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When you have Group 3 and 4 together.Hi guys, When you come across a group 3 and group 4 indicator in the same sentence ("cannot" and "unless"), which rule do you use? e.g. the group 3 …
... you come across a group 3 and group 4 indicator in the same ... you use? e.g. the group 3 or group 4 rule. Basically, how ... -
could we ignore indicators in sentences with both group 3 and group 4 translations?In looking through the combination of conditional logic lessons on 7Sage and in The LSAT Trainer, I think I may have hit on a much more simple way to…
... group 3 and group 4 indicator.
The 7Sage group 3 ... to apply the group 3 indicator rule (negate ... group 3 and group 4 indicators treat the group 3 indicator as group 2 and the group ... 4 indicator as group ... -
Quiz on Group 3 Translations- Question 9Hello, How did you guys translate question 9 in the quiz to lawgic? I read the sentence like this "without a will testifying the transferal (WTT…
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Group 3 Logical Indicators problemsJust started Group 3 Logical Indicators, and I'm confused. I'm not confused about the process (or at least I don't think I am). With Group 3 Indicato…
Just started Group 3 Logical Indicators, and I'm ... 't think I am). With Group 3 Indicators, you pick an idea ... -
Group 3 Indicator ConfusionHi everyone. I'm having trouble following the rules to translate a sentence with a group 3 indicator. The lesson states that it doesn't matter which …
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Conditional Statements with Both Group 3 and 4 IndicatorsHey all. I'm just wondering how most people deal with statements with both Group 3 and Group 4 indicators. I realize that one can use either rule and…
... deal with statements with both Group 3 and Group 4 indicators. I realize ... intuitive sense to use the Group 3 rule, and was wondering ... just sticking with using the Group 3 rule at all times ... audience."
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Group 3 negate sufficient questionI am doing the flash cards for the group 3 logical indicators and keep coming up with the contrapositive first. Example: There is no punishment witho…
... the flash cards for the group 3 logical indicators and keep coming ... no punishment without law. The group 3 operator is without I picked ... -
"Except" is biconditional, but why not just Group 3?I do not understand why 7Sage teaches "except" as a biconditional. It makes more sense to me to see it as a simple Group 3, where you just negate the…
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"Or" and Group 3 Insights for Internalization of Concepts?I still haven’t quite internalized why “or” is in group 3, and don’t have a fundamental understanding on why sufficient/necessary are the way they ar…
... internalized why “or” is in group 3, and don’t have a ... the way they are in group 3. Does anyone have some insight ... -
Sufficient and Necessary Conditions Group 3 and 4Okay, Im having so much trouble trying to fund out what goes into the sufficient or the necessary conditions. Specifically in group 3 and 4. I feel l…
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"Unless" in Loophole vs. Group 3 in 7SageI'm going through the Loophole in Logical Reasoning book now and there are several pages dedicated to the indicator "unless." _Loophole_ specifies th…
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Group 3 and 4 plus Group 1Hey everyone... I'm only about a quarter of the way through the curriculum, so perhaps this is discussed later in the courses, but after being con…
... after being confused with how group 3 and 4 interact, I ... following example which combines group 1 and group 3, based on the ... was:
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Translation Rule Group 3 & 4-NegationHi All! Quick question? Regarding Lawgic and translation rules for group 3 and 4. I understand I need to pick either idea, then negate that idea e…
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How do you diagram a conditional that has a group 3 and a group 4 logical indicator?Example: "We cannot have A without B" or "Without A we cannot have B" Cannot = group 4 (negate, necessary) Without = group 3 (negate, sufficient)
Example: "We cannot have A without B" or "Without A we cannot have B"
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When "or" means "and" does it belong to Group 3?Hi all! My understanding is the following: 1. inclusive “or” gives you group 3 2. “not both” gives you group 4. 3. “either or but not bot…
... /> 1. inclusive “or” gives you group 3
2. “not both” gives ... you group 4.
3. “either or but not ... both” gives you the bi-conditional group ... a sentence, do we follow Group 3 rules? How would we write ... -
The use of "unless" Group 3 and "cannot" Group 4 combined translation in a Sequencing LGHey y'all just in a bit of a rut and need some clarification from my 7Sage peeps. When the term "unless" is used in a logic game rule with other grou…
... player via the group 4 "not" or "cannot" group in the conditional ... I took PT 87 Game # 3 (Double layer Sequencing)
If you see two Group 4 Logical Indicators in one sentenceHey guys, can someone please advise - If you see two group 4 logical indicators in one sentence - do you pick one idea and negate necessary? Doe…
... advise - If you see two group 4 logical indicators in one ... as when you see both group 3 and group 4 indicators in one ... /> Example- If you cannot (cannot- group 4) swim you are not ... (not - group 4) a Koala Bear-
BiconditionalsPerhaps I missed something as I do not remember a lesson on biconditionals (double arrows). My understanding is that each term is both sufficient…
... 've categorized "except" as a group 3 indicator, so that is causing ...Sufficient & Necessary ConditionsHi everyone, I'm currently reviewing PT 37 that I completed yesterday and I'm on section 2 #12. Even watching JY's video, I'm still a little confu…
... the "without" for being in group 3? And we're just treating ...PT33.S3.Q08 - most people invest in the stock market withouthttp://7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-33-section-3-question-08/ In JY's lecture, for the group 3 logical indicators such as "without", he mentions…
... JY's lecture, for the group 3 logical indicators such as "without ...PT18.S2.Q23 - teachers are effective only whenhttp://7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-18-section-2-question-23/ I'm having trouble translating the "not until" statement. Until is "negate suffici…
... ahead and memorize that when group 3 and 4 indicators are used ...Lesson 28 of 40 Introduction to logic , @ 2 minutes 28 sec to 2 minutes 34 secWhen JY is explaining not ( group 4 Logical operator) he does not apply the not to the come home idea. i understand its function as a logical operato…
When JY is explaining not ( group 4 Logical operator) he does ... as in the description of Group 3.
if not is ...group 3 rules pt 52 g3Hey! So I think I'm confusing myself but the game states: Telemarketing will not be given until both Goals and Objections have been given. then the …
Hey! So I think I'm confusing myself but the game states: Telemarketing will not be given until both Goals and Objections have been given.
then the next rule:
Negotiating will not be given until Persuasion has been given.
I ...An intuitive way to think about "Unless" "Until"?I'm curious if anyone has a good way to handle group 3 indicators "unless" or "until." In English these are often used to heavily imply an EXCLUSIVE …
... a good way to handle group 3 indicators "unless" or "until." In ... (R).
Applying our group 3 translation rules strictly, we arrive ...orHow is the group 3 <u>or</u> inclusive?? Doesn't negating one element make it exclusive? For example Jon or Tommy will go to lunch is translated …
How is the group 3 or inclusive?? Doesn't negating ...Different uses for orHi guys, Im wondering if I have the concept of "or" down. So first it can be used as a group 3 indicator to split the sentence into a conditional sta…
... can be used as a group 3 indicator to split the sentence ...Is it worth it to purchase PT C2?I have taken lot of PTs old and new and have all of the recent PTs except for C2 (the previously undisclosed test in Superprep 2). I do not want to l…
... Superprep 2) seems silly unless (group 3 negate sufficient) there is a ...Group 3 indicator QuizI figured I'd post this as a discussion rather than a comment on the quiz page since it will be seen by more. I have 2 questions regarding the quiz. …
I figured I'd post this as a discussion rather than a comment on the quiz page since it will be seen by more. I have 2 questions regarding the quiz. The first is about question one which is A person is not guilty of an offense unless his liability is based ...
