This is a great way to visualize it. The only reason I got this right is because in the content leading up to this it was explained that what differentiates SA from MBT is that we aren't looking for the conclusion, we are looking for the missing link that would guarantee that the conclusion (in this case 'Ms. sandstrom should pay') is a MBT conclusion. The key factor for me is that in these question types we're looking for the missing premise.
@SofiaFuentes remember in the previous sections, JY said that even if you confused an SA question with PSA (conditional logic) it is still the same trick, it's the same thing we think when we are saying some and many can be used with each other. Just use the same formula Premise> conclusion.
I first chose A, until I read D, then figured because it isn't a PSA question type, A isn't right because it presents a principle type of answer, where as D presents a premise.
So when we choose answer choices for SA, during my blind review I treated the question as a PSA and chose A, (what I initially thought the answer was), should I just keep doing that? Or how do I know that if I'm looking for an answer choice that's kind of a principle (generalized) vs if I should look for an answer that's more specific to the stimulus like D.
the prior lessons before this really tripped me up. I thought it was A but after reading through the SA lessons I doubted myself. I think the lessons could've been explained better
i will say the readings before this comparing MBT to SA certainly made this confusing. I pegged A as being "correct" but not what the question was asking.
Isnt A just a restatement of the conclusion. Only reason wht I didnt pick it. The question asks what is to be inferred, so i assumed we are looking for something that the author assumes about Mr. Sandstrom
If Sandstrom expected the column would lead to damage of the farm --> Sandstrom should pay for the damage of the farm
The question is asking the argument's conclusion can be properly inferred IF which one of the following is assumed. So we want to find something in the answer choices that ensure this CONDITIONAL will follow that if someone expects something will cause damage that they should pay for the damage. AC A. does this by setting the conditional if one expects the actions would lead other ppl to cause damage --> one should pay fro damage. THIS ENSURES that the authors cndtional conclusion follows because if this is true than it ensure that if Sandstrom expected the column would lead to damage of the farm --> Sandstrom should pay for the damage of the farm.
UGH. It felt too easy for A to be right, and I thought it was way too close to a principle type answer so I switched to D. I knew D didn't rise to the level of reasonable expectation, but nowhere in A did it establish that she had a reasonable expectation either and that threw me off. Now I see that this question type is just asking in relation to the conclusion drawn in the stimulus. I keep confusing the question types. Any advice?
I have found many of these questions to be much easier when you don’t read some of these incredibly confusing explanations in the lessons prior to the question. The lessons truly just make you doubt yourself and make you over think many of the questions. Additionally, I only read the explanation as to which answer is correct and why it is correct so that way I only take away what I’m supposed to be looking for in each question. There is no reason a 14 minute video is necessary to explain why an answer is correct. Less is more
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slayed this question
I picked A as soon as I read it BUT the second guessing got me. I thought that is too easy? I don't trust this test.
wtf same!!!
same when blind reviewing the question I choose d :(
D played in my face
I felt blindly thrown into this without any examples in the previous lesson.
Anyone struggling like I did, hope this helps:
Compare how each following answer fits:
Notice how option D adds nothing new to the problem?
Once option D establishes that Sandstrom DID expect damage, there is no point in the conclusion asking IF she expected damage. It's redundant.
@Mitch91 Thank you!
This is a great way to visualize it. The only reason I got this right is because in the content leading up to this it was explained that what differentiates SA from MBT is that we aren't looking for the conclusion, we are looking for the missing link that would guarantee that the conclusion (in this case 'Ms. sandstrom should pay') is a MBT conclusion. The key factor for me is that in these question types we're looking for the missing premise.
I originally was gunna choose A but wayyyy overthought it and switched my answer. I gotta trust myself more.
same!!!
I literally skipped A because it seemed like an answer to a principle question... boy was I wrong.
@SofiaFuentes remember in the previous sections, JY said that even if you confused an SA question with PSA (conditional logic) it is still the same trick, it's the same thing we think when we are saying some and many can be used with each other. Just use the same formula Premise> conclusion.
@JimmyCrosbyMalanda Thank you so much for this thoughtful comment :)
@SofiaFuentes SAMEEE!
was that a steamed hams reference
My immediate thought too. I think it was
I first chose A, until I read D, then figured because it isn't a PSA question type, A isn't right because it presents a principle type of answer, where as D presents a premise.
So when we choose answer choices for SA, during my blind review I treated the question as a PSA and chose A, (what I initially thought the answer was), should I just keep doing that? Or how do I know that if I'm looking for an answer choice that's kind of a principle (generalized) vs if I should look for an answer that's more specific to the stimulus like D.
@aaag exactly my thought process, can someone please explain otherwise!?
A perfect question to attempt over a plate of steamed hams.
this lesson left me with a craving for mouth watering hamburgers
You know, up here in Albany, we call them steamed hams.
I knew A was right but i was confused because of the previous explanations so I literally did not choose it I literally crossed it out and chose D
Going back through this question type because I really struggled the first time. Wish me luck
the prior lessons before this really tripped me up. I thought it was A but after reading through the SA lessons I doubted myself. I think the lessons could've been explained better
SA is going to be a LONG unit
those answer choices almost gave me an aneurysm omg
@clairebraz2 lololol same
I didn't even read the other answers after A ahahahahah
i will say the readings before this comparing MBT to SA certainly made this confusing. I pegged A as being "correct" but not what the question was asking.
Isnt A just a restatement of the conclusion. Only reason wht I didnt pick it. The question asks what is to be inferred, so i assumed we are looking for something that the author assumes about Mr. Sandstrom
@AlexHaro This is what I thought too. Exactly why i didnt choose it
@AlexHaro The author concludes
If Sandstrom expected the column would lead to damage of the farm --> Sandstrom should pay for the damage of the farm
The question is asking the argument's conclusion can be properly inferred IF which one of the following is assumed. So we want to find something in the answer choices that ensure this CONDITIONAL will follow that if someone expects something will cause damage that they should pay for the damage. AC A. does this by setting the conditional if one expects the actions would lead other ppl to cause damage --> one should pay fro damage. THIS ENSURES that the authors cndtional conclusion follows because if this is true than it ensure that if Sandstrom expected the column would lead to damage of the farm --> Sandstrom should pay for the damage of the farm.
Being so serious, small fun stuff like the casual simpsons reference really pushes me through the curriculum
UGH. It felt too easy for A to be right, and I thought it was way too close to a principle type answer so I switched to D. I knew D didn't rise to the level of reasonable expectation, but nowhere in A did it establish that she had a reasonable expectation either and that threw me off. Now I see that this question type is just asking in relation to the conclusion drawn in the stimulus. I keep confusing the question types. Any advice?
is this just not a psa question? I dont really get the difference lwk...
NUTS MY BRAIN STILL THOUGHT ABOUT IT NOT BEING A BECAUSE IT SOUNDED LIKE A PRINCIPLE BUT IT WAS A GOOD INFERENCE FRIIIIIIIIIICK
I have found many of these questions to be much easier when you don’t read some of these incredibly confusing explanations in the lessons prior to the question. The lessons truly just make you doubt yourself and make you over think many of the questions. Additionally, I only read the explanation as to which answer is correct and why it is correct so that way I only take away what I’m supposed to be looking for in each question. There is no reason a 14 minute video is necessary to explain why an answer is correct. Less is more
I was confused because the correct answer is a principle, it does not pertain to any of the specifics of the stimulus.