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Confusing Bi-Conditional vs. Not Both in LGHi all, I saw a 7sager already posted a similar question (see https://7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/13716), but I'm less confused about what h…
... how we made the decision in the first place.
... rules was "F is not included in the same group as ... it out as F ----> /N, which is a "not both" rule ... The rule "F is not included in the same group as N ... " spoke to me as a "not both ... -
Or, Not Both (LR And In-Out Games)Can someone please be so kind to read my notes from the particular lessons listed below? I do not know which definitions are correct. Different lesso…
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Not both – negate the Necessary, then contropose. In short, 1 ... B are not selected together.
In-Out Games ( ... selected.
Not both is different because 1, ... -
In out/grouping board set up with complex not both condition?Not sure how to word this but; how do you all set up your in-out board to represent a not both rule when the rule has an and/or statement in it. …
Not sure how to word this ... set up your in-out board to represent a not both rule when the ... rule has an and/or statement in ... If A is in then B and C are out or vise ... put A/B in my out group, but I'm not sure how ... -
Either or/not both rules...how do we know when to represent them on the in out chart?Hi everyone. One theme I've noticed in JY's videos, is that he'll identify a bunch of not both or either or rules, and then chose one to put on the …
... . One theme I've noticed in JY's videos, is that ... 'll identify a bunch of not both or either or rules, and ... the either or, but not the not both rule on the chart. How ... -
Not both and Either or rules in logic gamesJust wanted to clarify something. For both rules in in out games are we able to make the inference that one of the two items has to be in the 'in' g…
Just wanted to clarify something. For both rules in in out games are we able to make the inference that one of the two items has to be in the 'in' group and one in the out group? -
How "OR" functions in In/Out gamesI need confirmation whether my understanding of OR rule is correct. There is a rule in the last game of PT24 that says: G cannot be prescribed i…
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There is a rule in the last game of PT24 ... G cannot be prescribed if both N and U are prescribed ... 3) N and U are both out.
If I ... 3) N and U are both in?
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In/Out games are the bane of my existenceMy biggest issue with logic games right now is timing, which I've had a lot of success in getting down for most game types. The one that I continue t…
... inferences in a timely manner with in/out games. Not so ... with other types, and I'm not sure why in/out ... is the biggest struggle for me. Identifying "not both ... clicking with in/out? I've been drilling in/out games and ... -
Logic Games : [Never Together/Always Together] v. [Not Both] Rule ConfusionHello, During In-Out Games, I am consistently getting confused between the Not Both Rule and the Biconditional (Always Together/Never Together) R…
... /> During In-Out Games, I am consistently getting confused between the Not Both Rule ... the first statement as a Not Both, and the second statement as ... the second one is a Not Both?
2) I ... determine a rule as a [Not Both Rule] or a [Never together ... -
IN/OUT game: finding max/min number of remaining events that could occur?Hello! Does anyone know easy quantitative way for finding maximum/minimum number of remaining events that could occur when certain variables are sele…
... when certain variables are selected in In/Out game?
For ... say there are 10 variables in total: A, B, C, ... either H or I but not both occur
D can ... Suppose that C and E both occur. What is the ... />
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Need clarification on logic 'either or' and 'not both'Hey, guys. I have some conflicting notes on something and was hoping for some clarification. /A --> B and A ---> /B are different t…
... A and B must be in, the other is free to ...
=Not both; only one of A and B can be in, the ... other must be out.
This ... thought I saw something different in one of the explanations. -
Bi-conditional vs Not both rule confusionHi I was just wondering if someone could clear this up for me, because this confusion cost me quite a few points on in-out games, by making me hesit…
... quite a few points on in-out games, by making me ... (2) would be a typical not-both rule.
My ... given the premise K is out ( /K )...
The ... " (meaning M would be in) because its an always apart ... ) where K is in and M is out on one, and ... -
Trouble with In/Out gamesI am having so much trouble getting more than half of In/Out game questions right. I have a moderate grasp on conditional rules and when they trigger…
... getting more than half of In/Out game questions right. I have ... I’m so slow at In/Out games because I can’t ... I get thrown off by “not both” rules. I’m taking the ... -
In/out gamesHey guys, I’ve been practicing in/out games for a while and although I understand most of it, there are a few things that still confuse me enough …
... /> I’ve been practicing in/out games for a while and ... put a place holder in the in group to visualize ... a not both rule so at least 1 has to be out, ... I would put a placeholder in the out group.
... in the in group (/N—>R) and one in the out group ... -
bi-conditionals and in/out gamesSay you have premise that doesn't specifically identify whether members are in or out, but is a bi-conditional like: "Wharton serves on a different …
... specifically identify whether members are in or out, but is a bi ... try to find "or" and "not both" inferences with other members. I ... -
Biconditional Indicator: "either or, but not both"I have struggled with translating biconditionals, so I have been drilling this skill using Manhattan Prep's "5lbs. Book of LSAT Practice Drills." Ba…
... could help me figure it out.
The statement reads ... , sufficient
-"either or, but not both" is a biconditional indicator
However, the answer key in the book says that the ... possible answers?
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Bi-conditionals vs Not both - Please helpI just wanted to clarify when to use not both (F---->/C) vs a bi-conditional (F/C). My current understanding is that if the in/out game has only two …
... to clarify when to use not both (F---->/C) vs a ... understanding is that if the in/out game has only two categories ... be in or out together. Whereas I should use the not both representation when ... because while the variables do not have to be together, there ... -
In/out games bi-conditional confusionHi everyone, So I had a discussion with a fellow 7sager about the conditional relationship v ----> /z and how it pertains to grouping/in/out game…
... how it pertains to grouping/in/out games.
My understanding ... "either v or z, but not both" ?
The other 7sager ... a bi-conditional in a two group, non In/Out game. I was ... can be conceived of as In/Out games -we seem to just ... -
When to chain and when NOT to chain in In/Out Games??Hi! I am confused when I should chain the conditional statements to make inferences and when I shouldn't in the In/Out games. I noticed that when JY …
... and when I shouldn't in the In/Out games. I noticed that ... . So I am not sure when I SHOULD NOT chain? If the ... then why is he not doing it in some while doing it ... it doesnt. So I am not sure what I should do. -
In/Out Game with Multiple Necessary Conditions on Tail of Chain<p>Consider this chain:</p> <p>A —> B—> /C or /D</p> <p>I understand Demorgan's Law Regarding Contrapositives. But how do we work with the 'possibl…
... then "C not D, or D not C, or Not C not D.'. If ... br /> In my mind, negating B requires BOTH Not C and Not D. ... , if I have B? In out questions require us to move ... because we could have not C or not D or neither. ... appears I can count on NOT BOTH C and D.
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having trouble spotting biconditionals on Grouping games and in out games.I know how to translate rules when there is an indicators present but I am having trouble when there isn't an indicator. I confuse not both with alwa…
... an indicator. I confuse not both with always apart sometimes ... on In/out problem set 2:
fenugreek is not included in the ... these as not both. is it because its an in/out game that ...
both are translated as not both rules according to lesson ... -
In Out Games logic gameWhen one of the rules are: if A is selected then B and C are also selected so A--> B and C if you negate(Not select) JUST ONE of B or C n…
... B or C not both, does A also get not selected or do ... both B and C have ... to be not selected for ... A not to be selected? For In Out Games -
Help needed! Any tips on maximum/minimum number-type in/out game questions?Hey LSAT Geeks~My test in 10 days and one of my lingering concerns is about the type of in/out game questions that asks "what's the maximum/minimum n…
... is about the type of in/out game questions that asks " ... of blablabla that can be in or out", or "Which one ... must be in for maximum number of blablabla in/out". It generally ... involves a huge cluster of in/out chains and can be ... , but this type is not uncommon. -
Is there a specific way of drawing a conditional chain for in out games?I find that when I am doing in out games with conditional statement rules, my diagram is logically correct nut looks different than the explanation v…
... that when I am doing in out games with conditional statement rules ... can't seem to figure out how to follow his method ... />
O -> P -> not K -> T
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Diagramming either or and either or but not bothI understand the difference between either or and either or but not both I am confused about the diagramming aspect and not sure if my way is corr…
... or and either or but not both
I am confused ... or but not both
So, I think of this in positive ... /> A -> not B
B -> not A
In this case ... , there no other possibility (both AB ... -
Or Both, not BothIf Jays, Martins, or both are in the forest then so are Harriers. If J--> H If M -> H , according to JY we should split when "or" is in the s…
If Jays, Martins, or both are in the forest then so ... should split when "or" is in the sufficient .
... Another question ....
But not both , or
Alan or ... br />
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In/out game with sub-category general ruleGeneral rule: If a sub category has only one in/out spot, split the game board based on filling that spot, no matter how many worlds comes out of it …
... category has only one in/out spot, split the game ... how many worlds comes out of it most probably ... got serious problem with In/Out game with sub-categories and ... general rules to apply in case I freeze. I ... rule does not apply to it please mention in comment so ... -
Not both ruleIts skipping my mind right now, as I studied it before. But, in grouping games (not in/out) why do we use A -> ~B instead of A <-->~B for rules like …
Its skipping my mind right now, as I studied it before. But, in grouping games (not in/out) why do we use A -> ~B instead of A ~B for rules like A can't be added to the same class as B -
Trouble with In/out and grouping games..So I have been trying to fool-proof the in/out and grouping games in the CC... But I never do good on a game on the first attempt. I either find myse…
... to fool-proof the in/out and grouping games in the CC... But ... myself interpreting rules wrong or not making enough inferences or anything ... explanation I can do it... not sure if this is my ... anxiety kicking in or I just suck at ... -
Translating "Cannot" in In/Out Games and Grouping GamesHi all, I'm struggling with the translation of "cannot." In an In/Out game if A & B "cannot" be together, then: - is A <--> not B and B <--> …
... of "cannot."
In an In/Out game if A & B ... :
- is A not B and B not A (or rather, is ... apart/never together?
In a Grouping game, if A ... only result? - is A ---> not B and B --> A? -
In/ Out Games: Rules Triggered vs Rules IrrelevantNo matter how many videos and notes I take I am still having trouble understanding when the necessary is being satisfied or failed and the same for s…
... not understanding how to recognize the two when it comes to in/out ... br />
In reference to this game, in game board three ... understood why L went in but for Q this ... lost. If K went in then I thought that ... this confusion? I am not sure what I am missing ...
