I got a 5/5, but I still feel that number 5's argument as rather weak. I.e., the support was weak. I noticed that others here feel similarly, so I ask that an instructor explain this to me. Either to inform me that I am wrong and explain why, or to validate my claim and explain why.
You're doing amazing and you got this! Believe in yourself and give yourself props every time you show any signs of progress; advocate for yourself fiercely!
I got 4/5 because I failed to realize that a premise can have more than 1 phrase in it. After realizing that, all was good. I think that finding an indicator word would be the way to go. Square 1 for identifying everything
my method of quick scanning is find an indicator word that could be a possibility of a conclusion/ statement being supported by other statements. then with that option i do the why is this true? test and that seems to help me.
so its a 2 step process.
and while im looking through the "why is this true" sentences i can find other possible conclusions (if needed).
5/5! i always like to go through line by line and ask "ok why" or "this is happening because of this" referencing other parts of the argument. the "why should i believe this" method has been so helpful!
As I did not get all correctly, what is a recommendation for taking notes along the way? I find that watching the videos makes more sense and understanding, but does anyone else note take throughout? If you do, what are some tips on how you note take? This is my 1st time on 7sage, so just learning better ways to understand too! Thanks!
@isabellagirjikian I watch through the video or read through the transcript completely first and then I write down key points from memory. I also like to make flow charts for them because it helps train your thinking process. I try to summarize the info into questions that I can ask while reading prompts. Then when I get to practice problems and drills that are untimed, I follow the flow chart and ask the questions. I, personally, also found it helpful to write out more than the untimed drills ask you to do. For this set, I wrote a summary of the prompt in a simple concepts (I find this helpful when the wording is tricky). Then I identified the conclusion, premise, and any assumptions I could think of. It is more time consuming, but gets faster as you build "muscle memory".
@jjmaiteh are those two not one is the same ? premise being a statement that supports another statement. Correct me if I'm wrong as I'm still learning too.
@jjmaiteh Do you mean why those are premises and not conclusions? Premise and support in my understanding are the same, premise supports the conclusion.
Is it correct that on the LSAT, what makes something a conclusion is the author's intent to prove it, rather than just the logical relationship between statements?
In other words, does a word like "therefore" not just indicate a conclusion, but actually create the conclusion by demonstrating the author's intent to argue for that claim?
For example, without "therefore" or similar indicators, a passage might just be presenting facts with no argumentative structure—even if we could theoretically invent premises that would support one of those facts.
For the two i didn't answer or missed, I was analyzing the strength of the argument instead of just identifying the premise and conclusion. I need to follow instructions better
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5/5!
5/5, thank goodness. I was worried if I was second guessing stuff but it looks like I did well
5/5 lessss gooooo
too easy rip
5/5 yuhh
5/5 LFG!
I got a 5/5, but I still feel that number 5's argument as rather weak. I.e., the support was weak. I noticed that others here feel similarly, so I ask that an instructor explain this to me. Either to inform me that I am wrong and explain why, or to validate my claim and explain why.
Big preesh if you can help.
5/5 lets go!!!!
4/5 - but I'm happy given I had a 137 on my LSAT diagnostic so I'll take what I can get. Giggidy.
5/5 ayyy!!
5/5, almost doubted myself as this one I understood a lot quicker than past summary blocks
I always get so excited when I get these right haha!! 5/5!!
5/5, lets gooo! We got this yall
5/5!!!
You're doing amazing and you got this! Believe in yourself and give yourself props every time you show any signs of progress; advocate for yourself fiercely!
I got 4/5 because I failed to realize that a premise can have more than 1 phrase in it. After realizing that, all was good. I think that finding an indicator word would be the way to go. Square 1 for identifying everything
my method of quick scanning is find an indicator word that could be a possibility of a conclusion/ statement being supported by other statements. then with that option i do the why is this true? test and that seems to help me.
so its a 2 step process.
and while im looking through the "why is this true" sentences i can find other possible conclusions (if needed).
5/5! i always like to go through line by line and ask "ok why" or "this is happening because of this" referencing other parts of the argument. the "why should i believe this" method has been so helpful!
As I did not get all correctly, what is a recommendation for taking notes along the way? I find that watching the videos makes more sense and understanding, but does anyone else note take throughout? If you do, what are some tips on how you note take? This is my 1st time on 7sage, so just learning better ways to understand too! Thanks!
@isabellagirjikian I write down the key ideas from the conclusions at the end of videos. Also key terms throughout lessons. I hope this helps!
@MarissaTrott thank you, it does!
@isabellagirjikian I watch through the video or read through the transcript completely first and then I write down key points from memory. I also like to make flow charts for them because it helps train your thinking process. I try to summarize the info into questions that I can ask while reading prompts. Then when I get to practice problems and drills that are untimed, I follow the flow chart and ask the questions. I, personally, also found it helpful to write out more than the untimed drills ask you to do. For this set, I wrote a summary of the prompt in a simple concepts (I find this helpful when the wording is tricky). Then I identified the conclusion, premise, and any assumptions I could think of. It is more time consuming, but gets faster as you build "muscle memory".
Hope this works out and is helpful :)
5/5 lets gooooo
i finally got something right! 5/5 wooooo hooo me!
5/5 lets goooo
can someone explain why these two sentences are part of the premise and not support.
Gerald cannot distinguish between green and brown.
By dividing its attention between its freight and commuter customers, a railroad serves neither particularly well.
@jjmaiteh are those two not one is the same ? premise being a statement that supports another statement. Correct me if I'm wrong as I'm still learning too.
@jjmaiteh Do you mean why those are premises and not conclusions? Premise and support in my understanding are the same, premise supports the conclusion.
@jjmaiteh A premise is a statement which supports another statement. The premise is the support
Is it correct that on the LSAT, what makes something a conclusion is the author's intent to prove it, rather than just the logical relationship between statements?
In other words, does a word like "therefore" not just indicate a conclusion, but actually create the conclusion by demonstrating the author's intent to argue for that claim?
For example, without "therefore" or similar indicators, a passage might just be presenting facts with no argumentative structure—even if we could theoretically invent premises that would support one of those facts.
@arose Yes, that's correct. Sometimes the logical relationship between statements indicates an intent to support one by the other, too.
For the two i didn't answer or missed, I was analyzing the strength of the argument instead of just identifying the premise and conclusion. I need to follow instructions better