Hello,

Im just a little confused about necessary assumptions when using the negation test. We've been taught that if the answer choice, negated, would make the arguement not make sense or destroy it. My confusion is to me the argument is the premise and the conclusion. So am i looking for it to destroy the support between the conclusion and the argument or am i just looking for it to make the conclusion less likely to happen? Or am I looking for an assumption that would not support the relationship between the conclusion and the premises?

Hi guys.

I have been foolproofing LGs for a while now and I am a little more than halfway through (have foolproofed ~20 LG PTs so around 80 individual ones). While I have definitely improved my diagramming skills and in/out logic, I still freeze, make dumb mistakes, and go over the target time on most new games. Like for example, today I did a moderately hard one and got really excited when I hit the time, but then went 3 minutes over on two other easy games. It just doesn’t make any sense.

Is it normal that I’m still struggling with these things? Games destroyed me in the September exam (granted, I took the test knowing I wasn’t fully prepared). It’s just frustrating to still be struggling halfway through foolproofing and seeing everyone else (at least on this site) say it is the easiest section to improve.

Any advise would be greatly appreciated!

(Btw I typed this on my phone so please ignore any typos)

Hi guys,

I am taking the LSAT on January 13th, which is in two months. I have been hitting around the 155-156 range untimed. My diagnostic was a pretty low score, so this is a huge jump for me. I wanted to score around 165, a 160 would do as well. I am not doing anything else other than the LSAT. I have been thinking about drilling practice tests and just focusing on my weaknesses for the next few weeks. In the last month, I was planning to take full timed practice tests, 2-3 every week. I was wondering if this would be a good approach or should I try something different ?. Also, is increasing an untimed score of 155 to 160-165 timed doable in the next two months ?

Thank You

i am less than two weeks away from my test and i am declining in score. I went from 162, 163, 162, 166, 163(tests in the 60's), and now 158(PT 86). I am starting to see maybe my work was a waste of time

After a year of studying starting with a 139 diag and 15 PTs, I finally broke into the 160s and dropped a 163 on PT 50. Thank god haha. Finally starting to put this all together; took me long enough. Thought I’d share my recent glorious victory.

Happy studying to y’all!

I remember there was a tab for webinar videos. I can’t find that anymore. Does anyone know how we can access the webinar videos? Thanks.

I got this question right during my PT and wrong during BR. I kept fluctuating between A (the right answer) and D (the wrong answer). I totally get why A is right but I do not understand why D is wrong. SOS.

Many thanks.

Hi there,

I was wondering if it might be worth it take another (last) LSAT sitting in an attempt to finally break into the 170's and potentially score my scholarship money? Or would it be too late in the cycle to even have that?

Hey everyone, I was wondering what y'all think about trying to practice for the writing sample. I need to complete mine within the next week - but is it worth it to try it with a different prompt? The only prompt I can find is from June 2007, and I've read enough examples from that one that I think it would help little to write my own essay. Does anyone know where I can find another writing sample topic from other administrations? Or should I not worry and just sit down and take it?

Thanks in advance for the help.

This flaw sucks. I've been trying to understand the logical gap, but it's so subtle. I've made up this example to try and explain how I think it works (because J.Y.'s example in the core curriculum made no sense to me) but I'm still confused.

Example: A cat is a small predator that murders its victims for food and pleasure. Anna knows that Brenda owns a cat named Voldemort. Therefore, Anna knows that Voldemort is a small predator that murders its victims for food and pleasure.

What I think is going on here is that flaws of this type are exploiting a subtle assumption we make about what something is or may be and what the subject believes to be true. In the context of this example, maybe Anna thinks Voldemort is a fluffy tabby that purrs when cuddled and eats food dished out of a can (i.e. V is not a murderer). So, if this were a stimulus, the correct answer choice would be something like: "Fails to distinguish between Voldemort being a small predator and Anna's believing Voldemort to be a small predator..."

Is this right or am I totally off the mark?

Per Reddit quoting a press release from LSAC, now test scores will be submitted to law schools before the writing sample gets done.

Hello fellow 7Sagers,

I am currently in the core curriculum on Intro to Logic and I am also using the Loophole. Both are amazing but I am hung up on "is required". In the Loophole the example is, "One man in his time is required to play many parts". In the book, the conditional is

M ->PMP or /PMP -> /M. However, in the core curriculum the example is, "Practice is required to be a skilled artist". Thus,

sa → P or /P → /sa. My confusion is in the necessary and sufficiency so could someone explain to me in more detail how to diagram "is required" correctly? Because in the Loophole required is considered a necessary condition indicator.

I've been noticing a trend over the last 10 reading comprehension problem sets, particularly the ones labeled "hard" RC. During Blind Review, I've been consistently changing correct answers to incorrect answers (i.e. my post-BR score is usually worse). This happens particularly with questions where I've used "intuition" (that-answer-just-feels-better) as I'm running out of time. What's worse, this phenomenon has worsened during the "hard" RC, where I second-guess my answers (hmmm ... this is a hard set so the answer couldn't possibly be this straightforward). This is incredibly frustrating ... it feels like I'm training my brain to not trust itself. Any suggestions on what to do? I never had this problem with any LR/LG questions (in fact, I had never changed a correct answer to an incorrect answer during BR before starting RC).

Hi everyone, I'm consistently getting hammered on flaw questions and though I've been trying to drill them for the past week, I'm not seeing much improvement. Any improvement strategies or advice you have would be really helpful.

I have daydreams of being some kind of a surgeon/lawyer, but am unsure how feasible such a career would be. Has anyone read a case study of someone who has done both? Or is anyone actively pursuing a joint MD/JD, especially with interests in pursuing a career in medicine outside of medical law?

I can only imagine the expenses without tons of scholarships.

Hi all,

Anyone know if the LSAT-India PTs are similar in flavor, level of difficulty, etc., to the US-based LSAC PTs? Please humor my ignorance. I know nothing about these. All thoughts are welcome.

For anyone else interested, LSAT-India PTs 1-6 are available for free here: https://www.reddit.com/r/LSATprep/comments/agimp6/links_to_7_free_pdfs_of_real_official_lsat/

Everything in my application is on track to be ready in the next couple of weeks, except for obviously my LSAT, which I won't have the score for until I assume early Feb...

I'm applying in Feb with (most likely) above median stats, and possibly above 75th at some of the T14, buuut I realize it's late. Am I going to face imminent rejection? Is it cool to shoot my shot out here? Thanks guys!

For this question: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-72-section-2-question-02/

Why can’t B be correct? The stimulus just says toxic levels, then collapse, suggesting toxic levels are what caused the collapse, but it could just be a coincidence. Something else unrelated to the toxic levels is the cause of collapse (aka would have collapsed sooner or later even without use of irrigation). And so if we expose this gap, can’t we say well if it’s not the irrigation that caused the collapse how can we say irrigation would cause collapse in modern society?

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I have had a problem set I compiled disappear for the third time today after making one ready to go for this morning. Super frustrating, because I took a while to carefully select question topics and difficulties. Is there any way to get it back? Also is there a way to sort problem sets by new?

Can writing the optional essays improve my chances in getting accepted? Some of the law schools I'm applying to I have the borderline gpa and I’m still waiting for my October lsat score.

I apologize to add to the frantic posts that begin as it nears the exam.

But I am taking my first actual test on the 25th, and I am consistently getting -19 with it pretty evenly spread on every PT I've taken since I finished the CC.

I am drilling every LG every day and hoping to get it down to -1/0 before the exam, but even with slight improvements on each test in LG, I go down in LR/RC.

Obviously cannot predict the future, but, does anyone have any tips 2 weeks out? Or am I better off relaxing(/accepting) at this point given the short amount of time?

Thank you in advance.

I have 1 official score from 2017 (should not have even bothered with the test)

and I have 1 cancel from the Jan 2018 exam. I cancelled after feeling like I bombed the test. Does this second attempt count as a "take"

I'm scheduled to take the exam in 2 weeks, which would be my third attempt, but only my second official score. I'm worried because I'm open to taking the January 2020 test in the event that I do not reach my goal score in November, and I don't want too many "attempts" to ruin my chances of getting into law school. Any thoughts?

Is anyone else unable to see the total time elapsed on a LG? Its showing the time per problem but usually there's an option where if you click on one of the timed questions you can see how much time the game setup and all the questions took. #help

Hi everyone! So JY in his LG videos does the general questions first but how can we do that in digital now? Do you all recommend skipping ahead in questions one by one for each game and seeing what are the general questions and answer them first?

Thank you!

OK this one is truly doing my head in...I original selected B but flagged it, and when reviewing I changed to C. Correct answer, tho is D and I have NO IDEA WHY. I'm generally kind of bad at the disagreement questions, but TBH I felt pretty good about C and cannot for the life of me understand why D is a better answer than C. Help!

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