So I took the test in June and got a 163, took it again in July and got the same exact score so I canceled and signed up for October. I just got back my October score, and I got a 160... I'm feeling really anxious because it seems that it will look really bad to law schools that I did worse on a recent exam. I don't plan on applying for a few years, but I'm dreading the thought of having to take this exam again. I'm also stressing because I've taken courses and read a ton of prep material, and also took pretty much every PT. I'm at a point where I don't know what I should do.

Has anyone been in this same situation? Any advice?

I'd appreciate any input at this point.

Hi all,

I wanted to thank 7sage for providing amazing and affordable resources for my LSAT journey. It was a long and exhausting, but definitely worth it. I studied for over a year, and it was always encouraging to see stories where people had improved significantly. I hope that my story helps others to see that improving by 18 points or more is totally possible with hard work! Good luck to everyone on the rest of their LSAT studies!

Hi everyone, I just finished my core curriculum, and I have some strategies I want to impelement in the drilling and preptest stages and I want to talk to someone, one on one in private chat or skype or whatever medium is easier, it really helps to hear someone else's impression of my studying strategy and to get some quick pointers, I do have some friends who have done lsats who I can speak with but usually they give me very general tips and then get back to work to hit their billing target for the month lol, jk but really wondering if this practice is even a thing.

Thank you!

Does anyone know where the 2023 Law School Admissions Forum is these days? It looks like it's not on TLS or LSN.

Sorry this is a bit late, but I wanted to give a very big shout out and thank you to JY for conducting multiple BR sessions with prep test 88. I can't tell you how incredibly helpful that was, and it was great to get to know some of the other 7sagers as we went along. JY, thanks for taking a huge amount of your time to help us get better scores. It also is quite an honor to get to work directly with you. I'm sure we are all better for the experience.

I’m not seeing any, so just checking.

With LSAC's recent announcement that they will release lsat scores to law schools before the lsat writing review has been completed, I wonder about how this policy change will affect CAS reports.

My report is currently being held up because LSAC hasn't released my writing sample review (despite completing it before an applicable application deadlines), although my october score was released today. However, within my LSAC account, my law school report appears ready to be sent. The report status under the school I applied to says :

"Report generated: type credential"

Does this mean that the CAS report has been generated and will be sent?

Thanks!

Been studying since June this year and will take the real thing on Monday November 25th. I just high scored on PT 71 at 175!! I'm really confident now for monday and feel like the hard work will pay off. Good luck to everyone who is testing as well and just know you will do great! Thank you 7sage!!

Hello to everyone taking the November LSAT next week and I wanted to wish you good luck and tell you that we freaking GOT THIS IN THE BAG. We're gonna kill it and don't let anyone tell you otherwise!

Apologies if this has been answered before but preparing LG drills and I noticed there have not been any spatial games in an exam since ~PT 35.

Has this been noted by LSAC / is it considered "dead?" Just trying to hone in on games before the test next week and want to make sure I am using my time wisely.

Thanks so much!

Hey so I’m just starting to PT. I was wondering if it’s normal to PT, BR, and Check answers each on different days? Since this score has tons of wrong answers (I’ve done 2 pt’s and got 140, and143), I feel like to do all 3 in one day and try another PT right after seems a bit excessive.

10/26/2021 Update: I am currently a 2L at USC Gould. Feel free to DM me questions about the LSAT, the application process or law school. My journey was far from ideal, but I hope I can provide some insight.

Overview of my journey:

I'm writing this for a bit of inspiration for anyone that is in need of it because my journey was not easy, but it sure paid off because I stuck to it.

I studied on/off for nearly two years total. My diagnostic was a 144 back in Jan 2017. After finishing the 7Sage CC, I was sitting at a 152 in May of 2017. I made sure to really take my time with the lessons and I hope everyone does the same as well--it was time well spent and I would definitely do it this way again.

Post CC was really where the grind began. I was dead set on a 170 score.

My first take: 161 in December 2017.

Second take: 161 in December 2018.

After studying for 10 months 5.5 days a week for 8 hours a day, I received the SAME EXACT SCORE.

I was actually depressed after this test. I was emotionally numb for about a month, it was rough. The following weeks post-results felt like a nightmare I would eventually wake up from. In particular, LSAT was my life at this point, and to have zero improvement on the only thing I was focused on was one of the toughest feelings out there. Most of all, I had nobody to blame but myself.

I took a two month break and got back to hitting the test hard again for 4 months.

Third take: 166 in June 2019.

Same study plan, but I used the BEST tutor, @"Cant Get Right." I'm not sure how the rules are for plugging people, but he was just phenomenal with picking out my weaknesses and helping me combat them in an understandable way. I cannot say enough great things about Josh. Here is his website. https://www.nevermorelsat.com/

Top 3 tips:

DO NOT USE ALL THE PT MATERIAL. I cannot stress this enough. I would feel so confident after blind reviewing a PT from learning an immense amount from it that I would take another right away WITHOUT drilling weaknesses. Not surprisingly, I would receive similar scores, on average, because I failed to address weaknesses. Sure I spent days on BR ripping apart questions, but what's that worth if I never addressed the underlying problem by drilling it away? Make sure to save PT material and use it wisely. Personally, I ran out and that created a ton of unnecessary problems. Without drilling in-between PTs, I would waste limited PTs on full tests to receive very little benefit from using all that material. Please don't make this mistake.

Good, bad, or otherwise, DO NOT let the overall score get to you, ever. When practicing for this test for an extended amount of time, the most important thing to know for keeping one's mental in the right place is that an overall score is simply a really poor gauge for your improvement. Seems a bit counterintuitive, right? Of course, to combat this, 7sage takes the last 5 PTs and averages them for your improvement score. Although this is more accurate, it's still a poor indicator of IMPROVEMENT. Allow me to explain why. LSAC has thousands of tricks that they use. Some happen more than others. It takes time to learn these tricks and just because you learned a few new tricks or new ways of thinking on your most recent PT BR, that doesn't mean those aspects are going to be tested again in the next PT you do. It actually would make sense that ideas being testing on in, let's say, PT61, are going to be testing totally different tricks than those used in PT60, since the previous test may have been released for people to study it. For example, LSAC is NOT likely to put two 5 star questions with a very similar small trick in them, in sequential PTs. But some people take PTs in sequential order. So while you are actually improving, you are likely being tested on the areas you have yet to ever see. So please don't look at the final score and think THAT is the measure of your improvement.

Here is an optimistic way of thinking that helped me keep my drive, despite the scores: The more missed questions, the more opportunities I had to fix problems. The more problems fixed, the less problems I could potentially run into on test day if I ran into a similar question/topic.

The only aspect that should be celebrated or frowned upon are similar questions that you've studied before/have seen and now on this second time: 1) you recognized the similarity or not, 2) you got it right or not, 3) you skipped it or not (strategically) 4) you got it correct again, but faster or not. Situations like this are a direct measure of improvement and they are key to watch out for.

This community has helped me so much. So if anyone wants to chat about anything LSAT related, has any questions, or simply wants to vent, please feel free to DM me :D

What a journey this one was and I would not be in this position without 7Sage and the community.

Thank. You.

I know we can bring regular pencils to the exam (it's printed on the admission ticket) but can we also bring pens? Or is LSAC providing pens?

For the stylus/pen they are providing - is it a decent pen? As in, will we want to use it over the pencils so we don't have to go back and forth?

Also, just to confirm - we still can't bring mechanical pencils right??

I did PT 78 today (spoiler alert?)

I got stuck on a few LR questions I did not realize were difficult until I spent 2 minutes on them (I read the stimulus slow, but I only realize a qusetion is difficult once I get through all the ACs).

I also noticed the last RC passage was easiest, but was put off by the "science" topic (and I saw it had very few questions, so I figured it would be hard). I spent too much time on the second passage, which I found the hardest since I had no clue what was going on

I was hesitant to start the last passage because I did not want to be "jumping" aorund, or what if the last passage was harder? Did I waste all this time?

So, this sounds like a stupid question but -- how do you know when to skip? How do I know if an LR question will be easy or hard? Sometimes what looks easiest, given the stimulus and the passage, turns out to be the hardest, and vice versa.

I know when to skip games (think PT 77 game 3 lol yikes)

Does anyone have any advice on this issue? :)

they are killing my score!!!

I've been doing tiny summary of each paragraph. is this still a good idea?

HELP

Would be possible for the site to display the target time for each game in the analytics summary after each problem set or PT rather than just on the explanation page for each game? No worries if not, I just thought I'd ask!

I have trouble recognizing these sentences in the LG sections I know they are fallacies, but how do I know a sentence is a sufficient not a necessary condition or vice versus ?

Hi Everyone!

I have a couple of questions about the digital LSAT.

I know there are a few differences between 7Sage's platform and the actual test, but I looked at the digital tester provided by LSAC and noticed that you can select your section and the number of questions per section appear at the bottom. I am doubtful that this will be the format for the actual test (seems too good to be true), but does anyone have any insight about this?

Also, how much time is there between sections (not including the break, of course)? I am thinking it's somewhere between 5-10 seconds?

Lastly, is anyone aware of any restrictions pertaining to medications that can be brought into the testing room?

Thanks in advance!!

Hi everyone,

I have lately been feeling really defeated and frustrated with this exam and the whole journey to law school. This is my second time applying to law school (Candian law schools). I wrote the LSAT last January and got a really low score. I started studying again mid July. I have started to hit 155 untimed. My aim is 160- 165. Even a 160 would do at this point. I have realized that you need to be patient with this exam. I have been wrong to expect immediate results. That has been my biggest mistakes. This time I am taking as much time as I need to study the concepts, and learn them well. I am also focusing on my weaknesses. I feel that will really help with increasing my score. My LG score ranges 18-22, but I struggle with timings. I am scoring 13-17 on the LR. In that area I keep getting the same type of questions wrong (which is good because then I just can practice on my weaknesses).

My question is,

Am I being realistic with thinking that I can go from 155 untimed to 160-165 timed by January. I do not want to make the same mistake and assume that I will be ready by a certain time. The reason why January is an option because majority of the schools I applied to accept that as the last score. Only 2-3 schools accept the February score, which is also an option). But that would be super late in the cycle, but would get me a good score.

Any advice would be appreciated. Really losing hope at this point :(

Thanks.

What do I do?

What do I study?

I was contemplating doing a couple of PTs.

Or should I do one full one, BR it, and then do drills? Make my own PT with the hardest questions i can find?

I am almost out of fresh PTs (have like 5 or 6 left)

I am scoring early 160s, I am seriously hoping for 160+ this week

I have been studying full time since I joined, and really want this to be the last time I write

What do you think?

Good luck to everyone writing!

Any tips would be nice :)

Hi. I purchased LSAT Starter pack and bunch of extensions, Prep tests 83, prep tests 85-88.

In this post,

https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/21740/i-bought-a-starter-pack-with-bunch-of-extension-would-i-still-see-pt-88-lg-with-this-condition

In this previous post which I tagged, a 7 Sage administrator ( I am assuming) responded that I will STILL have LG explanation video access for the Preptests I purchased and paid for even after November 15th.

Right now, I do not have an access to PT 88 and any other Preptest i purchased 's LG explanation videos, even though i paid and purchased the right to access. So I hope some fixing can be done.

I'm an international application and i'm working on my why x essays.

Would it be an disadvantage for me if i write about wanting to work for the government of my country (Korea) after i graduate their law school?

I'm thinking of working for the ministry of foreign affairs after graduating.

Thanks!

Just needed to share this with someone, it has been incredibly hard to miss out on so many social events, be isolated from people and not be as healthy (neglecting gym and nutrition) as a result of studying so much! I was feeling really down today, but took a PT anyway.

The RC section was absolutely brutal, I flagged like 9 questions and was sure this was gonna be my worst score yet. I guess this also serves as a valuable lesson to never give up and not try and guess how you did mid-test, just move on and persevere!

Actually slightly upset with myself for letting myself get demotivated by the RC section. I may have been able to do way better on the last LR section if I didn't get down on myself. But either way I got a 175 and I am quite proud and excited!

seriously i always do this and its such a stupid reason to loose marks... any tips? Am i just being too rushed or lazy or not bothering to understand a rule. i always tell myself i will pay more attention next time but end up mixing things up...

The videos are down from youtube but they are still available on the 7sage website for free. Is this supposed to be the case? You don't have to pay for a course to get these explanations.