It seems like JY rules out any answer choices which are negatives in this section. Should we assume that the answer choice will not be in the contrapositive for PSA questions, because if so, a negative could theoretically provide the correct answer choice?
this question - same with the previous one- if confusing me a little because the answer choice seems to be building the P--> C bridge backwards (unless i'm misinterpreting) answer D says: value of a jewel ---> based on aesthetic pleasure. but the conclusion in the stimulus is about the value so should the answer be aesthetic pleaser --> value
@Lauretamrizi don't confuse the word "solely" for an indicator for necessary condition. Instead focus on the predicate verb "derived from" and gauge which direction that is pointing. value is derived from pleasure. pleasure means value. pleasure ---> value
is it really highly encouraged to use lawgic for these types of questions? I don't find it necessary so far, but I don't want it to trip me up in the future and wonder what to get in the habit of
Remember to not follow your biased views!!!! I missed this one because of my own bias on the matter, rather than putting myself in the role of what the question asked.
@Sam Seriosuly! it took me 5 minutes to get to the correct answer because I really took my time and it DID not feel like a level one, I was so shocked. Lol
#help #feedback am I the only one that can't see my time when doing the question anymore? I only see it after I submit my blind review. I used to see it on the old website so idk whats happening
#Feedback. I'm wondering if this is correct thinking: for PSAr questions, the correct answer choice should not add anything extra or new facts, or other considerations. The correct answer choice should just lay out P --> C.
Once again my P→C was "wrong," I missed the importance of aesthetic pleasure and instead had "If c/f diamond looks real, is equal to value as real diamond." once I looked at the ACs, D immediately jumped out and I realized I had missed the importance of aesthetic pleasure in my P→C. I don't know if this is important but I am really wondering why I keep getting my P→C slightly wrong.
#feedback When I take the drills first and it has a timer, I noticed that it doesn't stop so how is it a timed session? I end up taking so long because I know it won't kick me out. Also, how do you know the target time? I only see it during BR
Click the clock icon on the top of your screen and set it to target time! You might be on unlimited, which is why the target time only appears during BR
Hey Mari! Which one did you initially choose? I answered this in about 45 seconds and do not know anything about rules or what not. I just know the argument was basically about fake vs real diamonds and instead of rarity, being judged on face value aesthetics. With that framework I was able to eliminate all but A and the correct answer. I then chose D, because A went too far in its assumption. At no point do they say to ONLY by fake. Just that fake and real are equally valuable.
lol me. i try to do it timed then work through it all in BR. i picked d timely but spent sooooo long going through my top 2 choices debating. when i saw it was rated 1 i literally said out loud wow all that struggle for the easiest ones okkkaayyyy :((((
I've slowed down how quickly I do questions to practice reading and really understanding stimuli and answer choices. I think this will build our comprehension skills. I think we'll improve our speed gradually naturally from doing this. I'm going to wait until I PT to care about how quickly I complete questions.
I watch the video if I had a hard time understanding why I chose my answer or if I hesitated in choosing my answer in the blind review. If I can justify my reasoning, I don't watch it.
Most of the time yes, I want to make sure I am catching on to the tricks the writers use and eliminating AC's for the right reasons. I usually skip the stim review though
Most of the time if I get the question right I just skim through the written explanation and read the bolded parts to make sure I don't miss anything important. I'll also skim over the answer choice explanations to see if my reasoning for picking/not picking each answer tracks with what is outlined. And I'll obviously read the explanation more thoroughly if I got the question right but don't really know why/how.
I find myself zoning out while watching the videos, even if they're sped up so this works better for me. I usually only watch the videos if I got the question wrong.
the idea of narrow tailoring will come up a lot in con law. cant be worrying about what's coming up in law school j.y. im still trying to get thru the lsat
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It seems like JY rules out any answer choices which are negatives in this section. Should we assume that the answer choice will not be in the contrapositive for PSA questions, because if so, a negative could theoretically provide the correct answer choice?
yayaya got it right! And was well below the time frame that was given :)
#help Doesn't C also lead to the wrong direction (aesthetic pleasure) when we actually need it to lead to value?
this question - same with the previous one- if confusing me a little because the answer choice seems to be building the P--> C bridge backwards (unless i'm misinterpreting) answer D says: value of a jewel ---> based on aesthetic pleasure. but the conclusion in the stimulus is about the value so should the answer be aesthetic pleaser --> value
@Lauretamrizi don't confuse the word "solely" for an indicator for necessary condition. Instead focus on the predicate verb "derived from" and gauge which direction that is pointing. value is derived from pleasure. pleasure means value. pleasure ---> value
is it really highly encouraged to use lawgic for these types of questions? I don't find it necessary so far, but I don't want it to trip me up in the future and wonder what to get in the habit of
REMEMBER: PSA correct answers generally have strong logical force to have sufficient support
Remember to not follow your biased views!!!! I missed this one because of my own bias on the matter, rather than putting myself in the role of what the question asked.
Got it right. But this does not feel like a lv. 1 question.
@Sam Haha yes! I got it right and celebrated then was instantly shocked to see it was only level 1 difficulty. Felt harder than that haha.
@pamelajkok I did the same thing LOL. I thought it was a much higher difficulty.
@Sam Seriosuly! it took me 5 minutes to get to the correct answer because I really took my time and it DID not feel like a level one, I was so shocked. Lol
#help #feedback am I the only one that can't see my time when doing the question anymore? I only see it after I submit my blind review. I used to see it on the old website so idk whats happening
#Feedback. I'm wondering if this is correct thinking: for PSAr questions, the correct answer choice should not add anything extra or new facts, or other considerations. The correct answer choice should just lay out P --> C.
Garbonzo beans of a section smh
this has been the easiest section for me so far ... am i cooked chat?
Literally same
same here but I feel like its always like that at the start rip, I'm scared for what's to come in the rest of this section
Got it correct! Yessir
LFG!!!
blind review ftw
Once again my P→C was "wrong," I missed the importance of aesthetic pleasure and instead had "If c/f diamond looks real, is equal to value as real diamond." once I looked at the ACs, D immediately jumped out and I realized I had missed the importance of aesthetic pleasure in my P→C. I don't know if this is important but I am really wondering why I keep getting my P→C slightly wrong.
#feedback When I take the drills first and it has a timer, I noticed that it doesn't stop so how is it a timed session? I end up taking so long because I know it won't kick me out. Also, how do you know the target time? I only see it during BR
Click the clock icon on the top of your screen and set it to target time! You might be on unlimited, which is why the target time only appears during BR
LOL. Answer choice E actually made me laugh so hard. It's wacky as hell
I keep getting the answers wrong but in BR right because of time!
Hey Mari! Which one did you initially choose? I answered this in about 45 seconds and do not know anything about rules or what not. I just know the argument was basically about fake vs real diamonds and instead of rarity, being judged on face value aesthetics. With that framework I was able to eliminate all but A and the correct answer. I then chose D, because A went too far in its assumption. At no point do they say to ONLY by fake. Just that fake and real are equally valuable.
I also have the same issue of answering wrong because of time, but getting it correct in Blind Review. The above explanation helps alot!
So, I read the question and looked at the answer choice, I knew for sure what I was looking for but I did not solve this using a rule.
can we use the negate test to see if it weakens argument on this type of question?
Oooooooooookay
Finally got one of these rule apps right. It took me 4:14 to finish only for me to find out it was labeled easiest.
lol me. i try to do it timed then work through it all in BR. i picked d timely but spent sooooo long going through my top 2 choices debating. when i saw it was rated 1 i literally said out loud wow all that struggle for the easiest ones okkkaayyyy :((((
I think taking such a long time is okay.
I've slowed down how quickly I do questions to practice reading and really understanding stimuli and answer choices. I think this will build our comprehension skills. I think we'll improve our speed gradually naturally from doing this. I'm going to wait until I PT to care about how quickly I complete questions.
this was dumb easy or was that just me?
It was easy as hell for me too, I was in blind review for 4 extra mins just rethinking if it was too easy lol.
do you guys watch the videos if you get the question right still
I watch the video if I had a hard time understanding why I chose my answer or if I hesitated in choosing my answer in the blind review. If I can justify my reasoning, I don't watch it.
Yes, but I increase the video speed to 1.4x
Most of the time yes, I want to make sure I am catching on to the tricks the writers use and eliminating AC's for the right reasons. I usually skip the stim review though
Most of the time if I get the question right I just skim through the written explanation and read the bolded parts to make sure I don't miss anything important. I'll also skim over the answer choice explanations to see if my reasoning for picking/not picking each answer tracks with what is outlined. And I'll obviously read the explanation more thoroughly if I got the question right but don't really know why/how.
I find myself zoning out while watching the videos, even if they're sped up so this works better for me. I usually only watch the videos if I got the question wrong.
the idea of narrow tailoring will come up a lot in con law. cant be worrying about what's coming up in law school j.y. im still trying to get thru the lsat