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Sufficient and Necessary Conditions Group 3 and 4Okay, Im having so much trouble trying to fund out what goes into the sufficient or the necessary conditions. Specifically in group 3 and 4. I feel l…
... the necessary conditions. Specifically in group 3 and 4. I feel like I ... -
Group 3 and 4 plus Group 1Hey everyone... I'm only about a quarter of the way through the curriculum, so perhaps this is discussed later in the courses, but after being con…
... being confused with how group 3 and 4 interact, I sought out ... following example which combines group 1 and group 3, based on the ... was:
All: group 1, sufficient
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could we ignore indicators in sentences with both group 3 and group 4 translations?In looking through the combination of conditional logic lessons on 7Sage and in The LSAT Trainer, I think I may have hit on a much more simple way to…
... both a group 3 and group 4 indicator.
The 7Sage group 3 indicators ... would get A and /B and would instinctively apply the group 4 rule to ... group 3 and group 4 indicators treat the group 3 indicator as group 2 and the group 4 indicator as group ... -
When you have Group 3 and 4 together.Hi guys, When you come across a group 3 and group 4 indicator in the same sentence ("cannot" and "unless"), which rule do you use? e.g. the group 3 …
... you come across a group 3 and group 4 indicator in the same sentence ... ("cannot" and "unless"), which rule do ... use? e.g. the group 3 or group 4 rule. Basically, how do ... -
Conditional Statements with Both Group 3 and 4 IndicatorsHey all. I'm just wondering how most people deal with statements with both Group 3 and Group 4 indicators. I realize that one can use either rule and…
... with statements with both Group 3 and Group 4 indicators. I realize that ... one can use either rule and ... sense to use the Group 3 rule, and was wondering if ...
However with the Group 4 rule:
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Question regarding with basic translation group 1 and group 2GROUP 1: IF, WHEN, WHERE, ALL, THE ONLY, EVERY, ANY, WHENEVER, ANYONE & GROUP 2: ONLY, ONLY IF, ONLY WHEN, ONLY WHERE, ALWAYS, REQUIRES, MUST (Group …
... ANY, WHENEVER, ANYONE & GROUP 2: ONLY, ONLY IF, ONLY ... MUST (Group 1 indicators follows with sufficiency and group 2 indicators follows ... from group 1 and 2 in order to memorize them and ... group 2; "when" is from group 1, while "only where" is from group 2 ... -
Hardest LG - PT 65 - Section 2 - Game 4Doing this question makes me feel like I'm being abused. It's like the LSAT writers are getting some sick pleasure out of tricking me into choosing t…
... the wording, switching from hour and half hour to sequence of ... .com/lsat_explanations/lsat-65-section-2-game-4/ -
November Study GroupHello! I'm looking to form a small study group for the Nov. test. I'm currently PT-ing in the 165 range (BR 176-178) and aiming to get to 171-173. Cu…
... to form a small study group for the Nov. test ... get down to -1/2) and -4/5 for RC (aiming ... love to create a group with people with similar ... )
- General LR fluency and speed
- Timing/fluency ... /> - Reverse engineering Qs and seeing how I could have ... -
Translation Rule Group 3 & 4-NegationHi All! Quick question? Regarding Lawgic and translation rules for group 3 and 4. I understand I need to pick either idea, then negate that idea e…
... question? Regarding Lawgic and translation rules for group 3 and 4. I understand I ... -
Looking for long term study group (2-3 years)Hello there! I am nearly done with my AA and going to be starting my BA soon (Note: I'm in my 30s, I work fulltime and go to school, so I'm going thr…
... nearly done with my AA and going to be starting my ... my 30s, I work fulltime and go to school, so I ... not be taking it for 2 to 2 and half years from now ... more comfortable studying long term and as a result I would ... to find/make a study group for those who want to ... -
Basic Translation Group 2Okay, this may sound random. In group one it goes Ex: "All Jedi use the force" J -> F /F -> /J Group 2 goes: Ex: "Only the good die young" D…
... , this may sound random. In group one it goes
Ex ... /> /F -> /J
Group 2 goes:
Ex: "Only the ... ; /D
Why in group two does it go right ... versus left to right like group one?
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PT18.S2.Q23 - teachers are effective only whenhttp://7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-18-section-2-question-23/ I'm having trouble translating the "not until" statement. Until is "negate suffici…
... .com/lsat_explanations/lsat-18-section-2-question-23/
I'm ... to go ahead and memorize that when group 3 and 4 indicators are used ... sentence they cancel each other and it reads like an if ... -
PT68.S4.G4 - an editor will edit seven articles (alternative approach)https://7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-68-section-4-game-4/ Hi, I'd like to share a method I used for pt68 game 4. At first glance, it seems like …
... making the rule irrelevant) and one with Qnot3 (therefore ... in 2 and 4. Whether J goes in 2 or 4, G and R ... S and H for 1/2 but since Q and S ... are of the same group, ... on 2 because there's 2 things before it and we ... left with Q and H; H and J also ... -
PT 80 Blind Review | Multiple SessionsHey 7Sagers, I'm leading BR calls for PT 80 (December 2016 LSAT). I'm holding 9 sessions total. 3 for each of LR 1, LR 2, and RC. Each session wi…
... each of LR 1, LR 2, and RC. Each session will focus ... accomodate people's various schedules and to reduce class size per ... work through the questions the group nominates. I generally try to ... /> 5/23 Tuesday - Section 2 - RC, Passages 2 and 4
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having NOT and UNLESS in the same sentenceHey Guys, I always get confused when we have a group 3 and 4 word. For instance, PT 69, part 4, question 21, answer choice D. So, we have /pub…
... when we have a group 3 and 4 word. For instance, ... PT 69, part 4, question 21, ... So, we have /published AND important and well written (The published is ... will make published positive and keep important and well written. So ... -
Going -3 and -4 per LR section untimedHi guys, I recently noticed that I continue to go -3 and -4 on each LR section either untimed or timed and BR'ed. These questions tend to be 4 and…
... continue to go -3 and -4 on each LR section ... These questions tend to be 4 and 5 star questions. Since ... the question stem, stimulus, and answer choices. I noticed ... made improvements (went -5 and -6 per each LR ... am still getting -3 and -4 wrong on each LR section ... -
"Is" group 2 indicator?Can "is" be a group 2 indicator like "must"? E.g. X is Y = X->Y JY seems to treat it as such in 60.1.17
Can "is" be a group 2 indicator like "must"? E.g. X is Y = X->Y
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PT30.S3.P3: Meyerson and CLS, Paragraphs 3 and 4Hi, could someone who understands this passage thoroughly translate paragraphs 3 and 4 with me? JY's explanation video for this passage zoomed throug…
... passage thoroughly translate paragraphs 3 and 4 with me? JY's explanation ... zoomed through the last paragraph and I was still left pretty ... must be random or irrational and I get that she clearly ... would that help?
And for the last paragraph, is ... -
Posting on Behalf of a 7Sage User: PT1.S3.Q7 - A population of game ducks**[I am posting on behalf of a 7Sage user:]** Can you go through and explain I am really confused I think PT 1 S3 Q07 has answer mistake. The l…
... 1,2, 4
( 1,2 both belong to the same group so ... lets say 1+2=3 )
... 2 and they have also given us quantity comparison of 1,2,4 ... 1 into one flask and 4 into another flask they ... if we compare 2 and 4 in quantity 2 is much more than ... -
Jan 27th FREE Proctored PT & Jan 29th Blind ReviewHi all! Thanks for showing up to Free Live Class Day on Monday and our Proctored PT last Saturday! If you missed it, or if you're ready for more …
... -blind-review/)! We covered the group's flagged questions in LR ... bone to pick with Flaw and Assumption questions. Getting to the ... bottom of the meaning and structure for Passage 2 and 4 in the RC ... the duration of your test and even simulate a pesky interruption ... -
could we ignore indicators in sentences with both group 3 and group 4 translations?In looking through the combination of conditional logic lessons on 7Sage and in The LSAT Trainer, I think I may have hit on a much more simple way to…
Jonathon: I know the group 3 and group 4 indicators by heart. I ... is associated with. The group 3 and 4 rules are the least intuitive ... treat one indicator as negation and then 2) apply the other indicator ... by the application of step 2. The suggestion I offered ... -
could we ignore indicators in sentences with both group 3 and group 4 translations?In looking through the combination of conditional logic lessons on 7Sage and in The LSAT Trainer, I think I may have hit on a much more simple way to…
... is associated with. The group 3 and 4 rules are the least intuitive ... means "if not", and "only if" is a group 2 word because it ... a sentence, (2) remember that this rule exists and is different from ... -
PT 74: Just hit a 171It's all falling into place. I saved this test for close to the end in order to get a good picture of how I'll do on Monday, and in my PT I just hit …
... I'll do on Monday, and in my PT I just ... point sink.. got -4, then -2 and -4 on arg 1 and 2.
Just ... -
Translation confusionsFor the following statement "I only work on Tuesday," i translated it as Tuesday -> Work.. but I guess it's Work -> Tuesday. Not sure why. "Only" is…
... /> Not sure why. "Only" is group 2 and introduces necessary condition (in this ... -
How to get those last points on LRHello! It was about a month ago that I first broke into the 170s on practice tests (sadly, just after taking my December test on which I only man…
... 165) where something finally clicked and I started going from -9s ... , though, I still miss between 2 and 4 on each logical reasoning section ... easy question incorrectly and missed a point or 2. It's the ... sort of question where I go back and ... -
I feel like it's all starting to crumble!Hey, guys! Has anyone ever felt like everything is starting to crumble for them? LG has always been my best section but now I can go -6! I get life a…
... -6! I get life and all that but OMG! I ... this for far too long and it's time to ... I was doing LG yesterday and actually had to go back ... to clarify a rule using group 3 and 4 indicators, smh. Thats 101 ... ! I know we have highs and ... -
Kaplan vs 7sage logical indicators approachI started this LSAT journey with a quick pass through of the Kaplan logical reasoning approach and, honestly, there were still some pretty gaping hol…
... memorization of those four groups and the translation strategy. This ... for me to translate the group 3 and 4 words so mechanically.
group 4 word. In that case, it ... about translating in groups 3 and 4. Has anyone else found these ... -
Did LR change in 40s or am I just getting dumber?I don't know if I'm just getting worse at the LR timed sections or if the LR sections have changed, so this is normal. I was scoring -1 to -4 in the …
... -4 in the 30s.
Test 40: -6; BR:-2 and -9 ... /> Test 43: -6; BR:-2 and -4; BR -2
Test 44: -10; BR ... :-3 and -6; BR -4
Test ...
Test 46: -8; BR -2 and -9 with BR -3
High 160s to consistent 170sI got a 167 on March 2019 test, and i got a 168 on pt 85, 169 on PT 82. I have gotten lucky a couple times and got a 171(PT 83) but thats rare. Anyo…
I got a 167 on March 2019 test, and i got a 168 on pt 85, 169 on PT 82. I have gotten lucky a couple times and got a 171(PT 83) but thats rare. Anyone have tips on scoring in 170s consistently? For LR i get between -2 and -4, RC -4-6 and LG -2-0Got 162 on the LSAT- how can I improve my score?Hi all! I got my June LSAT score back and it's a 162 (got -8 on RC, -4 on LR part 1, -5 on LR part 2, and -4 on LG). My scores on PTs range betwee…
... my June LSAT score back and it's a 162 (got ... 1, -5 on LR part 2, and -4 on LG). My scores on ... PTs range between 160 and 166 so I was not ... cancel after getting the score) and September. Is it realistic to ... of getting 165 by July and 170 by September?
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