I think what's helping me with accuracy with these question types (whether S or W )is forgetting about that clock in the corner. Regardless of how long the stim and each answer choice is, I've made up in my mind that I WILL get this answer right regardless of how much time I spend. Reading carefully without putting 'pressure' has helped. Wishing everyone the same experience.....KEEP STUDYING EVERYONE YOU GOT THIS!
So I chose B because it goes against the bottom up theory in the sense that the availability of edible plants is not what determines the ecosystem's characteristics. For B, hunting is what caused the herbivores to increase/plants to decrease. Is this a correct approach??
Question B is correct because the stimulus states that the elimination/reduction of a predator species will have LITTLE impact on the rest of the ecosystem, meaning that it probably wont effect the herbivores or the availability of the edible plants. meaning reduction predator species = we should expect to see LITTLE to NO effect on the ecosystem. Since question asks what goes against this statement we need to look for something that does potentially show a predator species being reduced or eliminated and it having a effect on the ecosystem. AC B does this since once the predator species was eliminated the herbivore species had limited amount of food meaning it effect the plants (less plants avail) and the herbivores (less food for them to eat avail)
Did anyone else treat this a bit more like a parallel match to weed out wrong answers? When ACs are this long, I try to figure out the form first, and from there you’re basically left with only B and D. D strengthens the argument by saying the predators going away doesn’t impact the rest of the population, while B says the predators going away does impact the population. By treating this as a principle match I was able to eliminate A, C, and E as IRV. Let me know if anyone had a similar process.
I feel like this is the first time during one of these practice questions that I could fully explain (in my head) why the correct answer was correct, and the wrong answers were wrong. Most of the time I've just been saying "oh that's irrelevant" to wrong answers when there's usually a more explanatory reason why wrong answers are wrong.
@IsabelleSantiago Maybe do some drills for topics that you are confident about and then do these and maybe you;ll see at what point your productivity goes down. I really struggled when the MC questions started.
I got this one right through POE. The only thing I'm confused about is all the answer choices are about specific island (specific subsets?) and so while I got the correct answer, if there was an option that was more general, it would've thrown me off during POE. Does this make sense?
On these training questions, I force myself to look at each answer and explain why its wrong even if I'm 99% sure I have found the right one. The more exposure I get to wrong answers the better I get at picking them out on questions where I don't know what the right answer is. If I'm not 100% sure of why my answer is right AND all the others are wrong, I watch the video. Usually, I learn a new way the answer was wrong in the video, because most of these answers are wrong in two or three ways.
I'll worry about timing once I'm batting above 98% un-timed on questions. If I can't hit in practice, don't throw me the ball for the game winning shot.
@SophiaBigio from what i understand- in explicitly "weakening" questions, our focus is on weakening the support relationship within the argument, so yes- ACs that just contradict a premise or the conclusion without addressing the actual relationship between them are not what we're looking for.
but this question is an "evidence against" question, so while we can generally approach it like a "weakening" question- all of the "rules" we've learned don't necessarily apply. here, instead of looking to weaken by attacking the support relationship, all we're being asked to do is find some evidence that is inconsistent with the theory. it's okay to pick an answer here that just contradicts the prediction because that's all we're being asked for- any of our argument relationship AC rules aren't binding because all we're being told to do is just present a case/evidence where the theory's predictions don't apply/are inconsistent with the "world".
Proud of myself. Anytime I see science I go into a panic mode because I hate it, but instead focused on the structure and framework of the theory and the answer choices that were in the form of experiments/phenomenon and was able to get B immediately.
@josuermorales I relate to this! I immediately get in my head about science-y questions, but I was able to get this one right by focusing on the facts laid out in the stimulus and really honing in on the question stem. Go us!
I never leave feedback but I have to say. I knew it was C, thought I clicked C, but actually clicked B. Didn't even notice in the blind review and was so confused on why I got it wrong when I knew C was the answer. I think my brain melted and then reformed again :)
#feedback Can someone explain what the numbers in the "Answer Choices" section mean? I've gotten four correct in a row, and on every one there is a 165 above the correct green answer. What does that number mean as well as the other numbers that are on there?
I think you could have saved a lot of time by just choosing B the second you saw it. B is a clear example of a predator's numbers changing and its dramatic change throughout the whole ecosystem. However, if POE works, then keep doing well with it!
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I think what's helping me with accuracy with these question types (whether S or W )is forgetting about that clock in the corner. Regardless of how long the stim and each answer choice is, I've made up in my mind that I WILL get this answer right regardless of how much time I spend. Reading carefully without putting 'pressure' has helped. Wishing everyone the same experience.....KEEP STUDYING EVERYONE YOU GOT THIS!
@ChandaM Best advice, been too focused on the clock that I get desperate and end up messing up, hope you ace the lsat too.
So I chose B because it goes against the bottom up theory in the sense that the availability of edible plants is not what determines the ecosystem's characteristics. For B, hunting is what caused the herbivores to increase/plants to decrease. Is this a correct approach??
these Weaken and strengthen sections are hard
Im so mad this level of difficulty question is the only one I got wrong. I made the question way harder than need be.
Question B is correct because the stimulus states that the elimination/reduction of a predator species will have LITTLE impact on the rest of the ecosystem, meaning that it probably wont effect the herbivores or the availability of the edible plants. meaning reduction predator species = we should expect to see LITTLE to NO effect on the ecosystem. Since question asks what goes against this statement we need to look for something that does potentially show a predator species being reduced or eliminated and it having a effect on the ecosystem. AC B does this since once the predator species was eliminated the herbivore species had limited amount of food meaning it effect the plants (less plants avail) and the herbivores (less food for them to eat avail)
I could visually see the correct answer before I seven saw the questions
@MRod
One does in fact, visually see.
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Omg I answered this question based on strengthening it.... at least I got the answer right thinking if the question was (S)
@Kaileavesley same haha
Did anyone else treat this a bit more like a parallel match to weed out wrong answers? When ACs are this long, I try to figure out the form first, and from there you’re basically left with only B and D. D strengthens the argument by saying the predators going away doesn’t impact the rest of the population, while B says the predators going away does impact the population. By treating this as a principle match I was able to eliminate A, C, and E as IRV. Let me know if anyone had a similar process.
I feel like this is the first time during one of these practice questions that I could fully explain (in my head) why the correct answer was correct, and the wrong answers were wrong. Most of the time I've just been saying "oh that's irrelevant" to wrong answers when there's usually a more explanatory reason why wrong answers are wrong.
really struggling on these questions now. I started off on the right foot and I just keep getting worse. IM STRESSED
@IsabelleSantiago Maybe do some drills for topics that you are confident about and then do these and maybe you;ll see at what point your productivity goes down. I really struggled when the MC questions started.
my environmental studies degree coming into play
I mistook the herbivores to still be predators since the pyramid visual of each level is a predator to the one below. I took it as a trap answer
AGAINST, UGH.
I got this one right through POE. The only thing I'm confused about is all the answer choices are about specific island (specific subsets?) and so while I got the correct answer, if there was an option that was more general, it would've thrown me off during POE. Does this make sense?
For timing purposes if I find the right answer mid-way through, should I just move onto the next question?
On these training questions, I force myself to look at each answer and explain why its wrong even if I'm 99% sure I have found the right one. The more exposure I get to wrong answers the better I get at picking them out on questions where I don't know what the right answer is. If I'm not 100% sure of why my answer is right AND all the others are wrong, I watch the video. Usually, I learn a new way the answer was wrong in the video, because most of these answers are wrong in two or three ways.
I'll worry about timing once I'm batting above 98% un-timed on questions. If I can't hit in practice, don't throw me the ball for the game winning shot.
This one made my brain hurt tbh but reading the explanation now I feel stupid
It took me about 30mins to do this question and got it during blind review! take your time and do not rush. You will focus on time after accuracy
I thought an AC that contradicts wasn't the ideal answer like HUHHHHH
@SophiaBigio from what i understand- in explicitly "weakening" questions, our focus is on weakening the support relationship within the argument, so yes- ACs that just contradict a premise or the conclusion without addressing the actual relationship between them are not what we're looking for.
but this question is an "evidence against" question, so while we can generally approach it like a "weakening" question- all of the "rules" we've learned don't necessarily apply. here, instead of looking to weaken by attacking the support relationship, all we're being asked to do is find some evidence that is inconsistent with the theory. it's okay to pick an answer here that just contradicts the prediction because that's all we're being asked for- any of our argument relationship AC rules aren't binding because all we're being told to do is just present a case/evidence where the theory's predictions don't apply/are inconsistent with the "world".
Proud of myself. Anytime I see science I go into a panic mode because I hate it, but instead focused on the structure and framework of the theory and the answer choices that were in the form of experiments/phenomenon and was able to get B immediately.
@josuermorales I relate to this! I immediately get in my head about science-y questions, but I was able to get this one right by focusing on the facts laid out in the stimulus and really honing in on the question stem. Go us!
I always second guess myself and change my answer from right to wrong f me
I never leave feedback but I have to say. I knew it was C, thought I clicked C, but actually clicked B. Didn't even notice in the blind review and was so confused on why I got it wrong when I knew C was the answer. I think my brain melted and then reformed again :)
im so done with this shit.
real
#feedback Can someone explain what the numbers in the "Answer Choices" section mean? I've gotten four correct in a row, and on every one there is a 165 above the correct green answer. What does that number mean as well as the other numbers that are on there?
I have the same question would really appreciate an answer too! glad you asked!
I believe it is the average score of the test takers who have also gotten that question correct, ie, scored a 165 on a PT. Hope that helps! ◡̈
I love the science questions. I feel more in my element lol
Process of elimination was key on this one
I think you could have saved a lot of time by just choosing B the second you saw it. B is a clear example of a predator's numbers changing and its dramatic change throughout the whole ecosystem. However, if POE works, then keep doing well with it!