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So, I have recently started fool proofing PTs 1-35, and it has been about 3-4 weeks now. I am definitely seeing small improvements, but for some reason I had my hopes up to finish the fool proofing process before summer ends, leaving me to start doing PT throughout the school year. Oddly enough, I've figured out that doing 4 games a day and fool proofing them all takes an insanely long amount of time. I am curious on if I didn't fool proof every single game, just the majority of them. My target score is 160 and I'm wondering if I can afford to skip some games during the fool proofing process. As of right now, I am not even close to halfway done with all of the games, and considering doing most but not all of the games in order to get into full PTs.

So along with that, I was wondering how many games a day you all recommend in order to complete fool proofing in a reasonable amount of time. I have been trying to consistently hit 4 games a day, but of course there are days where I do less. It just concerns me with taking so long, because I don't want to forget all of the information I learned in the CC on LR. Any advice is appreciated!

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hi guys. for those of you who have taken an LSAT Flex already I was wondering how the proctoru registration works. I am registered for the August flex; am I supposed to register for an account myself or will LSAC email us directions about it? If so, do you know when they typically send out this email?

Thank you! :)

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I've just taken my third practice test, and not once have I finished a single section on time. Sometimes I have as many as ten questions left on a given section. I am able to do fairly well on my BR (168 on my second test), so I think that comprehension is not the main problem. I am just not able to get through the questions quickly enough. I would appreciate if you guys could share with me what methods you used to become faster at taking the test.

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Hi guys I really need some advice on when to take the LSAT. I was planning on taking the October 3, 2020 exam and then the November 14th, 2020 to have law school applications done in December early January but I do not know what to do. I have been using khan academy for the past 2 months and keep getting mid-to highs 140s. I just signed up for 7sage and I NEED a 160. What should I do about the exams? should I postpone one and take it in January and delay applications? What are you guys' experience with 7 sage in terms of how many points did you increase in 2 months? HELP!!

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Can it be harmful to take the LSAT twice? I took the flex in July and received a score I am content with. However, I know I can score up to 5-6 points higher but, sometimes I score lower than what i got on my PT as well. My question is if I scored say 3 points lower could this sabotage the score I have already have and do most schools evaluate both scores. I come here because I have seen mixed answers elsewhere.

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Hi all!

I feel like I'm stuck in a rut with my studying. I've been FP LG which has been really helpful, but with LR I find myself scoring worse than I did when I first started studying.

What are some specific actions/ methods you used in seeing increases in LR? How did you realize what wasn't working and what did you do to get past it? How does LR studying look for you? Do you take PTs, drill, BR?

I hope to get some inspiration and guidance on how to see consistent improvements. Thanks in advance!

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Of course, you can't talk to yourself during an in-person exam with others in the room. But I am wondering if the flex rules might be more lenient with this, since there won't be anyone to disturb. Anyone have insight as to whether talking during the flex is prohibited?

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Does anybody want to create a small LSAT Vent group? This is something different than a study group; we wouldn't study topics or questions. Instead, we would:

  • Meet weekly on zoom for about 45 mins (10 min max for each person to give an update on their process, plus a little in-between time)
  • Be about four people
  • Check in about how LSAT studying is going, or anything else in the law school application process, whether good, bad, ugly
  • Complain as needed
  • Gloat as needed
  • Share personal progress goals; check in about how we did in meeting last week's goals (yay social pressure)
  • Create a whatsapp group for more daily gripes, accountability needs and/or celebrations
  • People could obviously plan study sessions from there if desired. But this space would not be centered on studying, but on simple camaraderie: an outlet for venting, for hold ourselves accountable to personal goals, for celebrating growth, for voicing fears and frustrations, and basically airing out any other LSAT related thoughts with people who are also going through the process.

    Probably we should be in a similar boat: I am studying 5-6 days a week, 4-9 hours per day. Reply or message me!

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    I came across this today and thought it would be a useful resource to share with others: It's a podcast giving tips on applying from the dean of admissions of Harvard and Yale. It hasn't officially started yet, but it's scheduled to start mid-August.

    http://yalepodcasts.blubrry.net/category/navigating-law-school-admissions/

    Podcast Name: Navigating Law School Admissions with Miriam & Kristi

    Hope this is helpful to someone

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    Hi everyone, so it is taking a great deal of courage to post about this publicly, and I hope I will not be judged. I have been using 7Sage since December (doing it alongside normal college coursework) and took the July Flex exam. Right up to the exam, I was scoring anywhere from 159-163 on PTs. I got a 152 on the July exam and I am crushed, discouraged, and feeling hopeless. Was this just test anxiety? Is there any general advice that anyone can give me? Thank you, feeling down.

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    Hi guys! I wanted to ask some of you about early vs regular decision deadline. I'm aiming to apply by early decisions deadline (by November) but will that make any difference in scholarships and getting accepted (like a higher chance of getting accepted)? Or is it better to just wait for regular admissions if I know my LSAT score will be higher? I would love to know about any of your experiences on this!!

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    I’m incredibly grateful to the 7Sage community for helping me get to his point—I’m absolutely thrilled to be attending my dream school. This is a truly wonderful community dedicated to helping each other master what is an intimidating, but surmountable, obstacle. Thank you JY and everyone else for creating such an amazing resource.

    I had a lot of trouble with the LSAT. In 2015, I took the test once, cancelled after a bubbling error, and got a 166 on my second attempt. With that score, I got into a number of mid-range T14s, but could never have gotten into a HYS (my uGPA was a 3.91, so I was a splitter). I really wanted to go to HYS so I could have an easier door to legal academia, and I decided to go to graduate school instead for a doctorate (still not finished) with the intention of re-applying to law school eventually.

    I half-assed my way through two more takes in the early days of grad school without really studying for the exam: I figured it would just “click” eventually. I got mid-160s both times, and I thought I had doomed myself out of a place like Yale with that number of takes.

    In 2019, I finally dedicated myself to making my way through the entire Ultimate+ curriculum and the results showed: I went from the low 160s (my diagnostic after so long away from the test) to a 175 on the July 2019 LSAT. I studied every day for about three and a half months using 7Sage, and drilling everything I would get wrong. I felt incredibly comfortable on test day, because 7Sage had taught me everything I could possibly see on the test. There are only so many forms of questions they can ask, and if you practice all of them enough you will have the time needed to get through the 2-3 curveballs they will throw at you.

    There are a lot of big-picture lessons that I took away from my journey to a higher LSAT. JY has already said them numerous times, but it always helps to enumerate them again:

  • Every question has one CLEARLY correct answer and four ABSOLUTELY WRONG answers. I know we all want to be lawyers, and arguing different positions is a default for many of us. But that’s not what the LSAT is testing. Instead, it’s looking to see if you can identify factual patterns in questions. Once I came to accept this lesson, eliminating marginally-wrong answers became much easier for me.
  • Skipping questions is the best thing you can do on the test. The LSAT is all about time. I know that skipping questions is always emphasized as a strategy, but mentally I just couldn’t do it. For me, skipping a question represented a failure and a lost point. But of course, that point is worth a lot less than the five points I risked by not finishing the final page in time. I had to start forcing myself to start skipping questions. I set out by saying that I would skip at least five questions per LR section. The amount of time I had in the sections skyrocketed when I did this. It gave me confidence to start routinely skipping questions, and on the actual test day I finished all the sections with time to spare. That had never happened to me before.
  • Foolproof the low-hanging fruit. My biggest weaknesses ended up being my strengths: logic games, and must be true/SA/NA questions. I drilled NA/SA questions every day, until I could run through them in about a third of the time I had before. I also just kept running through the logic games of the first 16 tests, until I could do each one within a few minutes. It helped my LG section a ton—I would usually finish with about 5-10 minutes of extra time, which was a) a comforting buffer in case something went horrendously wrong, and b) it gave me time to meditate and breathe. Get comfortable with the low-hanging fruit and you will have more time for the other questions.
  • Gaining basic knowledge of subjects is helpful. I really struggled with the science RC sections. There were words in there that just looked like gobbledygook. I started reading as many ScienceNews.org articles as I could, and I got more comfortable. I can’t recommend ScienceNews enough for LSAT prep. The articles are almost always the exact length of a section, they almost always bring in an outside source to comment on the piece, and they are just complicated enough to serve as a good proxy for the exam. In fact, I wouldn’t be shocked if LSAC took passages from ScienceNews. Get comfortable with reading subjects you don’t entirely understand. Unrelatedly, I also found that understanding statistics, and in particular having a strong background in causal inference, was incredibly helpful for moving through the flaw questions in LR. If you are struggling there, I highly recommend taking a day to watch some videos on causation.
  • Mistakes are your ticket to a 180. I can’t stress this enough: mistakes on tests are the most valuable things you can look for. You need to document when you’ve missed a question, and you need to be using the “flag” option on 7Sage to mark when you struggled with a question (in case you get it right and forget it was difficult). I used to get mad at myself whenever I missed a question, and rather than focus on correcting the situation, I would chastise myself for being “an idiot.” Mistakes tell you where you need to focus, and where you can improve your score. Take lots of tests, get a statistically relevant sample size, and refocus your studies on those areas. I found it to be difficult to do this, because I inherently hated studying the questions I struggled to understand, but it’s what got me to a high score.

  • I know that these points might seem obvious, but I can’t emphasize their importance enough. I really struggled to grasp them, but doing so served me well.

    The LSAT is hard. Actually, it's really hard. But there is a light at the tunnel, and I hope anyone who is struggling with the test can take some solace in that it eventually does work out. I had one cancelled test and three mid-level scores for a top 3 school before I finally hit that 175. My path wasn’t ideal (don’t take the LSAT 5 times—I think I got lucky here), but it does show that you should keep trying if you are confident you can do better. I knew I could, even when the results strongly suggested otherwise, and I am glad I kept at it until it eventually clicked. Yes, I’m going to law school five years after I planned it, but I would have made this trade when I graduated college, and I am glad it has worked out fairly well in the end. Good luck, and please message me if I can be of help.

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    Hi, any advice on how to best prepare for a retake at the end of August? I think I can do better than my July Flex score which was sub-165. I have done LSAT trainer, skimmed Loophole, and did most of the CC over the last 3 months. I also took PTs 73-89, C2, 61, and 50 (20 PTs) as part of my July prep. My 20 PT avg was 170. My most recent 10 PT avg was 172. Most recent 5 was 174. I diagnosed my July results as caused by a combo of 1) semi-external-being-at-home-factors which I plan to mitigate next time plus 2) nerves plus 3) a tough games section (cabinets...) which sort of mentally rocked me ( I may have gotten more than 5 wrong in LG) having gotten used to the -0/-1 LG feeling plus 4) just not my day.

    I plan to drill a hard game problem sets daily (3 star plus games) and drill LR & RC sections. Any other "canonical" advice for re-take refinements for test takers who are pretty close to their ceiling but failed to execute on try 1?

    Any advice on which remaining PTs to use as full PTs? I was probably going to only do 71 and 72 (whose games I have unfortunately already seen) in the last ten days or so.

    Also, this is just me looking for encouragement/needing gas-up but my PTs do indicate I can do better on this thing, right? sigh... Good luck to everyone prepping for this thing. The highs and lows! Onwards!

    Thank you!

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    Hello, I was wondering if anyone had any tips for improving as well as executing the RC section, thanks in advance!

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    Hi Everyone,

    Application season is upon us (a month away until applications open) and was trying to get a head start. I highly recommend everyone to begin the process for uploading your transcripts. My school uses a specific program called "Parchment" and in the request it asks for the recipients phone number (this being LSAC's phone number). Is there a specific number to put because I can't find one anywhere?

    Additionally, I am going to write an addendum to go along with my application. Does anyone know where and how to upload that with your application?

    Best,

    A fellow

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    Reading Comp is my worst section by far because I can get lost in the complexity or density of the reading and lose too much time or I can struggle in other ways. What advice does anyone have for doing well on reading? Any secrets I need to focus on to improve?

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    Say i submit my transcript now before my final year of undergrad and do not apply anywhere until after the first semester, does my transcript automatically update and reflect this upcoming semester, or will i have to resubmit my transcript through LSAC again after the semester in order for it to contain this upcoming semester's grades? Thanks in advance for the replies!

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    I am having an incredibly hard time trying to digram the logic.

    I diagramed the third sentence as follows:

    /Profit Making ----> subsidy support (outside control)

    The last sentence was the hardest for me to diagram. "No one will subsidize honest journalism"

    No= G4=negate, necessary

    Two ideas:

    willing to subsidize??

    honest journalism

    honest journalism ----> /willing to subsidize

    I think part of my confusion with this last sentence is trying to figure out what the two distinct ideas are.

    I am also having a hard time trying to figure out how the third sentence and fourth sentence are linked together. I thought the correct answer was A.

    Thanks in advance!

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