Got it wrong on first go (D) and right on BR (C) in like 20 seconds. I think my error was assuming that the evidence FOR the conclusion was also part of the answer. The overall conclusion is not "their bones would be broken if they galloped therefore they could not have galloped", it's "They could not gallop"
The answer tried to trip you up with basic word play. They use "unlikely" in the conclusion but the correct AC has likely in it. Every word matters between the stimulus and the question stem.
what does expresses the conclusion drawn by the argument as a whole even mean? Thats what tripped me up i knew it was between C and D, but wasn't sure if we were supposed to incorporate evidence because it says as a whole. Had it just said conclusion i would have easily picked C. I realize now that D is an assumption, but nonetheless, the question wording ive noticed in unnecessarily difficult as if the stimulus isnt already difficult enough smh.
@AlexHaro "Conclusion drawn by the argument as a whole" just means the main conclusion. For each LSAT question type there are multiple ways to word the same question stem. For example, this main conclusion question also could have been worded as "...most accurately expresses the overall conclusion drawn in the argument." or "most accurately expresses the main point." Either way it is always asking for the same thing, you just have to memorize/understand the question stem variations!
I remember doing this one a couple of months ago. I remember getting it wrong, but I did recall the answer. I'm quite pleased with how easy this one felt, and how far I've come with identifying conclusions.
"This, however, is unlikely" is the main conclusion. "This" refers to Apatosaurus being able to gallop. Of the answer choices, obviously C is the best choice, but I wonder if one were to have as two answer choices (A) Some paleontologists are wrong and (B) It is unlikely that Apatosaurus was able to gallop, whether (B) or (A) would be correct. I would say (B), but i can see an argument that the structure of the conclusion is rejection of another claim, not affirmation of a counterclaim.
@Bayside Level 1s and 2s are the bread and butter of our section make ups. if we can accurately get every level 1 and 2 with ease, then half the job is done.
@kythax Not totally lol. Maybe this type of question is where you need more help. You may be good with other question types. Keep practicing. Good luck!
@JoalGue What did you choose as your first answer? I can probably explain why what you did was wrong and then why C is correct if that would help at all!
I genuinely can't see how a mention of modern bones become the overall conclusion.. this conclusión answer choice sounds more like an assumption to me. I'm so confused on this question. Please help
@mrrobotjeremy The trick with this question is that it is telling you that an argument is unlikely to be correct. Therefore, everything that follows is support as to why it is unlikely to be correct making C the main conclusion.
im so annoyed. i chose answer choice C right away and told myself to look back and read it over a little more and dive deeper. ended up choosing answer choice A after wasting all that time. always trust your gut
@DillonDavidesfahani the question only wants the main conclusion, so look for what best matches the statement that indicates it. mentioning the premises won't help
When reviewing if we see this page it shows us the answer which doesnt help if retaking the question since we are already biased having seen the answer.
or!!!!
Just make the arrow go to the question no matter what!!! we should never see the answer first, that just defeats the purpose of the whole thing.
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Got it wrong on first go (D) and right on BR (C) in like 20 seconds. I think my error was assuming that the evidence FOR the conclusion was also part of the answer. The overall conclusion is not "their bones would be broken if they galloped therefore they could not have galloped", it's "They could not gallop"
I can't highlight while I do questions anymore. Is this by design or is something wrong? #help
@mrinaliniv92 They changed it to where you have to highlight the text first with the cursor to then select highlight. Super annoying, I know.
I got this in 44 seconds. I immediately knew what the MC was, what the sub-conclusion and premises were!!! 🔥🔥🔥
I was waiting for the second half of the stimulus to appear again.
this was almost too good to be true
i ALMOST fell for the trap of confusing sub conclusion and main conclusion
I feel like this question is a false sense of security...
This one felt very easy, if only they all felt like this on the real test.
The answer tried to trip you up with basic word play. They use "unlikely" in the conclusion but the correct AC has likely in it. Every word matters between the stimulus and the question stem.
Now I see it. Dang it. It’s really not that hard. Wow
Pointing out the traps has been really helpful. I feel like up until now I always picked the trap answers. This gives me some hope.
I feel really stupid for getting this one wrong haha
@bhabel814 The sub conclusion got me.
-4 seconds baby!!!
Difficulty is lower, I know, but... small victories.
Got it!
what does expresses the conclusion drawn by the argument as a whole even mean? Thats what tripped me up i knew it was between C and D, but wasn't sure if we were supposed to incorporate evidence because it says as a whole. Had it just said conclusion i would have easily picked C. I realize now that D is an assumption, but nonetheless, the question wording ive noticed in unnecessarily difficult as if the stimulus isnt already difficult enough smh.
@AlexHaro "Conclusion drawn by the argument as a whole" just means the main conclusion. For each LSAT question type there are multiple ways to word the same question stem. For example, this main conclusion question also could have been worded as "...most accurately expresses the overall conclusion drawn in the argument." or "most accurately expresses the main point." Either way it is always asking for the same thing, you just have to memorize/understand the question stem variations!
I remember doing this one a couple of months ago. I remember getting it wrong, but I did recall the answer. I'm quite pleased with how easy this one felt, and how far I've come with identifying conclusions.
"This, however, is unlikely" is the main conclusion. "This" refers to Apatosaurus being able to gallop. Of the answer choices, obviously C is the best choice, but I wonder if one were to have as two answer choices (A) Some paleontologists are wrong and (B) It is unlikely that Apatosaurus was able to gallop, whether (B) or (A) would be correct. I would say (B), but i can see an argument that the structure of the conclusion is rejection of another claim, not affirmation of a counterclaim.
me celebrating getting it right, then I see the difficulty level ._.
@Bayside Level 1s and 2s are the bread and butter of our section make ups. if we can accurately get every level 1 and 2 with ease, then half the job is done.
@Bayside Lmao then there's me who gets it wrong and then sees the difficulty level
chat: am i cooked if i picked every answer but the right one even after doing the foundational curriculum...
@kythax Not totally lol. Maybe this type of question is where you need more help. You may be good with other question types. Keep practicing. Good luck!
For those who are just starting practice questions, it is very helpful to start an error journal with these.
got it right ayeee
I'm c]very confused on this overall conclusion. please help
@JoalGue What did you choose as your first answer? I can probably explain why what you did was wrong and then why C is correct if that would help at all!
I genuinely can't see how a mention of modern bones become the overall conclusion.. this conclusión answer choice sounds more like an assumption to me. I'm so confused on this question. Please help
@mrrobotjeremy The trick with this question is that it is telling you that an argument is unlikely to be correct. Therefore, everything that follows is support as to why it is unlikely to be correct making C the main conclusion.
im so annoyed. i chose answer choice C right away and told myself to look back and read it over a little more and dive deeper. ended up choosing answer choice A after wasting all that time. always trust your gut
@DillonDavidesfahani the question only wants the main conclusion, so look for what best matches the statement that indicates it. mentioning the premises won't help
Insead of arrows it should say what is next.
When reviewing if we see this page it shows us the answer which doesnt help if retaking the question since we are already biased having seen the answer.
or!!!!
Just make the arrow go to the question no matter what!!! we should never see the answer first, that just defeats the purpose of the whole thing.