I've been focusing on the LR section of the LSAT. I realized I can spend up to 3 minutes on a question during timed test conditions. This is...ridiculous...lol. I don't realize I'm spending so much time on a question. To me, it's like only a minute and a half has gone by.

I am not good at accurately assessing how much time has passed. How do I get better? I have a habit of checking my watch at the question 10 and question 25 mark. Maybe I should start checking my watch after each page of questions?

Do you have any habits/internal cues that help you keep track of time during the test (any section: LR/LG/RC) and ensure you don't spend too much time on any one question? Please share. :)

I just watched a LG explanation video for a game that JY described as being hard and taking around 12 minutes. It was the first logic game. I am not proficient with logic games yet and under timed pressure I know I would spend the whole 35 minutes on a difficult game. I would like to do easier games first and then come back to a harder game. Any thoughts on how to recognize what increases the difficulty of a game. I know it's not an ideal strategy. I don't want to have to skip a game at all, but if it comes down to it, I would rather get 3 simpler games done right rather than waste too much time on a hard game up front. Thanks for your thoughts.

My UG GPA is 3.82; I haven't taken the LSAT yet (July or September) but I believe I can conservatively expect high 150s-low 160s. I also have 10 years of work experience in the legal field and a fairly decent lifetime-of-struggles type of personal story.

I'll be applying this fall to Stetson Law School in the Tampa area (where I live). I'm choosing this school strictly because of location - I'm in my mid-40s with a family, a home, a husband with a career, friends, etc. I don't exactly have the flexibility that younger students have. As it's a private school and my goal is to work in the public sector, I'm banking on a full scholarship.

What I'm wondering is whether or not I should apply to additional schools to hopefully encourage Stetson to offer me a scholarship. Will they even know if I've applied to and been accepted at other schools or would I share that info somehow? Florida State is a viable (albeit not ideal) option, as are Florida (though less so) and Miami - basically, I need to stay in Florida.

Hi everyone,

I just finished MSS question sets, and am constantly missing 2~3 questions. I'm actually amazed at my stupidity.

Should I redo MSS or should I just continue?

Also, is it better to finish each section and go on to the next one? or should I stick with the schedule? I've read some other people's postings and many seem to finish LG first to get it out of the way.

I'd really appreciate any advice! Thank you!

I want to make sure I'm not missing out on any valuable tips, tricks, etc. Besides following the study guide and using the videos to ensure I "get it," are there any features of 7sage that you use that maybe I or others are unaware of?

For example, in a recent question I posted re: timing yourself, someone mentioned using the 7sage app's test proctor feature. I had no idea this existed and I expect it will be quite helpful when I'm taking regular PTs.

Is there anything else I may be missing out on?

Hey all,

I've noticed a trend where I feel that almost all answer choices with the word "many" or "some" are WRONG in weaken questions. I think the general reason for this is that because "many/some" can mean as little as 1, it's very hard to weaken an argument with just one instance of something.

Can anyone confirm this trend for me, or have any thoughts/comments/advice? Does anyone also have an example where this is not the case -- where an answer choice with the word "some/many" is actually the right answer choice for a weaken question?

Also, I'm curious to hear your thoughts for RC weaken questions. Does this trend also hold true?

Thank you!

So I'm new to LG -- I've already done the first section regarding sequencing games, and I've foolproofed all 10 problem sets from that first section. I feel like I've got that down; then I moved onto to sequencing games w/ a twist (and double sequencing games) and whenever I come across a new game for the first time in the problem set, it takes me longer than it should (usually 3-5 mins) to get the game board set up, and then takes me a while to solve it.

I understand that through practicing and foolproofing that I can finish the game correctly in the target time it should take, however, I'm just getting really discouraged because I feel like I have to keep watching the video explanation for EVERY single game just to get it down.

I feel like at some point I should start to be able to solve these games on my own without needing to watch the video explanations.

When did you guys get to the point that you could come across a new game and solve it efficiently? I know I'm just starting out, but it's just tough when it keeps taking me longer than it should to get the games solved. Any success stories?

Hello 7sagers.

So wondering if I should be approaching these 5 star questions differently. I recently took a PT where I missed 5 LR questions and all of them were 5 star questions, (Weaken, Strengthen, Parallel, Flaw, AP) so, I decided to start by drilling some of the 5 star strengthen questions and I got like 10 wrong in a row.

What should be my strategy going forward here? Go back to the CC?

Is there something you think specificially about 5 star questions that help you get them better?

Or should I not even be focusing on the difficulty of the questions and just focus on the type of questions I'm having difficulty with.

Thanks

Will anyone look mine over and give me some advice? It would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

EDIT: Hmm can't figure out how to just paste the link - it goes to a video link that doesn't work.

Google Khan Academy LSAT youtube and you will see 6 videos on their channel.

Just recently started the curriculum and planning on taking LSAT next year January latest March was wondering if anyone has same test date goals and wanted to coordinate some study sessions together.

hi there! I've only taken the diagnostic at this point, so the only timing I did was to set an alarm for the amount of time each section allows. I'm noticing lots of people are timing themselves for each individual question - how are you doing that - stopwatch? I'm assuming you're doing so in order to determine which area(s) you need to improve speed but if there's another reason, could you please share what that is?

thanks :)

I just finished PT 47 and got -10 in section 3, LR. -3 on the other LR section. Having study for LSAT for a year.

It is simply so discouraging that I still get -10 in an LR section after studying for a year and ton of drill. Especially that LR is the section that I spent most of my energy on, because it has 2 sections in the exam and it is almost impossible for me to get 170+ with -3/-4 per section. (-0 in LG but not strong in RC)

-10 is not normal performance for me. Most common performance for me is around -4/-5/ per section. But, in a set of PT, I often have a good LR section (~-3) and a bad one (~-8). Sometimes I do pretty well when I thought I was not in good mood (e.g. feeling sleepy at night), and sometimes I do pretty bad when I thought I was in good shape. I don't quite understand what my performance is telling.

For timing, I finish a 26-qiestion LR section for 30-35min (yes my speed also fluctuate). I always try to apply "low-hang coconut" rule, but I never finished quick enough to have a full 2nd round, and I still feel stressed on the 2nd round. Plus, most of my errors hide in the questions that I did not circled.

For the questions I got wrong, I can recognize the error of 90%+ of them pretty quick and without watching explain videos. I think the problem is not that my logic is weak, but my mindset/approach to the questions is problematic. As to question type, I do worse in argument-type questions, and better in RRE/Disagree/labeling questions.

I think I am on a changing in my understanding of argument-type questions. I used to seriously read every single word in the questions stimulus, try to understand the topic. But a week ago I start to realize that what really matter is the relationship between P & C. It's all about logic reasoning structure. But I haven't convert this understanding into a test strategy. Should I go on PTs or should I do some drill? (for the question from PT 40 or earlier, I am so familiar with them that I almost remember them...) Would love to hear some advices from somebody that have gone though the process.

Thanks a lot in advance!! :)

I feel so defeated right now, and I need some advice. I've been studying for this exam for a little over a year, and I feel like I need to reexamine my study methods. I've taken 23 PTs (including my diagnostic) in total, with an average PT score of 155. The following is my breakdown of the averages for each section: -7.1for LR / -7.9 LG /-10.6 RC. Looking at these numbers in conjunction with the amount of time I've been studying makes me feel so inadequate. I feel like crying as I write this, but I feel like I need to be as forthcoming as possible.

I've tried to follow all the wonderful advice given on this forum and it has, without a doubt, helped me to better understand the underlying concepts of this test. On a positive note, my BR score has been in the high 170s for the past 10 PTs I've taken, an indication, if any, that I'm grasping the concepts. I think it's important to note that I am very meticulous with my blind review method. I have literally hundreds of pages of notes and explanations for problems I've missed. Nevertheless, I still find myself struggling to perform at my best during PTs. I've attempted to remedy this by taking timed sections in between PTs, as well as drill specific question types. I've also implemented skipping strategies during timed tests which has allowed to get through all the questions with a couple minutes to spare at the end of each section. I have seen some improvement in my score. I have been scoring lately in the high 150s with even a couple of PTs in the low 160s. This has been a confidence booster, even though they maybe outliers.

I'm starting to think I just have really bad test anxiety, but I don't want to chalk it up to that just yet. My frustration has led me to try and control other aspects of my life with the hope that it would give me some edge during PTs. For example, I've picked up meditation, I've started going to the gym regularly, and I've completely cut out alcohol from my diet. I'm not sure if these changes have helped, as I've been unable to discern any drastic changes in my score since I've implemented them.I'm struggling to not succumb to feeling so defeated, but it's really hard not to.

With that said, I'm determined to not give up. I've invested waaaay too much time. I just feel rather desperate right now and need some advice. My BR score does give me hope that I'm understanding the material, for the most part. I just don't know what the fuck is happening during my PTs. Does anyone else have similar struggles?

Can any grammar geeks out there please explain how the sentence structure of answer choice B works? How do I know that "that species" is referring to the bacterial species and not to the antibiotic species? I understand that species inherently means something alive and perhaps I am being naive in assuming antibiotics can mean alive as it's name implies death of living things. However, on a purely grammatical level, the subject of the sentence is seemingly the antibiotics so anything coming after a comma that comes after the introduction to the subject should thus be talking about the subject. Am I off about this?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-62-section-4-question-11/

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Hello all, I'm new to 7sage, still in the free account (unfortunately, found out about 7sage after signing up for another in-person class $1400).

I officially started studying and classes mid-April, and didn't realize at the time that I would not be prepared for the June test.

My diagnostic came out to be 149. I study every day, at minimum 6 hours (which includes 3 PTs a week, reviewing, drills, homework from class, etc.) and some times up to 10 hours. I have no other commitments, I just separated from the military and going to Georgetown has always been my dream. At this point, realistically speaking, I'm so devastated my score is STILL stuck at the same place as I started about a month ago. I bought all of the PTs already and I have a lot of the conceptual knowledge down, but it's still not working out. One improvement, I guess, is that I can get through most of the questions (not correctly, but...) under a proctored PT, just leaving about 2-3 questions per section (still bad...), compared to leaving 6 questions or so in the beginning.

Is it even realistic that I can improve at minimum 10 points in the next two months? I know June will be a disaster, but hopefully "trying it out" will make me less anxious for the July exam.

I have my mind set pretty firm on July being the last exam because I want to apply ED for Georgetown.

My LSAC GPA is 3.72, and I am not URM. Do I even have chances of getting in with this low of an LSAT score?

*If anyone has any advice on getting into Georgetown or rather, how I should approach the school, I will most gladly take it.

What can I do to improve, what is my problem? Am I not studying smart?

I've already realized that I did not set up a realistic goal in the first place with an unrealistic time frame, so please help me out what I CAN do, rather that what I failed to set up or take into account.

This post is not saying that I am giving up, but I need to navigate to the right way in chances of doing whatever I can to increase my scores. This is a side note, but since I already have the PTs, should I still purchase 7sage?

I will really appreciate some feedback! Thank you for listening to my sadness...

Hey, everyone!

I'm putting together my resume for applications and am wondering how other folks have managed to handle their experience.

I have been working for 2 years FT post-graduation, but had internships throughout my undergraduate career (every semester and summer) that were all relevant to pursuing law.

If I include my two full time jobs and 5 internships (one includes being hired as a research consultant part time while still in school), I quickly take up one page with experience. The internships were - Global Attitudes Research Assistant (consultant position hired out of Global Strategy Internship) for an advocacy organization, Host Country Affairs Intern (this was with the State Dept. at the US Mission to the UN), Public Policy & Affairs Intern at a LGBT health org, Paralegal Intern at an impact litigation organization and Legal & Public Policy Intern at an alternatives to incarceration court.

Does anyone have any feelings on this? Is it fair to include each of these and maybe just limit the bullets to 1 or 2 for the internships?

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Hi all!

In the phrase "It is the national government that must save the environment"

Why is it that "save the environment" is not the necessary condition?

and rather

"save the environment -> national government" is the correct logical translation to this sentence ??

Intuitively I can understand why,

but it would help greatly to hear a clear explanation of the usage of "must" in this sentence

Thanks in advance!

Hello everyone!

I wrote the June 2017 exam and scored much lower than my average PT result, and after not getting into my first choice school I've decided to retake when I'm ready to score in a higher range. I'll definitely be following the core curriculum and study plan 100% when I get back from a vacation I have planned, but I was just wondering if anyone who's retaken the LSAT over a year later has any tips on getting back into the zone here?

Thanks so much for any answers, and happy studying!

I am signed up for th June lsat. My recent scores have been 165, 168, 169, 169, 171, 165, 170, 173. And then today I got a 164 on pt 72. I know sometimes we just have bad days but I went into this test rested and confident, I just don’t know what happened. Trying not to let it bring me down but I am experiencing some anxiety for sure with only 3 weeks left to go. While I’ve hit 170+ several times, I just don’t feel solidly there and would be pretty bummed if I score below it on test day. Sadly July is not an option for me as I’ll be abroad. How should I proved. LR seems to give me the most trouble, today I missed a combined 14 Questions there alone

Hi Guys!

This is my first time to study the LSAT and have never bought any resources. My target score is 170. I have some philosophy background including logic but it was very elementary logical arguments. what would be the the right steps I need to follow?

Thanks

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I finally broke 170 today after quite a few tests stuck in the high 160s. I'm still aiming to score higher, but it feels really good to pass a notable benchmark.

What has gone well for you as of late? Anything click, or any personal records for scores on PTs, or any culinary successes in your procrasti-baking?