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could we ignore indicators in sentences with both group 3 and group 4 translations?In looking through the combination of conditional logic lessons on 7Sage and in The LSAT Trainer, I think I may have hit on a much more simple way to…
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An intuitive way to think about "Unless" "Until"?I'm curious if anyone has a good way to handle group 3 indicators "unless" or "until." In English these are often used to heavily imply an EXCLUSIVE …
... way to handle group 3 indicators "unless" or "until." In English these ... G) unless it rains (R).
Applying our group 3 translation ... statements of "until" involving time and "unless" involving things ... angry (A) with you unless you clean your room ... -
Group 3 Logical Indicators problemsJust started Group 3 Logical Indicators, and I'm confused. I'm not confused about the process (or at least I don't think I am). With Group 3 Indicato…
... 't think I am). With Group 3 Indicators, you pick an idea ... ; W
There is point unless we win
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Sing until the cows return
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"Unless" in Loophole vs. Group 3 in 7SageI'm going through the Loophole in Logical Reasoning book now and there are several pages dedicated to the indicator "unless." _Loophole_ specifies th…
... pages dedicated to the indicator "unless." _Loophole_ specifies that you must ... make the target of "unless" the necessary condition, and the ... "unless" in (with what _Loophole_ would call "either/or") with Group 3 and ... . is 7sage too broad on "unless"? -
When you have Group 3 and 4 together.Hi guys, When you come across a group 3 and group 4 indicator in the same sentence ("cannot" and "unless"), which rule do you use? e.g. the group 3 …
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Conditional Statements with Both Group 3 and 4 IndicatorsHey all. I'm just wondering how most people deal with statements with both Group 3 and Group 4 indicators. I realize that one can use either rule and…
... deal with statements with both Group 3 and Group 4 indicators. I realize ... not be a good show unless there are sophisticated listeners in ... Group 4 rule:
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"Except" is biconditional, but why not just Group 3?I do not understand why 7Sage teaches "except" as a biconditional. It makes more sense to me to see it as a simple Group 3, where you just negate the…
... see it as a simple Group 3, where you just negate the ... "I go to the store, unless it's Monday." -
Group 3 and 4 plus Group 1Hey everyone... I'm only about a quarter of the way through the curriculum, so perhaps this is discussed later in the courses, but after being con…
... being confused with how group 3 and 4 interact, I ... example which combines group 1 and group 3, based on the ... br /> All horses are strong, unless they have been drugged.
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Quiz on Group 3 Translations- Question 9Hello, How did you guys translate question 9 in the quiz to lawgic? I read the sentence like this "without a will testifying the transferal (WTT…
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Group 3 Indicator ConfusionHi everyone. I'm having trouble following the rules to translate a sentence with a group 3 indicator. The lesson states that it doesn't matter which …
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Group 3 negate sufficient questionI am doing the flash cards for the group 3 logical indicators and keep coming up with the contrapositive first. Example: There is no punishment witho…
... the flash cards for the group 3 logical indicators and keep coming ... no punishment without law. The group 3 operator is without I picked ... -
"Or" and Group 3 Insights for Internalization of Concepts?I still haven’t quite internalized why “or” is in group 3, and don’t have a fundamental understanding on why sufficient/necessary are the way they ar…
... internalized why “or” is in group 3, and don’t have a ... the way they are in group 3. Does anyone have some insight ... -
Sufficient and Necessary Conditions Group 3 and 4Okay, Im having so much trouble trying to fund out what goes into the sufficient or the necessary conditions. Specifically in group 3 and 4. I feel l…
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Translation Rule Group 3 & 4-NegationHi All! Quick question? Regarding Lawgic and translation rules for group 3 and 4. I understand I need to pick either idea, then negate that idea e…
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How do you diagram a conditional that has a group 3 and a group 4 logical indicator?Example: "We cannot have A without B" or "Without A we cannot have B" Cannot = group 4 (negate, necessary) Without = group 3 (negate, sufficient)
Example: "We cannot have A without B" or "Without A we cannot have B"
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When "or" means "and" does it belong to Group 3?Hi all! My understanding is the following: 1. inclusive “or” gives you group 3 2. “not both” gives you group 4. 3. “either or but not bot…
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The use of "unless" Group 3 and "cannot" Group 4 combined translation in a Sequencing LGHey y'all just in a bit of a rut and need some clarification from my 7Sage peeps. When the term "unless" is used in a logic game rule with other grou…
... player via the group 4 "not" or "cannot" group in the conditional ... :
"cannot select J unless W is also selected" . Question ... thought I had this mastered until I took PT 87 Game ... # 3 (Double layer Sequencing)
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Group 3 indicator QuizI figured I'd post this as a discussion rather than a comment on the quiz page since it will be seen by more. I have 2 questions regarding the quiz. …
... not guilty of an offense unless his liability is based on ... tickling you on the nose until the leprechauns from my dream ... -
[per Dave's request] 0L/Pre-1L Prep AdviceHey y'all— Just popping in from 1L land per @DumbHollywoodActor 's request to share some thoughts about 1L prep—specifically, Larry Law Law's KTCO…
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3) These principles (not briefing ... a law school exam unless/until you're exposed to ... was crazy. My study group thought I was crazy. ... recommends (rare) and/or 3) to get enough of the ... -
having NOT and UNLESS in the same sentenceHey Guys, I always get confused when we have a group 3 and 4 word. For instance, PT 69, part 4, question 21, answer choice D. So, we have /pub…
... confused when we have a group 3 and 4 word. For instance ... from here since we have unless and not. I went through ... -
Diagramming NO and Understanding ContextHello All, I had a question regarding whether or not to negate "NO" in the translations section and how that works. Below, I have highlighted why …
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3 Days Until LSATI'm taking the LSAT in 3 days and I know I won't really be able to make much progress from now until then, but should I still be doing drills? Or can…
I'm taking the LSAT in 3 days and I know I won't really be able to make much progress from now until then, but should I still be doing drills? Or can I take these 3 days to work on application materials? -
LR Study Guides ThreadI was wondering if we could upload our study guides in this post for those taking the June and upcoming LSATs can always come back to this.
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BASIC TRANSLATION: GROUP 1 Lesson 16 of 40 ...
BASIC TRANSLATION: GROUP 2 Lesson 19 of 40 ... BASIC TRANSLATION: GROUP 3 Lesson 22 of 40
UNLESS, UNTIL, OR, ... WITHOUT
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could we ignore indicators in sentences with both group 3 and group 4 translations?In looking through the combination of conditional logic lessons on 7Sage and in The LSAT Trainer, I think I may have hit on a much more simple way to…
... and logic and so the group 3 and group 4 words hold a ... my own understanding of the group 3 and group 4 words, as Jonathon ... concepts of words such as "unless" and "until" now have a stronger ... focus on the combination of group 3 and group 4 indicators in one ... -
PT18.S2.Q23 - teachers are effective only whenhttps://7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-18-section-2-question-23/ Here is my conditional reasoning: teachers are effective ------> when they hel…
... negate the entire conditional of unless.
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1: NOT(TP until ES) - not statement encompassing conditional ... until
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Help with a simple translationI'm working on translations to help with my SA understanding and am using the "find the missing link" exercises by taking the logic and translating t…
... sure if "not" is a group 3 indicator tho. The most common ... ones we see/use within group 3 is unless, until, without, and or, and ... "none" then it should be group 4 negate necessary. But I ... -
For those of us studying part-timeThis post is inspired by some of the really great conversation I saw after @"Alex Divine" posted a thread for full time LSAT prep folks. I'm kind of …
... ie. UNLESS (silent for 10 seconds) then i say group 3 Necessary Sufficient ... that talked about not scheduling until you feel you are there ... -
Group 3 Logical Indicators problemsJust started Group 3 Logical Indicators, and I'm confused. I'm not confused about the process (or at least I don't think I am). With Group 3 Indicato…
... a straight forward application of Group 3 indicators.
** ... cannot leave the office until I've finished my ... helpful to consider the until, unless, except type indicators as ... , take the stairs (TS), unless otherwise instructed (OI).
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"Until" as a logical indicatorHi all, I'm not through the CC yet (obviously). When learning logical indicators, I'm trying to reason my way through them, because I know I will fo…
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So unless specifically told to stop by ... with the Group 3 translation of "add pennies to the jar until Bob ... Maybe this example in Quiz - Group 3 Translations 1 w/ Answers can ... for a given calendar year until tax returns are calculated ...
