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Hi all:

So I'm currently experience a bit of a loss of a sense of direction, post (completing) the core curriculum. I finished about a month ago and immediately began fullproofing afterwards. I definitely think it's helped a lot, especially with getting me more comfortable with LG (my weakest section). I took a break from FP a week ago in order to dodge burnout, and began reviewing LR lessons from CC in preparation for PT'ing. I'm planning to officially kickoff PT'ing this weekend. In your experience, would you say where I'm headed is a good idea, or, would you recommend I do otherwise---if so, please share. (*Note: I haven't taken any PT since completing the CC and FPing for ~ a month)

Thanks in advance!

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Hello Everyone,

I realize when I read that my mind is on everything else but what I'm reading. I would read the RC passage and then noticed that I picked up on bits and pieces. How do you all combat that?

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Fellow 7Sagers,

I’m in a rut and would appreciate any advice/input on how to best go about studying for the LSAT as well as deal with other issues (see below).

Plan of attack

I thought that if I started studying for the June LSAT in February I would be fine . . . until I actually started studying for the LSAT. My original plan was to start with the Trainer in February, take a face to face course that would lead up to the exam, take the exam, score in the high 160’s and be on my way to the school of my dreams . . . I clearly didn’t know what I was doing or thinking.

I’ve since adjusted my plan of attack to something more realistic. Currently, I am holding off on finishing the 7Sage CC since I started the in-person course, but plan on revisiting and finishing after I take the exam in June. I was hoping to start doing PT’s with the September group, but think that I should join the December or February group instead. Thoughts?

Diagnostic test

I started studying with the LSAT Trainer a few months ago, took a diagnostic test under non-test day conditions (in a coffee shop w/ distractions) and finished each section within the allotted time. I did poorly, but I finished. I stopped using the trainer and switched to 7Sage a few days later and started the CC. All was great, but I stopped at weakening arguments and decided to take a break since the in-person prep course I signed up for was two weeks away. I started the course this past Saturday, took another diagnostic under test day conditions, and did horrible! Although some of the sections were easier to understand because I covered them in the CC, I did not finish all the sections in time, did not guess on questions I wasn’t able to get to, and found myself overanalyzing everything. J.Y. said something early in the course that really stuck with me and it is that honesty is the best policy if you want to perform well on this test. I figured that it was in my best interest to save the guessing for test day, review only what I did answer, and learn what I don’t know. Is that the right approach?

Bad days

Who do you vent to after a bad PT or study session, excluding 7Sagers, and how do you get back on track mentally? Is there an LSAT emotional support group that I should know about?! Lol

Thank you all in advance for your willingness to help.

Best,

K

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Does anyone here know any good tricks/skills I should develop as a tactile learner for the LSAT? I know I need to take a lot of breaks, and honestly resetting often helps me focus on my objective, however, besides that and flash cards, which I still have to memorize, are there any other tricks you all recommend?

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Hi everyone -

I am waiting to hear back from one school. The status of my application has been listed as "decision pending" since March 11th. This seems like a long time (maybe it is not - I am also getting anxious), and I am wondering if I don't hear back by the end of this week if it is appropriate to send a LOCI? I have read conflicting advice on sending a LOCI to schools that you have not heard back from. Any input is appreciated. Thanks!

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Hi guys,

Can anyone explain why the answer choice (c) is the correct answer? It's hard to see why this has to be the case when logs already have each ring representing one year. With this fact, it's already possible to know how old these logs are so why do we need this information?

Thank you!

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So I learned not long ago that LSAC counts all the grades you have ever received. I spent two years at a CC and then transferred over to an university. During my time at the CC, I didn't do so well due to familial circumstances (3.2). Three years later, I am graduating in June with two majors and a minor at a 3.9 GPA. If LSAC counts everything, I'm very afraid that lowers my GPA down to a 3.6 or 3.7 and I'm feeling awful right now knowing that my chances at T10 have been basically dashed due to that rough time in my life. Does anyone have any advice to share?

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After about 1.5 years of studying and working FT, I've managed to get average of -3/-4 in every section, consistently. (RC :-4, LR: -3/-4, LG: -4). Averaging around 166/167 and hoping to hit 170 by July. I fool proofed games from PT 15-35 and have taken PT36 - PT 83 at least once each. I don't really believe PT 15 and below hold much value, as the test has changed so drastically since 1995, but I may be mistaken. What is the best plan of attack for increasing my score by those last few points? Any advice and recommendations are greatly appreciated!

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I applied this year but did not get the results/LSAT score I was hoping for. I was thinking about quitting my job so I can full focus on the LSAT. I currently work at a consulting firm focused on litigation and the hours and the amount of networking/office politics is exhausting.

My question is, if I quit, would that look terrible on my resume when I reapply? I was here for two years, and was at a finance firm for a year before that. What do yall think? Am I overthinking?

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So I recently got approved for extra time on the LSAT, and I was wondering if anyone with 50% extra time is willing to private message me tips on how they endure to the end. I took a 5 section practice test 2 days ago and only made it half way through section 4 before my brain completely died on me. By that time 4 hours had passed, and I honestly couldn't take anymore. I think I got an ok score for a first attempt under the new time conditions, but I know I have at least another 8 points in me. Plus since I have to do the experimental section, I cant take the chance of not making it to section 5. Any advice would be appreciated!

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Hello 7sagers,

I am currently waitlisted at my first choice law school. I visited the school in March and met with the assistant director of admission. She and I had a great conversation when I visited the school- I told her why I wanted to go to this law school and that I took the lsat a couple times to get a score that satisfied the school's requirement etc. She told me to keep in touch, and we've emailed each other maybe three times since.

I had already sent her my LOCI in April when I found out about being on the wait list, and she told me via email that the school will start reaching out to the wait list candidates in early May. I'm a little nervous I haven't heard anything yet.

Should I send her another LOCI sometime this week? I don't know if sending another LOCI would be too much? My lsat score meets the school's range, but my GPA is slightly lower (GPA- 3.3). I wanted to explain this situation to the school?

I worked as a TV reporter a week after graduating from college. I spent majority of my junior and my senior years of college working with various tv stations to work on my audition reels because I thought working as a TV journalist was the only thing I wanted to do. I also worked part time jobs to pay for books, etc in my junior year. So my focus in college was to obtain multiple, various internships instead of trying to make all A's in my classes (but now, I wish I had).

I'm wondering if I should send an additional short LOCI (one page) explaining my GPA? The assistant director told me in March when I visited that my LSAT score met the school's range but that my GPA was slightly low. So, I'm thinking my GPA is probably the big reason why I was put on the wait list, and that's why I wanted to see if it might be a good idea to send an additional LOCI sometime this week? Or, is this sending a second LOCI too much?

Thank you all for your time reading this. I'm getting anxious, and I wanted to seek your advice.

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I really blew a PT this week. Like.. 6 points off bad. But my BR is staying high. Does this seem to happen to others very often? For reference, it has been a really rough week between school and finals posting, car issues, etc. Thinking maybe I should forget it since the BR was still great and move on... Thoughts?

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Hey Everyone!

I just walked over to my study desk and had one of those moments where looking at it made me feel so happy. I just couldn't resist sharing a pic and seeing what you all think!

I love how the herbs smell in the morning (especially the mint) and the aloe vera plant just gives me these healthy vibes.

I would love to know how you all have your study desk set up.

Here it is! : )

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Those are the five diagnostics I've taken. I've got about 5 weeks.

I'm pretty consistently about -5 on RC, when I got a 169 I got -1 and -2 on LR, on the others that has fluctuated around -3/-4.

LG usually around -3 > -5.

Do you guys think I can hit 170 in five weeks?

If so, what steps do you think I should start taking?

I know I need to get my LG to -2 at most, hopefully I can do a bit better on RC, and if I can reduce my mistakes on LR to the -1/-2 that I've achieved, I think I'll be in good shape. I just can't seem to remain focused throughout the entirety of the test enough to consistently score well in EVERY section, like I do when I just do individual sections.

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How do you tackle logical reasoning statements without having to read it three to four times just to comprehend what the statement is saying? Should you read the statement first then the question or the question then the statement? Am I the only one who keeps reading it over and over again?

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I have a solid but not amazing undergrad GPA, with a double major and a lot of on-campus involvement and leadership activities. I will have 3 years of great work experience when I apply to law school this fall (client-facing, well-known consulting firm, earned a quick promotion). Will the longer amount of time between my college years and my law school applications help alleviate my less-than-impressive GPA (3.65)? Only interested in T-14. Hoping to score in the mid-170s.

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Hey all,

In every single practice test I've taken, I've had a significant difference in score in my first and second LR sections. First section I average between 5-8 wrong, second section between 1-3 wrong....there's no pattern with question type. Thoughts on why this might be happening? I don't feel like I go faster in the first section so I'm not sure that it's rushing...Thanks!

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Dear Community,

I have been a reader for a long time and owe a lot to the writing I've seen on the forums. I am signed up for June 2018 and was hoping some readers might be willing to provide opinions on my LSAT situation.

I took a full-fledged live course back in February, and have been practicing for about 1.5-2 months using 7sage and my copies of the tests in between then and now. I scored around a 161 in the middle of the live course. By fool-proofing, and practicing individual sections of RC and LR (based on question/passage type), I have been able to get to a point where I've scored 170 on two consecutive 5-section tests and feel ready to break towards an even higher score if I can lock down a perfect score on LG (both 170s had 5-6 LG wrong because of a minor setup mistake that screwed up one game, my LG skills improve with each test).

The "rub" is that while I'm happy with my diagnostic scores on 5-section LSATs, I really haven't taken that many full-length tests. I think I've taken maybe 7 total since starting the full live course. While I'm happy to rely on timed sections and weekly full tests for practice, the hunch I really want to test is whether there is a large benefit to be gained from taking, say, 15 more tests rather than 3 or 4 more, which is all I'll have time for with my schedule if I take June.

Basically, my options are as follows:

--take in June, have time for 3-4 more full tests, have time for 10-20 timed sections of LG plus other practice (or more tests if I can pull off taking a test after work — that is a full work day and then 3.25 hours of LSAT).

-delay to July or September, have time for 15+ additional full tests

Obviously, no one will ever turn down additional time. I fully understand the argument that "there is no reason to not take more time." My goal is to apply in the fall no later than immediately after the September test, so basically I have June, July and September. I won't be taking the test later than that unless for whatever reason I test way below what I am practicing at.

The one hunch I have is that even if full tests don't necessarily increase one's score, they do increase the chances that one is able to achieve their practice scores on test day. That is the worry that I have about skimping on tests.

Thanks, ya'll.

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The correct answer is A. I see why it is correct but I wonder if this answer choice makes an additional assumption that is not explicitly stated.

(A) says "failure to prove a claim"

We're only told that "these studies... seriously flawed in their methodology." We aren't explicitly told that therefore this experiment failed to prove the claim. Aren't we making an additional assumption that flawed methodology = failed to prove claim? Or even more, we're assuming that these independent scientists were can actually be trusted?

I can see why B, C, D, and E are incorrect. But aren't we making additional assumptions for (A)?

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https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-38-section-1-question-23/

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