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I have been working on my law school application materials to apply ED. If I am set on attending a particular school, would it be wise to personalize all of the recommendations and essays to the school (UGA)? Also, how soon should I schedule a tour of the school after I apply?

Thank you so much!

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I know selection games are not very common on recent LSAT tests, unless they're hybrid games, but I wanted to get some practice with them. If possible, can anyone tell me where I can find a list of each selection game present in all previous LSAT practice tests? Or what should I use to get the best practice on selection games?

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I am taking the July LSAT. I just took PT 84 and my score dropped significantly. I went from scoring up to 175 to mid 160s. RC was my worst section. I had RC down to -3 or less but this was just bad. Don't know how to feel about this.

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Hello, all

I have my test scheduled for November 2018 and plan to apply December 2018

The schools I want to apply to have acceptance score averages of about 156.

At the moment I have only taken like 4 PT's and my scores ranged from 141-144. My BR has ranged from 149-151.

I obviously have not taken enough practice tests and I wonder if anyone can tell me straight up if I will have enough time to at least bump up my score to 150 by November. Also since i have taken only 4 PT's, is that like an accurate measure as to what I can aspire to score in the coming months?

Also how many PT's should I be doing a week?

Gracias!

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Monday, Jul 16, 2018

One week!

What is everyone doing to prepare? Would anyone recommend taking a PT on Sunday (the day before) or leaving that day to clear your head?

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Hey all!

Just wanted to let everyone know in advance that we will be having our discussion this week on Friday July 20th. The reason being is that JY himself, our mighty leader, is leading BR calls for PT84 (which was the June 2018 LSAT) this week from Monday to Thursday. So for those who took the June LSAT, or will be taking July in a couple of weeks, this is a great chance to BR with JY. Those who attended the RC webinar calls back in May know what an opportunity this is. Therefore, we will have our call on Friday to accomodate those who may want to attend. Sorry for the inconvenience! P.S. Did you see how I made an argument here with a conclusion and premises? It's not valid so it involves assumptions so don't come @ me in the comments.

Here's the link to the discussion https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/16810/pt84-br-sessions-with-j-y-lr-sections-only

Anyways, I hope you guys enjoy this EXTRA day to BR/drills/take a day off.

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I've noticed that there are some LR question stems I can't identify. Can anyone help me out?

-Which one of the following principles is best illustrated by the study described above?

-Each of the following assignments of computer programmers is consistent both with the principle expressed by Vanessa and with the principle expressed by Jo EXCEPT:

-Which one of the following principles, if valid, most helps to justify the consumer advocate's argumentation?

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I took PT 63 yesterday and scored on the low-end of my PT average (158). This is the same score that I got on my last 2 practice tests and I am starting to worry that there is something seriously wrong with my method. While my LG scores have increased from a -7 to a -1 in this time, my RC has gone down from a -9 to a -12, and my LR per section has gone down from a -6 to a -8.

To address my problems with RC, these last two weeks I did around 20 sections of RC, timed. Toward the end, I felt more confident in the section than I did two weeks earlier (-12). During practice, even for 5/5 diff passages I was able to swing a -1 in around 8 minutes. Come PT 63, no such luck. I struggled through the first two passages and then hit a tough science passage which ate up the rest of my time. I didn't even get a chance to read the last passage. All in all, the passages seemed more challenging than the ones that I had done previously - the structure was less straightforward and the arguments were more well-hidden in the superfluous-word-weeds. Is this just a factor of the increased difficulty of RC in more recent tests? How am I supposed to prep for this level of difficulty without wasting new material? Should I start drilling by section in RC? I am just really lost for the method of how to improve here. I know that RC is challenging to improve but it doesn't seem out of reach for me to improve from an average of -10 to a -5 for example.

Secondly, I also drilled all of the question types that I had a problem with in LR between each test. I watched my video of the latest PT and gained some valuable insight into where I was wasting time. I felt great about PT 63's LR sections actually but I totally bombed them. On the second LR section in the test I scored a -11 which is the lowest I've ever gotten in a LR section - even worse than my diagnostic a year ago. I don't feel hopeless, but it seems crazy to me that I can feel like I did well on a section and get a -11. Does drilling by question type actually work? If so, where does the emphasis need to be? Is it in the BR of those question types, or is it just by understanding the theory and then applying it quickly? Should I switch to section drilling for LR?

I realize there are more questions in here than one person really wants to answer, but if you have any insight into this type of score plateau I'd love to hear about it. If you feel that you have a good answer to any one of these questions please let me know :)

PS: I was wondering if consulting a tutor would be worth my time, maybe some of you can throw in your two cents about the tutors for 7sage if you worked with them and if they were worth the money.

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I came across these two questions while I was practicing rules translation in sequencing LG and I can't seem to understand what "disallowing/allowing ties" mean:

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I know both seem the same when translated but I want to know what ties really mean in game rules and if they make any difference in translation.

I also did not get another example that I came through in translation:

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Why isn't it R... ___G? isn't the red card the one behind the grey car which means comes before?

I would appreciate any help with these three examples.

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So I recently found a way of printing the questions from the question bank. While it is impractical and takes a little while it is worth while for reading comp questions. I use the Snipping Tool. This allows me to snip around the reading comp passage, copy it and then I paste it onto a word document. Then I do the same for all the questions that come with that passage. I am then able to re-adjust the passage and questions and then I simply print it out. Hopefully the LSAT ninjas don't come for me.

Admin edit: You can now print questions in PDF from the Question Bank:

https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/18378/new-feature-print-pdfs-of-custom-drills-from-the-question-bank

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I'm in the process of fool proofing the games from PT 1-35. I'm only on PT 3 but I was wondering if it's ok to watch the explanation first, which is what I've been doing. Once I get more experience I plan to attempt the games on my own but for now is it ok to watch the explanation first? I've been averaging about 2 - 4 tries to foolproof a single game.

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Hi friends!

Trying to stay cheerful after my trainwreck of a practice test today. I’m wondering if any other folks saw a drop between their diagnostic test score abd their first practice test score (after completing the core curriculum).

I’m planning on taking the September test, but today’s results have me freaked out about whether I’ll be scoring where I want to be by test day.

I didn’t feel as alert/“on” during today’s test as I did for the diagnostic. I also think I was trying too hard to use things I learned from the CC that it slowed me down further. Timing was definitely a big issue as I didn’t finish any of the sections.

Words of wisdom/encouragement to help keep the hope alive will be greatly appreciated. :(

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    Hey all,

    When I skip a question with the intention of coming back to it after, I lightly circle the question number on the answer sheet. If I don't do this, find myself wasting a bit of time when going back for bubbling in round 2 as I can't see instantly where the 'missing' bubble is. I know it says 'make no stray marks' on top of the AC sheet, but was just wondering if this would interfere with the scantron, or the proctor would pull me up on it?

    Thanks

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    Hi all.

    I'm an international student studying for LSAT. My English is not perfect so please excuse me for my awkward writing.

    So I received my June LSAT score this week: 161. Not too bad for my first test ever, but I can't help but feel a little disappointed because I've dedicated the past 3 months to studying full-time for the test. I have another 3 months ahead of me before I take the October LSAT in Asia.

    In retrospect, I believe I've overworked myself these past months by cramming 3 PTs into a week's study schedule. I would take a full 4-section PT, BR, check the answers, watch video explanations for the Qs I got wrong, and move on. It was a tough task indeed, and it really took a toll on me that I was feeling too exhausted to go on at the end of each week.

    A friend of mine who also studies for LSAT suggested a different approach: doing PTs one section at a time instead of doing 4 sections all at once. According to this method, I would complete one section, BR, check the answers, analyze the Qs I got wrong, and move on to the next section. Kind of like drilling for each section I'd say, only this time it's proctored.

    She says it worked wonders for her performance but I'm not so convinced myself. My doubts are twofold. First, I might get too comfortable with taking PTs on the section-by-section basis that I would fare worse on an actual test. Second, I have a feeling that doing so would be waste of the more recent PTs I've kept pristine up to this moment; I think making best use of them is by taking them under the same (timed) conditions equal to a real test.

    What do you think? Would you recommend trying this method? Thanks to all in advance for sharing your thoughts.

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    Hi everyone, I'm scheduled to visit two schools in southern California next month. I'm leaning towards business casual (slacks and either polo or long sleeved button up), but want to make sure I'm not committing a fashion faux pas. I feel like a suit / tie is too much and my normal socal uniform of berks, board shorts, and tee shirt may be a bit casual.

    Thoughts? and thanks!

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    Saturday, Jul 14, 2018

    FIU

    Anyone have an opinion on this Florida law school. I’m considering whether I accept admission. Last was 150. Pro vs cons any welcome. Gpa of 3.65

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    Hi! Basically my question is: is ultimate plus worth it if I’m gonna only use it for two months (I test in September)?? Or will a cheaper plan get the job done as well? I want to score a 170, and I already bought every preptest up to 83, so I’m not concerned about having less not enough preptests if I go with a lower plan...what do you all think based on your experience? So I’m kinda in a unique situation, I’m wondering if 7Sage would be worth it for me. I want to retake the test in September. So previously i studied for the LSAT for a year and took it this past June and got a 163... i missed 1 on LG, 9 on RC, and 5 on the first LR and 4 on the second LR. in the practice tests leading up to this score (79-82) I received a 165 four times in a row. I had also received a 169 ond my lowest score in the two months leading up to the test was a 162. The way I studied was I worked through all of the powerscore bibles and then took a practice test every weekend starting with the 40s, and I used all the practice tests lower than 40s as practice questions. Honestly this was a dumb choice because I’ve used every single preptest there is and I don’t have any fresh ones left to practice. I’m wondering if it’s worth it to buy lsat ultimate ($749 for 18 months) when I’m only gonna have 2 months to use it? Also Im thinking about just buying the lowest level, but I’m afraid that the questions mgt be too easy? What was your all’s experience. Also I want to score 170+ and I was wondering if you guys think ultimate+ package would be the best choice for me or if 170+ is just unattainable at this point. I noticed ultimate plus is the only package hat offers hard questions, and I’m worries about buying the basic package because I feel like I already have a good grasp on the basics and I need to focus on the hard questions. Also I’ve already bought every preptest available, so I’m a little hesitant to spend more money. But if it’s truly really worth it to buy the ultimate plus at this point, I’m 100% down. Also if you guys have any success stories, I would love to hear them!

    Thanks!

    [Admin note: Ultimate+ includes 12 months now]

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