reconnected, this time with another proctor, I was allowed to resume my test.

However, when the proctor "resumed" my session, I immediately got kicked into my next Section. As time was already running in the 2nd section, I had to decide either to continue with the test and bring up the issue with the first section at the end of the exam, or just call it off right there and then and sort it out with LSAC. I decided to go with the former, still thinking that the first proctor saved my progress (since he promised...).

The RC and LR sections felt like a blur. I tried my best to concentrate, but I was still worried that they didn't save my progress. And of course, exactly that happened. After completing my final section, I was transported to the LawHub Completion page. I asked my proctor to allow me to resume my first section. They made me wait for almost an hour, only to be told to contact LSAC myself. So I did. I called LSAC, and I was told that "an email" would be sent to me, listing my options. However, I was told these options won't include allowing me to complete my first Section or letting me take a brand new LG section to supplement Section 1.

Now I'm just sitting, still in shock, trying to keep myself together, and waiting for an email that probably wouldn't help me.

I just tested my system on ProctorU and it said upload speed could not be found. Then it says * Why would some system information not be found?

Firefox does not allow access to CPU and RAM information. To check for these metrics, test your equipment again using Chrome Browser.

When gathering your system's information, the ProctorU Browser Extension is used to retrieve some metrics. If the ProctorU Browser Extension is not currently installed, then these metrics will not be found. In addition, your browser's privacy settings might also disallow this page from retreiving certain system information.

Should I be freaking out right now??

I was just taking my test. Was doing so good on logic games had so much time left for the last game, and my computer died. It was at 100 when I started. I don’t know why I didn’t bring a charger. Now I can’t reconnect on a different computer. I want to cry

Hi all!

I'd been thinking about this for some time and I couldn't come up with a satisfactory answer myself so I decided to write here.

After graduating from college I interned at a government contracting firm for 6 months.

First 3 months was with Financial Management,

Second 3 months was with Leadership and Organizational Development.

Both supervisors from both departments liked me. I believe I was going to be offered an extension for another 3 months at the end, however,

I was basically transferred over to L&OD from FM because nobody could train me and they wanted someone who could do finance and accounting who didn't need training (my background is not in this area). They thought they could train me to do the job at the time of hiring.

I think my supervisor from FM (the first internship) would write me a better LOR because that was before Covid and he's recognized my work ethics and attitude but I'm concerned about the fact that I was transferred because I couldn't perform the tasks for the job.

The supervisor from the second 3-months also liked me but I don't think he will have much to write about in the letter because we all worked from home and he barely saw me during the last 3 months.

I quit after 6 months due to possible exposure to Covid and also to start studying full time for LSAT.

My first question is should I even ask for an LOR from such short internships?

If yes, which supervisor do you think I should ask for the LOR??

Any thoughts will be greatly appreciated and good luck for those of you are writing NOV LSAT!

Just took this one and it absolutely annihilated me. 8 point drop from my previous PT.

Would like to hear anyone else's experience with this one.

Best of luck to everyone in their studies.

Hi everyone,

As we recently announced, we've created lessons to explain law courses you’ll take in your 1L year. As part of that effort, we also want to teach you how to write a law school exam.

Law school exams truly are unlike any exams you’ve written in undergrad. That in and of itself is daunting enough. They also happen to account for the entirety of your 1L grades.

Therefore, if your 1L grades are important to you, it’s important that you become acquainted with how to write good exams.

So, we’re giving every student enrolled in an LSAT or Admissions course the opportunity to take part in a mock Crim Law exam. We don’t want your very first experience with writing an exam to be one with so much riding on it. Rather, do a trial run with us and we’ll hold your hand. We’ve temporarily opened up some lessons normally available only to students enrolled in our Law School Explained courses.

If you want to take advantage of this opportunity, first listen to or watch some lectures (appx 2.5 hours), then read one case (appx 45 mins), and finally write an exam (2 hours).

“Waah, that’s a boatload of work!”

It sure is.

From the exams that we collect, we will select three, anonymize them, and offer detailed feedback.

The lessons, the exam, and the feedback will all be provided by Prof. Daniel Epps of Washington University in St. Louis School of Law.

If your essay is selected for review, you’ll be receiving personalized feedback on how to improve your writing. The catch is that the feedback will become part of the course to benefit other students as well.

If you submit an essay and we do not select it for review, you’ll still gain free access to the critiques of the three essays that we do select. This will enable you to compare your own exams to see where you can do better. Normally, those lessons would be only available to students enrolled in our Law School Explained courses.

If you’re concerned about the odds of your essay being selected, I’d direct your attention to the quote above. Because we’ve setup the process to be time consuming and demanding, I don’t expect that we’ll get too many responses. This mimics what you’ll quickly come to expect as normal once you’re in law school. It also has the additional effect of filtering for only the original gunners.

If that’s you, then I wish you good luck.

You may begin here.

Deadline for completion is October 31.

Hi, guys,

If anyone would like to trade and review personal statements, please DM me! I've just finished the first draft of mine and am in need of help with proofreading and revisions. I would be more than happy to do the same for anyone else!