#feedback Originally, I was frustrated with the amount of time JY put into alternating the ACs/Question types to show how the question could work given different scenarios. It just seemed too confusing and a waste of time. After reviewing this question, I now see why its important to view the questions in different ways. Understanding the unity in logical reasoning questions makes for better overall understanding. All of the question types are linked in terms of thought process in some way shape or form. It may seem confusing at first, but once it clicks--it clicks, and you likely will start relying less on identifying question types and simply just applying, well--logical reasoning!
like seriously, please bring the "all AC at once" back, cause i understood why D was correct (somewhat) and now going through other AC, i forget what was the reasoning for D? like come on mannn, i am so mad. since they started doing that, i am not learning anything
I dislike this question. Interpreting bias in this way seems a bit thick. Just because one side of an issue enjoys more support does not allow a news provider to cover or give exposure to that one side of the issue disproportionately and remain bias free. Imagine a panel debate with 4 on one side and 1 on the other of an issue. Even if these numbers were representative of the public, surely no reasonable person could conclude that the debate structure is unbiased. Bias relates to the evenhandedness of the coverage of any given topic, and a reasonable evaluation of its support, not how many supporters it touts. An argument is no less if true if it has 1 or 1 million supporters. The grand leap of an assumption that this question requires to reason that proportionally being similar or larger in the general population than in the interviews is any sort of weakener to the claim of bias is absurd. This question stupidly equates bias and representativeness. D is still correct, as all others are worse, but it is a bad question pure and simple.
In the end I chose D but doesn't C seem like a potential explanation too? Maybe the news station aired more interviews with people against the new freeway because those people gave more emotional interviews, which made for better TV. So C does weaken the argument. However, D is right because it weakens the argument more.
I'm still confused on the difference between Weaken and RRE questions. They keep trying to highlight a difference and I don't quite understand it. If anyone could explain that would be great!
Prior to your explanations of how to attack "weakens" question, I was horrible at them. I'm much better now. This explanation was better by the way. Showing how to determine the weaken answer, and THEN showing relation/conversion to RRE flowed better. (IMO)
Reasoning is the logic or rationale behind the argument's conclusion.
This is the “because” part of the argument—the connection between the evidence and the claim.
Example:
"Online classes lead to higher test scores because students have more time to study."
The reasoning is that more time to study leads to better performance.
2. Result (What is the argument trying to prove?)
The result is the conclusion or outcome that the argument is attempting to explain or justify.
In most cases, it’s the claim the author is making.
Example:
"Therefore, online classes are more effective than in-person classes." The result is that online classes lead to higher scores and are therefore better.
3. Evidence (What supports the conclusion?)
Evidence is the data, studies, or observations the argument uses to support the reasoning and conclusion.
This is the “because of” part, which could be facts, examples, or statistics.
Example:
"A recent study showed that students in online classes scored 10% higher on average than those in in-person classes." The evidence is the study showing higher test scores in online classes.
I initially thought A, but in my blind review, I saw the appeal of D, and though still skeptical, chose D.
My thing with A though is that I assumed that because most ppl watched the program and were aware of the controversy b4 hand, they would've formed their own opinions, and wouldn't be swayed by the TV program... however, typing this out now, I see that these were a lot of assumptions being made lol, and that A has nothing to with the actual TV show itself... Thanks for coming to my TedTalk of my brain thought process I guess haha :)
Continuously refereeing to a different question type, which requires a different strategy, does makes this new type of questions much more confusing and difficult to resolve.
I am having a hard time changing my thought process with answering weaken questions. I'm hoping with practice I can get better, but it seems like there's a long road ahead!
So I accidentally read the question wrong and I chose E because I felt like it strengthen the argument I thought the question said strengthen if I chose E would that mean that that is what strengthens it the most, if this question would've been switched? Also, if I chose E and knew that it was a weekend question would that mean that I would automatically identify that this is strengthening the argument, so I need to cancel it out?#feedback#feedback#feedback
Could you also do negation tests on answers to see if they are correct/incorrect? For example, negating E would translate the AC into saying that the business interests would not be harmed by the freeway's construction. This negation makes AC E weaken the conclusion, and therefore, you know that AC E in its regular, non-negated form is incorrect. I know this seems completely backward, especially if you can read AC E as it is and immediately understand that it doesn't weaken the conclusion. But I've used this method for some more complex questions, and it has helped me become more confident in my answers.
Could we have a lesson on different assumptions which are valid for this type of question and which are not valid for it? because I did not choose D because I thought it was making a huge assumption about what happened before. #Help
I think I am in the boat now of overthinking the answers. I do really well on the harder difficulty questions for this type but now that I revisit the lessons that have more entry level ones, I struggle to pick the right answer for some reason. I think I am overthinking the question and answers. Suggestions for not thinking lol?
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im terrible at these
#feedback Originally, I was frustrated with the amount of time JY put into alternating the ACs/Question types to show how the question could work given different scenarios. It just seemed too confusing and a waste of time. After reviewing this question, I now see why its important to view the questions in different ways. Understanding the unity in logical reasoning questions makes for better overall understanding. All of the question types are linked in terms of thought process in some way shape or form. It may seem confusing at first, but once it clicks--it clicks, and you likely will start relying less on identifying question types and simply just applying, well--logical reasoning!
Isnt D saying the same thing as the conclusion?? I am so lost
like seriously, please bring the "all AC at once" back, cause i understood why D was correct (somewhat) and now going through other AC, i forget what was the reasoning for D? like come on mannn, i am so mad. since they started doing that, i am not learning anything
I fell for E because I thought that it was the businesses who were biased and not the news station but I guess it was an unreasonable assumption
I dislike this question. Interpreting bias in this way seems a bit thick. Just because one side of an issue enjoys more support does not allow a news provider to cover or give exposure to that one side of the issue disproportionately and remain bias free. Imagine a panel debate with 4 on one side and 1 on the other of an issue. Even if these numbers were representative of the public, surely no reasonable person could conclude that the debate structure is unbiased. Bias relates to the evenhandedness of the coverage of any given topic, and a reasonable evaluation of its support, not how many supporters it touts. An argument is no less if true if it has 1 or 1 million supporters. The grand leap of an assumption that this question requires to reason that proportionally being similar or larger in the general population than in the interviews is any sort of weakener to the claim of bias is absurd. This question stupidly equates bias and representativeness. D is still correct, as all others are worse, but it is a bad question pure and simple.
In the end I chose D but doesn't C seem like a potential explanation too? Maybe the news station aired more interviews with people against the new freeway because those people gave more emotional interviews, which made for better TV. So C does weaken the argument. However, D is right because it weakens the argument more.
I'm still confused on the difference between Weaken and RRE questions. They keep trying to highlight a difference and I don't quite understand it. If anyone could explain that would be great!
Prior to your explanations of how to attack "weakens" question, I was horrible at them. I'm much better now. This explanation was better by the way. Showing how to determine the weaken answer, and THEN showing relation/conversion to RRE flowed better. (IMO)
Reasoning (Why is the argument making the claim?)
Reasoning is the logic or rationale behind the argument's conclusion.
This is the “because” part of the argument—the connection between the evidence and the claim.
Example:
"Online classes lead to higher test scores because students have more time to study."
The reasoning is that more time to study leads to better performance.
2. Result (What is the argument trying to prove?)
The result is the conclusion or outcome that the argument is attempting to explain or justify.
In most cases, it’s the claim the author is making.
Example:
"Therefore, online classes are more effective than in-person classes." The result is that online classes lead to higher scores and are therefore better.
3. Evidence (What supports the conclusion?)
Evidence is the data, studies, or observations the argument uses to support the reasoning and conclusion.
This is the “because of” part, which could be facts, examples, or statistics.
Example:
"A recent study showed that students in online classes scored 10% higher on average than those in in-person classes." The evidence is the study showing higher test scores in online classes.
Got it right but it took me a little over 2 min.
I initially thought A, but in my blind review, I saw the appeal of D, and though still skeptical, chose D.
My thing with A though is that I assumed that because most ppl watched the program and were aware of the controversy b4 hand, they would've formed their own opinions, and wouldn't be swayed by the TV program... however, typing this out now, I see that these were a lot of assumptions being made lol, and that A has nothing to with the actual TV show itself... Thanks for coming to my TedTalk of my brain thought process I guess haha :)
I asked myslef, " What if they interviewed too many people against it?"
This anticipation allowed me to find correct answer (D).
Continuously refereeing to a different question type, which requires a different strategy, does makes this new type of questions much more confusing and difficult to resolve.
I am having a hard time changing my thought process with answering weaken questions. I'm hoping with practice I can get better, but it seems like there's a long road ahead!
So I accidentally read the question wrong and I chose E because I felt like it strengthen the argument I thought the question said strengthen if I chose E would that mean that that is what strengthens it the most, if this question would've been switched? Also, if I chose E and knew that it was a weekend question would that mean that I would automatically identify that this is strengthening the argument, so I need to cancel it out?#feedback#feedback#feedback
Could you also do negation tests on answers to see if they are correct/incorrect? For example, negating E would translate the AC into saying that the business interests would not be harmed by the freeway's construction. This negation makes AC E weaken the conclusion, and therefore, you know that AC E in its regular, non-negated form is incorrect. I know this seems completely backward, especially if you can read AC E as it is and immediately understand that it doesn't weaken the conclusion. But I've used this method for some more complex questions, and it has helped me become more confident in my answers.
Anyone else here taking the November test and feeling so behind?
this is the first time my second guessing paid off because i picked D on the blind review
Could we have a lesson on different assumptions which are valid for this type of question and which are not valid for it? because I did not choose D because I thought it was making a huge assumption about what happened before. #Help
I think I am in the boat now of overthinking the answers. I do really well on the harder difficulty questions for this type but now that I revisit the lessons that have more entry level ones, I struggle to pick the right answer for some reason. I think I am overthinking the question and answers. Suggestions for not thinking lol?
What?!!? How is D the right answer???
The stimulus' last sentences claims that the television station is biased, but the explanation for this question does not. That confused me a little
oooookkkay?
"hopefully you got this right" no JY, I didn't...