I thought I had this and got cocky and skimmed both the stimulus and the question/answers. Chose A because of this arrogance. Now I feel silly. Lesson learned lol
No worries happens to the best of us. A tip that I have learned from the LSAT trainer is that the author of that book suggested to read through all answer choices and try to eliminate incorrect ones before looking for the correct answer. If you think an answer choice could be correct, keep it and then continue down the list. I find that it works for me but everyone is different
This was very easy and it does not make me feel proud for the fact that I got the right answer within seconds. I am pretty sure that going further more I will face much more complex alternatives that will mess up with my self esteem.
@Bayside Level 1s and 2s are the bread and butter of our section make ups. if we can accurately get every level 1 and 2 with ease, then half the job is done.
Chose A because I felt like C stated "ALL" Paleontologists by not restating the claim in the stimulus of "Some Paleologists". I gotta long way to go I suppose. I see how A is merely a major premise.
#feedback Am I stupid for clicking A, I feel like I read the question a little too fast and forgot that thus is what the other people were saying not her. and I have to remember premise is the set up for the conclusion.
Don't worry dood, I also clicked A and felt dumb. The thing to remember is that this isn't the sort of test where the answers choices are usually dumb and only one choice is overtly valid. I'd say that in most of the practice I've done, many answer choices have felt much more valid and correct-looking than I originally anticipated.
A accurately grasps the main "vibes," AKA the fact that the claim from paleontologists is untrue. It's wrong, and the right answer is C, because the author's main point was actually that the paleontologists got it wrong. A doesn't include any mention of that fact, but C does.
For many, A will be the most important takeaway, containing the best fun fact to, for example, share with others. But that salience doesn't make A the thesis or the main point of the stimulus, any more than the diner orgasm scene from "When Harry met Sally" makes that movie principaly about diner orgasms. The main point of a stimulus is the logical conclusion of it; all the other assertions of the author are ultimately meant to "feed into" it and strengthen it. Such is not the case fo A, because A feeds into some other claims made in the stimulus, such as C, see itself not feeding into A.
@kythax Not totally lol. Maybe this type of question is where you need more help. You may be good with other question types. Keep practicing. Good luck!
im so annoyed. i chose answer choice C right away and told myself to look back and read it over a little more and dive deeper. ended up choosing answer choice A after wasting all that time. always trust your gut
@DillonDavidesfahani the question only wants the main conclusion, so look for what best matches the statement that indicates it. mentioning the premises won't help
"Conclusions" are parts of an argument. An argument is only an argument insofar as it is composed of a premise and a conclusion. A conclusion is only a conclusion insofar as it is being supported by another statement, i.e., the premise.
The answer tried to trip you up with basic word play. They use "unlikely" in the conclusion but the correct AC has likely in it. Every word matters between the stimulus and the question stem.
I remember doing this one a couple of months ago. I remember getting it wrong, but I did recall the answer. I'm quite pleased with how easy this one felt, and how far I've come with identifying conclusions.
the new curriculum is so much more helpful. in the nicest way possible, the previous curriculum explanations were so disjointed and confusing. these explanations are calm and make so much sense.
what does expresses the conclusion drawn by the argument as a whole even mean? Thats what tripped me up i knew it was between C and D, but wasn't sure if we were supposed to incorporate evidence because it says as a whole. Had it just said conclusion i would have easily picked C. I realize now that D is an assumption, but nonetheless, the question wording ive noticed in unnecessarily difficult as if the stimulus isnt already difficult enough smh.
@AlexHaro "Conclusion drawn by the argument as a whole" just means the main conclusion. For each LSAT question type there are multiple ways to word the same question stem. For example, this main conclusion question also could have been worded as "...most accurately expresses the overall conclusion drawn in the argument." or "most accurately expresses the main point." Either way it is always asking for the same thing, you just have to memorize/understand the question stem variations!
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thank god we're in LR now, much more interactive. the foundations lessons were soo hard to get through so longggg. thank you :)
The logic portion of Foundations was crazy hard, especially without videos! The video explanations are really helpful and detailed.
these new lessons are killer
This one felt very easy, if only they all felt like this on the real test.
Wow, I have not been attempting LR questions correctly lol.
me too lmao
I thought I had this and got cocky and skimmed both the stimulus and the question/answers. Chose A because of this arrogance. Now I feel silly. Lesson learned lol
Guilty here as well.
Same here haha.
No worries happens to the best of us. A tip that I have learned from the LSAT trainer is that the author of that book suggested to read through all answer choices and try to eliminate incorrect ones before looking for the correct answer. If you think an answer choice could be correct, keep it and then continue down the list. I find that it works for me but everyone is different
-4 seconds baby!!!
Difficulty is lower, I know, but... small victories.
I feel really stupid for getting this one wrong haha
@bhabel814 The sub conclusion got me.
This was very easy and it does not make me feel proud for the fact that I got the right answer within seconds. I am pretty sure that going further more I will face much more complex alternatives that will mess up with my self esteem.
me celebrating getting it right, then I see the difficulty level ._.
@Bayside Level 1s and 2s are the bread and butter of our section make ups. if we can accurately get every level 1 and 2 with ease, then half the job is done.
@Bayside Lmao then there's me who gets it wrong and then sees the difficulty level
Pointing out the traps has been really helpful. I feel like up until now I always picked the trap answers. This gives me some hope.
Everyone saying it’s easy while i was STRUGGLING
Chose A because I felt like C stated "ALL" Paleontologists by not restating the claim in the stimulus of "Some Paleologists". I gotta long way to go I suppose. I see how A is merely a major premise.
Omg same.. I was so irritated when I finished blind review because I was SO confident in my answer lol
#feedback Am I stupid for clicking A, I feel like I read the question a little too fast and forgot that thus is what the other people were saying not her. and I have to remember premise is the set up for the conclusion.
Don't worry dood, I also clicked A and felt dumb. The thing to remember is that this isn't the sort of test where the answers choices are usually dumb and only one choice is overtly valid. I'd say that in most of the practice I've done, many answer choices have felt much more valid and correct-looking than I originally anticipated.
A accurately grasps the main "vibes," AKA the fact that the claim from paleontologists is untrue. It's wrong, and the right answer is C, because the author's main point was actually that the paleontologists got it wrong. A doesn't include any mention of that fact, but C does.
for those who picked A, can you pls reply using the wrong answer journal template. thanks so much itd be very helpful
For many, A will be the most important takeaway, containing the best fun fact to, for example, share with others. But that salience doesn't make A the thesis or the main point of the stimulus, any more than the diner orgasm scene from "When Harry met Sally" makes that movie principaly about diner orgasms. The main point of a stimulus is the logical conclusion of it; all the other assertions of the author are ultimately meant to "feed into" it and strengthen it. Such is not the case fo A, because A feeds into some other claims made in the stimulus, such as C, see itself not feeding into A.
Do not feel like it. I did too.!
chat: am i cooked if i picked every answer but the right one even after doing the foundational curriculum...
@kythax Not totally lol. Maybe this type of question is where you need more help. You may be good with other question types. Keep practicing. Good luck!
im so annoyed. i chose answer choice C right away and told myself to look back and read it over a little more and dive deeper. ended up choosing answer choice A after wasting all that time. always trust your gut
@DillonDavidesfahani the question only wants the main conclusion, so look for what best matches the statement that indicates it. mentioning the premises won't help
I was waiting for the second half of the stimulus to appear again.
Now I see it. Dang it. It’s really not that hard. Wow
For those who are just starting practice questions, it is very helpful to start an error journal with these.
got it right ayeee
#help Does conclusion = main argument
Yes!
"Conclusions" are parts of an argument. An argument is only an argument insofar as it is composed of a premise and a conclusion. A conclusion is only a conclusion insofar as it is being supported by another statement, i.e., the premise.
The answer tried to trip you up with basic word play. They use "unlikely" in the conclusion but the correct AC has likely in it. Every word matters between the stimulus and the question stem.
I remember doing this one a couple of months ago. I remember getting it wrong, but I did recall the answer. I'm quite pleased with how easy this one felt, and how far I've come with identifying conclusions.
the new curriculum is so much more helpful. in the nicest way possible, the previous curriculum explanations were so disjointed and confusing. these explanations are calm and make so much sense.
I feel like this question is a false sense of security...
what does expresses the conclusion drawn by the argument as a whole even mean? Thats what tripped me up i knew it was between C and D, but wasn't sure if we were supposed to incorporate evidence because it says as a whole. Had it just said conclusion i would have easily picked C. I realize now that D is an assumption, but nonetheless, the question wording ive noticed in unnecessarily difficult as if the stimulus isnt already difficult enough smh.
@AlexHaro "Conclusion drawn by the argument as a whole" just means the main conclusion. For each LSAT question type there are multiple ways to word the same question stem. For example, this main conclusion question also could have been worded as "...most accurately expresses the overall conclusion drawn in the argument." or "most accurately expresses the main point." Either way it is always asking for the same thing, you just have to memorize/understand the question stem variations!