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This might sound messed up to be potentially taking away housing from someone else if I ultimately decide to go to a diff school..

The school I was accepted to is likely where I will end up going unless a miracle happens and I get into a reach school. The housing form just asks for your student ID which I have, but the only form available online is for last year. Can I just send it in anyways? IDK if it’s inappropriate to call and ask like “hey I’m pretty sure I want to go to your school but not 100% and I want to make sure I have housing by the time I make a decision”. It’s really difficult to find affordable and nice housing in this area. I’ve seen many students complain over the years about on campus housing being full. I don’t mind losing the $300 deposit if I end up choosing to go to a diff school

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So I took the December LSAT, and I'm not happy with my score, I want to take the February one. Any advice on how to improve? or study schedule that has worked for other people? Is it better to have a study partner or practice alone etc. ? Thank you!!

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Saturday, Dec 23, 2017

Help!

Question, I received a 143 on my lsat and the school I'm looking at 25th percentile is a 145. However, my gpa is well over their 75th percentile. I have already submitted my applications, do I ask the school to hold the application until I take February's test? Also if i retake the February test and get a higher score, do they consider that for scholarships?

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Hey all, I'm aiming on nailing the logic games concepts so deeply in my head that they become easy to me, so I'll be consistently posting on this forum with plenty of questions up until my February testing. I apologize in advance.

My question concerns the biconditionals. I am taking this example from PT26 S1G4.

Here it says "G and V do not serve on the panel in the same year" which translates to G --> /V and V --> /G (contrapositive)

Then another rule says "Either I or V serve on the panel, but not both" which translates to I --> /V and V --> /I also shown in double arrows I (--) /V.

One of them, the I and V rule was called a biconditional by the instructor which I understand as it meaning the the presence of one confirms the absence of the other...But now I'm wondering what is the difference between the first and second rule. Because right now they look the same to me, but I know there is an inherent concept. I already understand the difference between both and but not both, but I'm a little confused here - anything would be helpful.

Thank you

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Hi all, if you are reapplying for law school, do you need to pay for Credential Assembly Service again? I received a fee waiver the first time and am wondering if I need to pay for it again. Thank you!

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I scored 163, a few points below my PT average. I’m not devastated but definitely not thrilled either. I’m wanting to apply for schools like university of Minnesota and Boston college, maybe University of Washington in Seattle. Do I have a good shot? Should I lower my expectations ?

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Hi there,

I had severe test day anxiety and froze up during the test. I just got my score and its a 155. My preptests were solidly 170-174. I have a 3.98 GPA from a top college. I am applying for accommodations for my next test. Does an initial 155 ruin my chances of going to a top school (Harvard, Columbia, Stanford) if I'm able to score a 170+ with accommodations the second time around?

Thanks,

Claire

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Hi, I'm wondering when admission officers take their Christmas Break (do they have new years break too?), because I don't know if I should hand in my apps NOW or write an optional statement and send it in next week....

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Hey guys.

In short... I basically took my Dec. lsat cold...141... sucks I know.... the law school I want to go to has an evening program. A 145 would secure me.... Can I get this by Feb? with 7sage? Wanting to attend Northern Kentucky.... not a top school but it's my #1 school for a variety of reasons... my law mentor went there and it's in my state...

I had to focus time on finishing my doctoral project in leadership. Thankfully, I can breathe now and focus on the test. With my GPA and 141, the lsac calculator says I have a 50-70% chance of getting in.... I'm just not convinced....possible? I'm already signed up to retake so I don't need convincing....just curious where I would stand right now....

anyways, 7sage in a month and 1/2?

God bless my friends.

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I dreamed about this day. The day that I would receive my score & post here to give my thanks and express my joy. How badly I wish that was the case for my writing this post .... I graduated in the spring and decided not to work post graduation so I could study full time for the LSAT. Fast forward 6 months of dedicated studying and scoring in the 160's, I open up my email from LSAC to find my score, 151. To say that I am distraught is a grave understatement. I am beginning to convince myself that I simply do not have the type of intelligence that the LSAT tests. I was going to send out my applications once I received my score but now I don't even know where I should go from here. I want to go to law school more than anything. Especially, this cycle. But I don't think I have it in me to put so much of myself into something once more and get nothing in return.

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Mine is grey and I’m currently waiting. Every comment I’ve seen so far from people who have received their scores seems to suggest they did worse than their PTs and previous tests. It’s making me nervous. Did anyone feel the opposite way?

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The words to describe how i feel at this moment is tough. When i first took the lsat, i didnt study. I was confident. My score in june was 142. Not good. My score reflected my study habit.

For the past 4 months, here in 7sage, i studied, understood the concepts. Knew how to breakdown a question and choose the right answer choice, knew the logic games, reading comp., i understood why i got a 142 in june and how i can get better score because of what i learned.

To my disbelief, today, i see i scored 12 pts lower then my june score.

How? Where did i fail? Why is this fucking test so goddamn hard!?

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So, this may be the worse place to ask this, but the TLS page on this has many outdated links and information. My question is has anyone done an in class prep course? If so, how did you like it? Did you mix in 7sage info with your course If so, was that helpful? Also, any general pros and cons about in class prep specifically with powerscore or any company. Thank you!

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Saturday, Dec 23, 2017

Take a fifth time?

I have taken the LSAT 4 times so far (168,165,169 and Cancellation). I know that these are not bad scores, but as an international student with no reportable GPA, I might need a better score to get into T14. I have alreay submitted almost all applications and I wonder how badly law schools will look at fifth take?

Before the December LSAT(which I cancelled), I normally score low-170 and RC is my weakest section.

If I take the Feb LSAT, would law schools hold my application automatically?

I know that taking the LSAT five times is so unconventional, so I ask for the advice from 7 sagers.

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Hi 7sagers, I'm sad and if you are too, then you're not alone. For those who got the score they want, congratulations and I hope you are celebrating this weekend.

I've been lurking around 7sage but never posted. Figured today would be a good day to post and ask "what are my chances".

I've taken the LSAT 3x at this point. I cancelled the first 2 scores and now this third score is a 167. I've signed up for February but is a 4th retake even a good idea? I was hoping to get a 170 or higher but that didn't happen.

Softs: Graduated in three years at a top 20 university (its a public univ), 3 strong academic LOR's, student government elected, extensive extracurriculars, LGBT, and current job at Google.

What are my chances at:

  • Columbia
  • NYU
  • Georgetown
  • Cornell
  • Northwestern
  • UC Berkeley
  • UPenn
  • Thanks for any and all insight! This whole process is literally so laksdjfoiwruowjfsd

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    i am desperately looking for a 7sage tutor not overly expensive for my feb lsat i am aiming for 158-160 i have a BR of 150 and 147 before blind review. After seeing everyone receiving their score i know i can get there with the right help. I have reached out to a few 7sage tutor but no reply back yet so if you are a tutor and you see this please reach out to me as soon as possible i am on break for a week and would like to start from dec 26.

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    Hey everyone,

    I just got done with my INDIVIDUAL Georgetown interview. I thought it would be helpful if I laid out my experience so people may learn from it, or in case you have a Georgetown interview coming up soon!

    So first, in case you were wondering, it went really well for me. Like really really well. Like extraordinarily well :smile:

    Here are my "situational" takeaways:

    1. It was very informal

    You should still wear a suit, but the interview itself was not structured at all. In fact, when my interviewer walked in (after a brief banter about the ties we were wearing) he explicitly said "This interview is very informal, so don't be stressed."

    2. It was "so I could learn more about Georgetown."

    In fact he never said it was so Georgetown could learn more about me. It honestly felt more like he was selling me on Georgetown than I was selling myself to Georgetown.

    3. It was so they could make sure I was a human being.

    In fact, my interviewer explicitly said that. They want to make sure that you aren't just a great resume and numbers, but can actually be social and like, you know, talk to people :smile:

    Here are my suggestions of how to prepare:

    1. Know your resume.

    Be prepared to discuss the jobs you held and what roles you played (informally). My interviewer talked through some of the jobs I held and asked me about what my role was. He asked me about my time working on a presidential campaign, and I talked through my general responsibilities. Additionally, he asked me about my time interning for an appellate court. *He asked me about the procedure of how appellate cases were decided. I recommend that if you have any law-related experience on your resume, you should work hard to remember the specifics of what you did. Afterall, you'll be interviewing with (presumably) a lawyer and they will know the topic in depth.

    ---1a. If there are any atypical things on your resume, be prepared to discuss them.

    ----------For example, I transferred from one school to another after my freshman year. Just be able to come up with a coherent reason why you did the thing you did. If you transferred, I highly recommend you have a more compelling story than "I just didn't like my old school." You should be able to discuss at length why you did X, Y, or Z.

    2. Be a good conversationalist.

    As I said before, this interview was NOT formal. It was NOT my interviewer reading from a list of questions and jotting down notes. Instead, it was a conversation. That being said, you should be good at small talk. If they bring up their children it's not bad to ask about their age, what college they go to, etc. It's not bad to ask questions either, and you should ask questions throughout, since there is no formal "Q and A" portion of the interview. Just smile and be friendly and open, and don't be scared to go down a relevant tangent every now and again (me and my interviewer talked about felony disenfranchisement for 10ish minutes).

    3. Bring questions! AND LOTS OF THEM!

    And these don't have to be super specific questions either! Just ask what their experience was like at Georgetown, what the professors were like, what was the student community like, etc. Also as said above, just ask questions throughout the interview since there is no Q and A. The interview will be more like a conversation, and it's good if you have questions ready to be able to fill the awkward lulls and transition to new topics.

    ----3a. Ask questions about your interviewer's experience

    -----------I feel like this is just a good interviewing tip. Someone once told me "people rarely remember what you say, but they remember how you made them feel." It makes people feel good to talk about themselves, so let them :smile:

    4. Be prepared to answer soft-ball questions.

    Like your typical ones: why law? what field of law are you interested in? I wasn't explicitly asked a question about "why Georgetown?" but I'd be prepared to give that answer too. I had no hard-ball questions though. Nothing like "what was a stressful situation you were in and how did you get out of it?" type questions.

    All in all, my Georgetown interview process was really nice. Congruent with what others have said before, its very informal and felt more like they were selling me Georgetown than I was selling myself.

    If you have an individual interview, it's probably a good sign! It felt more like a gateway than a test for admission. One pre-law advisor said that among individuals who received an individual Georgetown interview, 75% are admitted. So if you got an individual interview, just sit back, relax, and be yourself! So long as, you know, "yourself" is a cool person :smile:

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    I don't even know how to react to this... my score has decreased 13 points from my pt average. I have timed myself every time and took about 30 timed pt. I took a pt one day and spent 8-10 hours on reviewing the next day. Has this ever happened to any of you? Also, please give me some advice on what is the best road to take.

    #christmasruined

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    I took the December LSAT and scored a 153. My scores had been averaging out at around 155-157, so I scored a bit lower than I would have hoped. However, I have an undergraduate GPA of 3.85+ in sociology (concentration of law) with a forensic sciences minor. I graduated in my program with distinction, and I am certain I will have glowing letters of recommendation at my disposal (my undergraduate academic advisor adored me and would be willing to say nothing but the best about me, I had a foreign language professor for 4 semesters straight in a course with section sizes of no larger than 15 students who I had established an intimate relationship with and who would do the same, I had a course on religion in which I had the second highest score of anyone in the course; the professor actually emailed me at the conclusion of the semester to congratulate me on a job well done, to inform me that I was only .37% away from the highest score, and to simply articulate that I was a pleasure to have in class, and so on).

    My top school choice is Notre Dame, but it is quite competitive (even the 25th percentile LSAT score for the past incoming class is several points higher than I scored). However, I AM above the typical GPA 75th percentile.

    I was wondering if a few other factors may play a strong enough role in my application to tilt the odds more favorably (and if they are points that I should even shed light on in my application):

  • I am a South Bend native. Anyone from the area knows that Notre Dame runs in the blood of those who are from the area, so I plan to write about this in the "Why Notre Dame?" section of the application.
  • I am a racial minority. I'm unsure if Notre Dame is actively seeking to diversify their JD program. Would this have any influence in the admissions' decision?
  • I received a full-ride "upcoming leader" scholarship in undergrad.
  • I have overcome a pretty tremendous amount of adversity in pursing an education (for example, I have a drug-addicted relative who has negatively affected my family life in a HUGE way which I've had deal with while attending high school and undergrad, my father is an uneducated laborer from a foreign country, my mother has a crippling health condition that has forced her to live on disability for the past 10 years, I received zero financial contribution from any family during undergrad and so I was entirely self-supported, among other things)
  • I have two health conditions (one physical, and one cognitive) that I believe could create a fairly strong case for me receiving accommodated testing. However, I decided to forego testing accommodations and still scored slightly above average. Would writing in my application that my LSAT score isn't entirely indicative of my aptitude for law school be a reasonable and/or advisable thing to do?
  • In short, I am wondering if it is inconceivable for ND to admit me given my undergraduate GPA, my LSAT score, and any of the other five aforementioned criteria. Opinions are greatly appreciated

    Thank you.

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