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I improved my LSAT score from the September test to the December test by 4 points. I am now taking the February test to try and improve my chances of better scholarships and a few schools median score are only a few points away. I have reviewed my test from December and I missed the same type of questions as I did last time. The break down of the questions missed are as follows:

Assumption- 9

Strengthen- 4

MBT- 3

Parallel- 4 (Honestly, I didn't try on these questions because I see them as time eaters)

Flaw- 3

Paradox- 1

I am wondering what I am missing with the assumption questions. I struggled during my prep before this test. I just could not understand how to answer the questions.

Also, does anyone believe I am making a mistake to take the test again?

Hey yall, im back!!

Just wanna make sure im understanding AC E

[E] says that: "an increase in demand for consumer product is compatible with an increase in demand for a competing product."

Here goes my thought process:

Since the price for domestic wine dropped, people started buying tons of it and it was sold out. Since there was no domestic wine left,people started buying the imported wine, this lead to an increase in sales of imported wine. Thoughts?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-52-section-3-question-22/

So I'm a bit confused by this section of Cornell's application. No one influenced me to apply to Cornell (except secretly Andy from the office...) but it is a mandatory part of the application with a little * and all.

Now I'm pretty sure all I have to do is write something like: N/A or Not applicable here.

What I'm stuck on is if I should maybe write more about my decision to apply to the school here instead? This sounds wrong, but I'd like to hear your thoughts.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/b04fd4704fcc9b5602e8c1999cae133f/tenor.gif?itemid=5368207

I know my LR question types and strategy for them pretty well, but when i do PT LR sections i screw so many up! I often don't get to finish the last few questions either. Now the interesting part is that upon blind review im able to get the vast majority of these questions right, without taking forever. It's as if my brain doesnt fully abrosb what its reading when im doing tests!

If you have experienced something like this, please enlighten me on how you overcame it!

Hi Friends!

I am hoping for some advice.

My situation: I am a college senior who, due to unforeseen circumstances, only completed 1/2 of the CC last summer and hasn't looked at 7sage since September. Admittedly, I also struggled with the sheer volume of the problem sets in the Ultimate+ curriculum, which were exhausting and took hours to review. My diagnostic score was a 155, and with nearly all my wrong answers coming from LG, my goal is to score a 170+ on the June exam.

With all that said, I was wondering if any 7sagers could offer some advice as to my next steps. I have considered the following options:

1- Re-start the CC, doing less problem sets and only skimming material I've previously covered.

2 - Because 7sage encourages longer studying periods than ~ 5 months, I am tempted to go to Kaplan/PR who have 3-month models, and use 7sage as a supplement.

3 - Begin where I left off and review the CC if weaknesses arise when PTing, especially since my primary focus is LG.

Does anyone have thoughts on what I should do? Any of the above/something else? I am open to any advice (within reason lol). I know my goal is ambitious, but I'm going to try! Thank you :)

I know a lot of schools have application deadlines in February (aka-you need provide them with a LSAT score earlier than the February score), but I'm confused on if you can update them with a February LSAT score later on.

For example, Berkley Law supposedly doesn't accept the February LSAT. https://blog.powerscore.com/lsat/bid/153645/Which-law-schools-accept-February-LSAT-scores

Does this mean they won't even look at your February score if you update them in the future? Thanks guys, sorry if this seems like a silly question!

I've always loved to read. Obsessively, truly. When I was younger I would get in trouble for trying to read under my covers with the lights off. My mother incessantly warned me about the dangers of straining my eyes. I'm now 22 years old sporting thick glasses shamelessly. Needless to say, I never learned my lesson. I also never gave up my love for reading. This is perhaps why RC is the section that leaves me most at ease, except for one very specific question type that always gets me - anything that question's/asks me to analyze the author's point of view. This frustrates me to no end because I understand the text. I can honestly read through a passage once and hold the structure and ideas in my head while minimally actually reverting back to the text. I feel like I engage enough with the text to even be able to argue in it's defense or opposition if someone were to ask me to do so ... but why are these questions so difficult for me to comprehend... Am I not sensitive enough to "cue" words? Do I need to expose myself to more "uninteresting" texts? Any tips at all on how others have overcame this struggle (if it is a common one), would be greatly appreciated. I understand that RC is perhaps the hardest section to improve on, which is why I assume more "high brow" reading exposure is really my best bet.

Hi 7Sagers! I'm hoping someone can help me with a question I have about letters of recommendation/application process and timing. I will be applying next cycle (sending in apps Fall 2018) and have already graduated university (May 2016). I sent emails out to a few professors asking for LORs this week, given how busy they are. If they were to write LORs before the current application cycle ends, would they be able to file them in CAS/LSAC for next cycle? My fear is that they'll file the LOR, and then the LOR will be deleted once the new cycle "rolls over." I don't have much knowledge of the application process in general, so I apologize if this question has a straightforward answer/is nonsensical! :) Thanks for your help.

Hey guys, I've been studying on my own for a while but it would be interesting to hear someone else's take on the Q's and the test, I'm looking forward to hearing from some of you who may be in the Miami area and are looking to study LSAT as well. Cheers!

After completing the LG CC and fool-proofing the problem sets using the Pacifico method, I've gone through PT 1-5 of the LG Bundle. I've seen ~108 unique games at this point. LG has always been a weak point of mine (the first simple seq game problem set took me about 3 hours), and the CC seems to have really helped my accuracy. I'm around -2 average.

However, my timing is still much too slow. It's been taking me around 10-15 extra minutes to finish each section in the bundle.

I'm going to continue with the Pacifico method. If anyone's been in a similar situation, at what point in the bundle, or in the PTs phase, did you start to see your LG reach -2/below territory?

Hi guys,

I just tried to register for the Feb 10, 2018 LSAT. When I was just finishing my registration the clock passed midnight to Jan 6 and the LSAC website told me that I had passed the registration deadline. Is the deadline that just passed the regular registration deadline or the late registration deadline?

LSAC's website says the regular registration deadline is January 4, 2018. So will I still be able to register late?

https://www.lsac.org/jd/lsat/test-dates-deadlines/2017-2018/us-canada-feb

Thanks.

Is there a minimum amount of sections needed to “foolproof?” My type A is kicking in and I’m considerig fullproofing 50 plus logic sections. But is that much “needed?” I know obviously the more the better but I need to balance the other sections in time for the feb 10 test. Are there particular games, like pt 1-35 that are best to foolproof? Lastly, what is he Pacifico method? Thanks a lot. I feel lost with this ☹️

Okay, so I am torn. My PS is really well written (not to toot my own horn), but anyways, Pepperdine has an optional response about your passion. I wrote a draft and its not as well written. I'm wondering how important is it to submit one?

My stats puts me at a 50% with Pepperdine, but the optional response directions say, "You are in no way disadvantaged should you choose not to exercise the option of selecting ONE of the four prompts..."

What would you guys do?

Hello, I have been studying for my LSAT and I take it again next month. I was wondering if anyone would care to study together in the Atlanta area ?

Hey everyone,

After completely bombing my September LSAT, I headed into December with more determination than ever and scored a 161 (10 points above what I scored in September!). Obviously that's huge progress and I was pretty happy, but I was aiming for 163 (and had been scoring around that range), so I knew that I would have to re-write in Feb. and squeeze out a few extra points. My LG on December was -3, but I've normally been going -0/-1, LR was -16 and RC was -7 so I know there's a lot of areas I can be targeting in order get 2-3 more questions right in February.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I should proceed these next 5 weeks? The biggest mistake I made in September was burning myself out, and in December I couldn't sleep the night before.. so I'm hoping to resolve both those issues and head into February with a clear, rested mind. Would it be wise to maybe do 6-7 PTs and focus heavily on reviewing, and drilling LR/RC when necessary? Any tips would be appreciated to ensure I conquer the LSAT and never have to face it again :)

Anybody know anything about it?

Hi friends,

I just wanted to say a huge thank you to everyone behind the scenes at 7Sage, and everyone who is part of this incredibly supportive community. I started out at 150, and ended up with a 166, a 16 point increase. While not my dream score, it's been enough to be getting me into my dream schools: so far Michigan, Berkeley, and Georgetown.

I know I couldn't have had the motivation to keep studying through the difficult moments without you all. And 7Sage taught me to begin thinking like a lawyer--I honestly feel like what I've learned here is not only applicable to the LSAT, but will help me throughout my time at law school.

A huge thank you. And to all those still studying, keep on keepin' on. You CAN do it.

With gratitude,

Elisa

Hey everyone!

I'm writing the feb LSAT and I was wondering if anyone has any specific methods that really helped them improve with speed and accuracy for the LSAT? I can usually finish all the questions and only get 1-3 Q's incorrect by the time 35 minutes is up when I'm PT-ing but on test day I have trouble finishing the sections on time due to nerves. I usually will not have time to go back to the couple questions that I had skipped and that substantially lowers my score over the 4 sections. My understanding of the LSAT is pretty good, I just need ways to improve my speed and accuracy. During test day I tend to second guess myself. Are there any methods that worked for you? Drills etc?

Thank you so much :)

@aburk3

https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/except/

JY says this conditional statement is a biconditional which is equivalent to "Allen is in the park if and only if Chris is not in the park". But I see more complexity in the statement than that due to the fact that "everyday" introduces frequency. I believe that we can clearly say "/C --> A" or "If Chris is not in the park, then Allen is in the park every day", therefore if Chris is not in the park on a given day then Allen is definitely in the park that day.

However, it gets messy when Chris does go to the park. JY says that when Chris is in the park "we can definitely say that Allen doesn't go". But I don't think that that's the proper translation because it ignores the frequency aspect of the original sentence. Rather, I think it translates to "If Chris goes to the park, then Allen is not in the park everyday" or "Allen is not necessarily in the park". Which means, we don't know whether Allen is in the park or not and therefore this is not a biconditional at all in fact.

TLDR

We can say "/C --> A" "If Chris isn't in the park, then Allen is in the park"

We cannot say "C --> /A" "If Chris is in the park, then Allen is not in the park that day"

We can't say this because "everyday" negates to "at most 364 days of the year". We can't forget about "everyday" when we translate.

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Hello!

I took the December LSAT after trying to self study with The LSAT Trainer while in season playing volleyball for my university. I was only able to take three practice tests and was scoring in the mid 150s. When I got my score back I was extremely disappointed to see that I only made a 146. I'm already registered to take the February test. I know I need to do something different to study which is why I just signed up for 7Sage. My question is that in the 5 weeks I have to prepare again for the LSAT will 7Sage be able to help me make a 4 to 8 point jump?

Hi all - this convo came up in another post and @TheMikey kindly posted the link to an article and kindly gave me his thoughts on it. I wanted to share it with the larger group because I am still mystified by what the article said. I am also interested to know if anyone has worked with Mike Spivey and if he is the real deal. I just want to know if the info in his article is credible.

http://blog.spiveyconsulting.com/late/

I always thought that if I took the June LSAT that I automatically lost the opportunity to apply for Fall 2018 and that I had to apply in the next cycle. I didn't think that I could get into any schools since most deadlines would have passed and presumably there are no spots left to offer. Welll, here comes Mike Spivey to completely confuse my understanding. According to him, if we have a number that a school wants (I would think 170 or higher) that "you can probably apply a heck of a lot later than you know or you have been lead to believe. In admissions we see it happen exactly this way hundreds of times every year." What??!! Really??

I never even thought it was possible to apply after the June test for the same cycle (so June 2018 for Fall 2018)! So, I work my butt off, take the June LSAT, score a 170+, apply and I may still have a chance?! I feel like this is almost the best news ever but I don't want to hang my hat on it. Would love to hear everyone's thoughts, specially any former Sagers who actually did this and got in.

Thanks!

Hey guys,

My stats are 174 LSAT, 3.15 GPA from top 15 university, non-URM, and decent softs. I'm preparing my applications to send sometime next week. Blanketing the top 14 (minus HYS) and adding UCLA, Vandy, USC, WUSTL, and Emory. I'm considering applying ED2 Penn -- anyone know how my chances would look?

As I've read literally everywhere, my GPA means this cycle is going to be an unpredictable one. I was wondering if anyone had any splitter success stories, or words of advice to help keep my motivation up. For those studying for the LSAT or applying right now, good luck! :smile:

Peace,

AP

Happy new year everyone!

I'm having issues with picking out assumptions in the NA section. It's completely my fault for letting the answer choices spoon feed me until now lol. I understand how NA works but it's still difficult to pick it out from the stimulus. Any tips? :)

Thank you always.