This is why their original scores aren't included. I have a strong feeling the scores she didn't like were in the 160s, which isn't very motivating for people in the 140s and 150s.
exactly! i noticed this in another motivation video too, they always mention how other people told them their score was still "great" and not to take it again... they usually don't say that to people who score less than a 160 :/
Getting there. I started out at 149. After 2.5 months I'm at 158. Planning to take the LSAT in August and hoping to test at 165 before then. Let's do it. 😌
probably because her original score might have still been subjectively high like a 160 and she doesnt want to discourage people scoring low whos target is 160
I've never taken a proctored online exam before, and maybe this is a silly suggestion but I'd appreciate it if 7Sage could make a video on what it's like to take an online proctored LSAT test (if they haven't already, im still reviewing curriculum lol)
There will be a proctor that you can't see, but they can see you. It's not as formal as you would think it is, at least in my experience it wasn't. They make you show the entire room you're in, your surroundings, and material, including every piece of scratch paper. They will take over your laptop for a few minutes to change some settings and ensure there's no cheating. You can talk to the proctor when you are not taking the test, and they can respond. There's an optional break in between sections two and three, I think the actual time is 10-15 mins, but my proctor took almost half an hour to return. Overall, it's a bit of a weird experience and I would also recommend you mimic the test conditions. I was hyperaware that someone was watching me, which kind of distracted me the first time I took the test.
I’m not too sure, but I’m taking the test at a testing center in two weeks. I’m assuming it’s similar to taking the sat/act, but I can confirm this once I take it, if you’d like.
No there is not someone watching you remotely if you take the test in the test center. I took the August test and at the Prometric Center there were employees who check you in, walk you into the test room, and can monitor you while taking the test through a window/by walking around in the room.
These motivational breaks genuinely suck and make me, and surely others, feel like crap. Every time I see one I hope it's a person who ACTUALLY wasn't doing good on their LSAT, not making a good enough score to get into Law School and their journey of how they did. For instance I'm talking scores below 150 (it's pretty general knowledge that having below a 150 makes it harder to get into Law School, no matter the GPA. Think, if I have a 145 LSAT but a 3.8 GPA do you think I'll get in? NO!! Because on the LSAT I showed little to no, or at least not enough ability to be able to think like a lawyer, which is the point of the test). But it's always someone who "wasn't doing as well as they'd hoped" GTFOH!!! We know good and well you're not telling us what you're actual score was is because you scored somewhere around 155-164 (Lets say I'm her and have a 158 and a 3.3 GPA. The majority of Law Schools will probably take her. Maybe no T-14 but she will get into one.) She also stated that people around her were telling her to stop because her score was more than enough. Now compare which one of those people needs more "motivation" the person who still can't get into any school cause they can't get over the 150 hump, or her who already has a near definite chance at getting into multiple Law Schools. And not to say that those people don't need motivation, we all do!! But for the most of us here, we probably aren't making scores where people are telling us to stop or don't worry about it cause we already have a good score, if anything, those people need less if any motivation at all. And it makes us not so smart guys kinda feel crappy because where's the motivation? We can't relate to someone and probably don't want to listen and receive motivation from someone who wasn't in the same boat (sure we might each be in our own similar canoe, but the only thing I have is a wooden paddle and she has a fully functioning motor). What would most likely be the best way to motivate the people in this course who REALLY need it would be to have people who were making closer to 140's, and their story of how they went from that to say maybe a 155+. That's motivation. How did THAT girl do it? That's who most of us want to hear from. Not the girl that was already making well enough to get into a top 50 school but "just knew they could do better" and then end up making less than 10 points from a "perfect" score. That's just not realistic for MOST of us on this course and on the LSAT in general.
I agree with you!!! I want to see people who say their scores; for example, I want to know that on your first LSAT, you got a 145, and then you went up to a 160 on the fourth one. When I hit my goal of 165, you can betttt I will be telling everyone studying for the LSAT I got a 140 on my first LSAT and a 165 on my final one!!!
apologies for the heated comment. Not meant to tear down the people who are doing good and just wanna do better. Just meant to show 7sage that just because someone's score isn't crazy good at first look, doesn't mean they don't have any motivation to offer to most of us. But it would be nice to see a testimony from someone a little closer to the rest of us. Or who knows... maybe no such person exists which is not motivational at all :(
Thank you for being honest! There certainly is not enough representation for people who score below 150s. There are countless stories of people already in the 150s who study for a few months and get 160-170s. The LSAT can be a very discouraging and isolating experience.
I hear you. I recommend listening to 7Sage podcast S01 Ep 17 with Anthony. His initial score was 148 and he eventually got accepted into UCLA and Georgetown. It was a more realistic kind of motivation, in my opinion. Hope this helps and good luck :)
Huge kudos to the 7sage team for these motivational breaks--every one of them I've seen so far has been incredibly inspiring and really helpful in terms of mindset. Absolutely love them.
this is frustrating as I got a 141 on my first ever LSAT and I know damn well she probably got at least a 160. Cant get into any law school with my score, while shes out here scoring fine and could probably get into a few law schools at least with her first score. I am trying to see the motivation but it would help to see someone with more realistic goals ;'(
@kimwexler Everyone has to start somewhere! The discrepancy could be that she took some classes in college that helped her develop a certain way of thinking that helped her score decently high for her first test. As long as you keep practicing and trying to get better, you have it in you to be a high scorer! There's so many posts on Reddit that help with motivation from people who went from 120's to 170's. Keep practicing and MOST importantly believe in yourself, you'll get there :)
@kimwexler As someone who scored lower than you on their first LSAT, I agree that these videos are stupid. They only give hope to those who have a score of like 155 without studying.
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I really wish these had their original scores in the video. Going from a 145-174 is a lot different than going from a 166-174, for example.
This is why their original scores aren't included. I have a strong feeling the scores she didn't like were in the 160s, which isn't very motivating for people in the 140s and 150s.
exactly! i noticed this in another motivation video too, they always mention how other people told them their score was still "great" and not to take it again... they usually don't say that to people who score less than a 160 :/
Getting there. I started out at 149. After 2.5 months I'm at 158. Planning to take the LSAT in August and hoping to test at 165 before then. Let's do it. 😌
@tswalker83 good luck!
I wish they would talk about what their scores were along the way, not just the final “174 score.” It’s more inspiring to know where they started.
not if her first score was a 160 LOLLLLL
Very true lol. I wish there were more stories about people who started with a low score.
Love the motivational pieces, I just wonder why no one shares the original score?
probably because her original score might have still been subjectively high like a 160 and she doesnt want to discourage people scoring low whos target is 160
GETTING ME FIRED UP. LFGGGGGGGG. WE GONNA MAKE IT
real
I love the motivation breaks! We should have more! Haha
I think this discouraged me more
finally the comment i was looking for
LMAO
@reemguirgis215 LMFAOOO same these motivational videos are not the best. The last one had an above average starting cold diagnostic.
Bro im just trying to reach above 155 lmao
Is that Joji vlogs??
I want to hear success stories from individuals from underserved communities with challenges
You have absolutely zero information about her community or challenges.
You really are a killjoy
We can do hard things :,)
And we're in it together <3 !!
I've never taken a proctored online exam before, and maybe this is a silly suggestion but I'd appreciate it if 7Sage could make a video on what it's like to take an online proctored LSAT test (if they haven't already, im still reviewing curriculum lol)
Yes I agree! It would be nice to know what to expect.
There will be a proctor that you can't see, but they can see you. It's not as formal as you would think it is, at least in my experience it wasn't. They make you show the entire room you're in, your surroundings, and material, including every piece of scratch paper. They will take over your laptop for a few minutes to change some settings and ensure there's no cheating. You can talk to the proctor when you are not taking the test, and they can respond. There's an optional break in between sections two and three, I think the actual time is 10-15 mins, but my proctor took almost half an hour to return. Overall, it's a bit of a weird experience and I would also recommend you mimic the test conditions. I was hyperaware that someone was watching me, which kind of distracted me the first time I took the test.
i didn't proofread this cause I'm tired, btw.
I second that
Great point, would be incredibly useful!
#feedback
Does someone watch you remotely if you take the test at a testing center?
thank you so much!
That's such a sweet offer, thank you! No worries; @carleyvillarose clarified everything :)
I’m not too sure, but I’m taking the test at a testing center in two weeks. I’m assuming it’s similar to taking the sat/act, but I can confirm this once I take it, if you’d like.
No there is not someone watching you remotely if you take the test in the test center. I took the August test and at the Prometric Center there were employees who check you in, walk you into the test room, and can monitor you while taking the test through a window/by walking around in the room.
Not motivating if we dont know the original score.
For real. "Underperform" is so subject; it could mean an awful score all around, or just something below the T14's standards for admission.
I hope to be making one of these videos soon!
Why dont we ever hear stories about people that put in the work and got the score the first time. I dont want to take this test many times
likewise, or take more multiple gap years
We've only heard two stories so far, though.
Three
@gusmadero03513 Sorry I couldn't stop laughing!! Good point tho
As another user said, these videos would be so much more effective and inspiring if the narrator shared their scores along the way.
I think in the first one, the guy said he scored in the 140s at first.
Shoutout to everyone else studying for the LSAT while working or going to school full time. It’s not easy, but we can all do hard things!
These motivational breaks genuinely suck and make me, and surely others, feel like crap. Every time I see one I hope it's a person who ACTUALLY wasn't doing good on their LSAT, not making a good enough score to get into Law School and their journey of how they did. For instance I'm talking scores below 150 (it's pretty general knowledge that having below a 150 makes it harder to get into Law School, no matter the GPA. Think, if I have a 145 LSAT but a 3.8 GPA do you think I'll get in? NO!! Because on the LSAT I showed little to no, or at least not enough ability to be able to think like a lawyer, which is the point of the test). But it's always someone who "wasn't doing as well as they'd hoped" GTFOH!!! We know good and well you're not telling us what you're actual score was is because you scored somewhere around 155-164 (Lets say I'm her and have a 158 and a 3.3 GPA. The majority of Law Schools will probably take her. Maybe no T-14 but she will get into one.) She also stated that people around her were telling her to stop because her score was more than enough. Now compare which one of those people needs more "motivation" the person who still can't get into any school cause they can't get over the 150 hump, or her who already has a near definite chance at getting into multiple Law Schools. And not to say that those people don't need motivation, we all do!! But for the most of us here, we probably aren't making scores where people are telling us to stop or don't worry about it cause we already have a good score, if anything, those people need less if any motivation at all. And it makes us not so smart guys kinda feel crappy because where's the motivation? We can't relate to someone and probably don't want to listen and receive motivation from someone who wasn't in the same boat (sure we might each be in our own similar canoe, but the only thing I have is a wooden paddle and she has a fully functioning motor). What would most likely be the best way to motivate the people in this course who REALLY need it would be to have people who were making closer to 140's, and their story of how they went from that to say maybe a 155+. That's motivation. How did THAT girl do it? That's who most of us want to hear from. Not the girl that was already making well enough to get into a top 50 school but "just knew they could do better" and then end up making less than 10 points from a "perfect" score. That's just not realistic for MOST of us on this course and on the LSAT in general.
I agree with you!!! I want to see people who say their scores; for example, I want to know that on your first LSAT, you got a 145, and then you went up to a 160 on the fourth one. When I hit my goal of 165, you can betttt I will be telling everyone studying for the LSAT I got a 140 on my first LSAT and a 165 on my final one!!!
apologies for the heated comment. Not meant to tear down the people who are doing good and just wanna do better. Just meant to show 7sage that just because someone's score isn't crazy good at first look, doesn't mean they don't have any motivation to offer to most of us. But it would be nice to see a testimony from someone a little closer to the rest of us. Or who knows... maybe no such person exists which is not motivational at all :(
Thank you for being honest! There certainly is not enough representation for people who score below 150s. There are countless stories of people already in the 150s who study for a few months and get 160-170s. The LSAT can be a very discouraging and isolating experience.
I hear you. I recommend listening to 7Sage podcast S01 Ep 17 with Anthony. His initial score was 148 and he eventually got accepted into UCLA and Georgetown. It was a more realistic kind of motivation, in my opinion. Hope this helps and good luck :)
Whenever I hear that people took the test so many times I just think of all the money wasted! I do not have a safety net this thick haha
@QuintonWThiessen fee waivers ><
Why do these videos never include the first scores, only the last one? That would be more helpful
@smcat probably because their first scores we not even "bad" lol. They probably started off with like a 155, which by no means AT ALL, is a bad score.
RELEASE THE FIRST 3 SCORES !!!
@BOBLOBLAW Right! I'm like.. what did she get the first three times?!
the hardest part for me, to be able to read section 4 with focus, because i get tired after questions
Huge kudos to the 7sage team for these motivational breaks--every one of them I've seen so far has been incredibly inspiring and really helpful in terms of mindset. Absolutely love them.
2 years total? so far i studied 2 months, then paused for 5 months, then studied for 3 months ...........
this is frustrating as I got a 141 on my first ever LSAT and I know damn well she probably got at least a 160. Cant get into any law school with my score, while shes out here scoring fine and could probably get into a few law schools at least with her first score. I am trying to see the motivation but it would help to see someone with more realistic goals ;'(
@kimwexler Everyone has to start somewhere! The discrepancy could be that she took some classes in college that helped her develop a certain way of thinking that helped her score decently high for her first test. As long as you keep practicing and trying to get better, you have it in you to be a high scorer! There's so many posts on Reddit that help with motivation from people who went from 120's to 170's. Keep practicing and MOST importantly believe in yourself, you'll get there :)
@kimwexler As someone who scored lower than you on their first LSAT, I agree that these videos are stupid. They only give hope to those who have a score of like 155 without studying.
crazy jumpscare if you watch this on dark mode
@HenryLarkin I was just about to say this XD