Messed up a bit on the last one. I set it as a premise rather than an author’s note. Knew there wasn’t a conclusion though.
So are we saying that when an argument isn’t present, there’s no conclusion? I mean, it would make sense because if I play this out as a conversation and asked someone “Well, what was the point of you saying that?” I’d expect the response to be along the lines of, “I was just saying it to say it.” Lol.
Again bringing the political lense, just because... Sometimes it's useful to make assertions WITHOUT stating your premises, as it makes your conclusions seem obvious and factual and like everybody already understands what you're saying without even having to back it up. Keep your reasons for your beliefs in your back pocket in case somebody decides to challenge you.
The phrase "Notwithstanding the planet Dune being a desert" is a phrase and does not have any actual verb. So I assume, when indicators are used like this ( like no aux verb or main verb), then we know it is not an argument. I might be wrong.
How is Q1 an argument? I understand that "With my current medical condition, there may not be another alternative,"supports "I've decided to go ahead with the operation," but the latter seems like a simple statement of fact and not an argument.
@WilRothman I think arguments like this are where the original definitions of premise and conclusion being taken extremely literally. It may not sound like it's trying to be persuasive, but it is still a "statement that is supported by another statement" which is all a conclusion is in the context of an LSAT question.
You can rewrite it as "I've decided to go ahead with the operation because my current medical condition may leave me no other alternative" and it works, and maybe even sounds a little bit more of an argument!
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5/5
How is Q1 an argument?
4/5 I was so focused looking for concession points that I didn’t realize q5 wasn’t an argument.
5/5
5/5 lets goo
4.5/5, for q4 I assumed the premise was an extension of the concession point
4/5 q 5 I was fixated on looking for P and C assuming this is an argument.
4.5/5. Q4 stumped me. I had it right and went back and forth. for questions lie q5, i need to remember that sometimes there is no argument.
@LeandraDJ Same, for Q4
first 5/5, #superduperproudofmyself
5/5 Finally!
5/5 ;)
I felt so smart realizing the last wasn't an arguement. Finally!!!!
5/5!
4/5, got confused on the last one.
Messed up a bit on the last one. I set it as a premise rather than an author’s note. Knew there wasn’t a conclusion though.
So are we saying that when an argument isn’t present, there’s no conclusion? I mean, it would make sense because if I play this out as a conversation and asked someone “Well, what was the point of you saying that?” I’d expect the response to be along the lines of, “I was just saying it to say it.” Lol.
5/5 lets go
4.5! I considered the people's point as an argument on Question 5.
Again bringing the political lense, just because... Sometimes it's useful to make assertions WITHOUT stating your premises, as it makes your conclusions seem obvious and factual and like everybody already understands what you're saying without even having to back it up. Keep your reasons for your beliefs in your back pocket in case somebody decides to challenge you.
YAY! 5/5
Anybody confuse the Premise/Conclusion in #4? Or did I just work too fast
@StarBrooks same
I say I scored 4.5/5 because the last question tripped me up. I answered:
Concession: Notwithstanding the planet Dune being a desert,
Premise: it was revered and
conclusion: considered invaluable by the people.
But oh well, I'll take what I can get :D
@Dom80 same!
@Dom80 okay same I'm like basically got it right but not 100%
I didn’t watch the video because I felt like I understood. Anything I missed?
4/5 - Got the last one wrong.
The phrase "Notwithstanding the planet Dune being a desert" is a phrase and does not have any actual verb. So I assume, when indicators are used like this ( like no aux verb or main verb), then we know it is not an argument. I might be wrong.
Something to consider, the concessions are usually going to counter the conclusion.
How is Q1 an argument? I understand that "With my current medical condition, there may not be another alternative," supports "I've decided to go ahead with the operation," but the latter seems like a simple statement of fact and not an argument.
@WilRothman I think arguments like this are where the original definitions of premise and conclusion being taken extremely literally. It may not sound like it's trying to be persuasive, but it is still a "statement that is supported by another statement" which is all a conclusion is in the context of an LSAT question.
You can rewrite it as "I've decided to go ahead with the operation because my current medical condition may leave me no other alternative" and it works, and maybe even sounds a little bit more of an argument!
@SavanahHoffstein Thank you for the clarification.