@DNAlex big difference between giving context on one's train of thought in choosing between answers, and showing how you got there so others might benefit, vs what these bots do saying "got it right" so they can get a virtual pat on the back from strangers. Focus on your studies buddy.
@DNAlex Unfortunately, restating the conversation that has already been had and adding nothing new is not an argument. In fact, its yet another common flaw in these questions. I think you need to relearn fundamentals. Happy to hop on a call and walk you through it though.
It seems that whenever there is an answer choice with a word that most are unlikely to know the definition of, it is the right answer. This obviously is not always the case, but i've found on numerous occasions that the answer choices I have eliminated because I was unable to easily comprehend have been the right answers.
I struggle to see the difference between the answer options of C and E. I knew it was C but answered E as I thought it was more descriptive of the situation.
The phrase 'presumably cogent' in the correct answer choice seems to indicate that the analogy supporting the main conclusion is unsupported, or baseless. In other questions, we've seen arguments presume validity in the form of baseless or unsupported conclusions (i.e. "author takes for granted"). This seems markedly different from other 'presumably cogent' arguments.
Here, we're given a clear example of why the arguer makes the conclusion that one's account of their physical environment is inaccurate. The analogized argument about physical environment is supported by the phrase "since it occurs from one particular perspective." This doesn't seem 'presumably cogent,' as the author does offer some support. I'm still not understanding why this phrase would not be proper grounds to eliminate answer choice 'C.'
I thought it was a little weird to throw "presumably cogent" in the answer choice, too, and it didn't seem necessary to include. But I don't believe the answer choice implies anything about the validity of the professor's first argument about the physical environment. Rather, the answer choice is neutral - it's just describing what's going on in the argument.
I interpreted "presumably cogent" as a (needlessly) confusing way of referring to a necessary assumption the professor makes. Specifically, the professor assumes that their first argument makes sense (i.e., their argument is "presumably cogent"), in order to use it as a premise supporting the conclusion of their analogous argument about history books.
Anyway, that's my take, but I could be wrong lol. Hope this helps!
doesnt A also commit the error of comparing two things in the wrong direction? my translation of A: by comparing "biases and prejudices of author is incorrect" to show "perception of physical environment is inaccurate", while in reality the stim compares the two the other way around.
JY absolutely love that you started off the video with "this is probably the hardest MOR question that we have come across". Got the question right and said "really" to this being the hardest.
good luck, ive been at it since december right now and im stuck at 160, i might drop 1000 on a tutor. Missing only 6 questions out of 75 is easier said than done.
I feel like the main problem with A is that it says "is incorrect," where in the stimulus it seems to actually advance both arguments. It isn't arguing against them.
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Picked A, was close to picking C ugh
I am not entirely clear on why we know the second half is the main conclusion, and not an example supporting first statement
got it right!
@DNAlex big difference between giving context on one's train of thought in choosing between answers, and showing how you got there so others might benefit, vs what these bots do saying "got it right" so they can get a virtual pat on the back from strangers. Focus on your studies buddy.
@DNAlex looks like I replied directly to your argument and that's all you can come back with? You'll do fantastic in law school!!
@DNAlex classic ad hominem fallacy at work here lmao
@DNAlex Unfortunately, restating the conversation that has already been had and adding nothing new is not an argument. In fact, its yet another common flaw in these questions. I think you need to relearn fundamentals. Happy to hop on a call and walk you through it though.
good thing I've literally never heard the word cogent in my entire life
got this right in BR thank godddd
had to quickly look up the word "cogent"... I feel dumb XD
It seems that whenever there is an answer choice with a word that most are unlikely to know the definition of, it is the right answer. This obviously is not always the case, but i've found on numerous occasions that the answer choices I have eliminated because I was unable to easily comprehend have been the right answers.
missed this question because I misunderstood the word "cogent"
I struggle to see the difference between the answer options of C and E. I knew it was C but answered E as I thought it was more descriptive of the situation.
I knew C was correct but of course did not choose C :)
i submitted E bc of its attractiveness, whole heartedly feeling like C was correct. sigh
I think this questions was mostly hard because of the "You Try: question before
Chose E and the C for Blind Review
I was able to get this right but I don't understand how you are supposed to know that the History argument is the main conclusion. I had it backwards
@JRS samee
I had to look up what cogent means but I feel that it still counts that I got it right :))
The phrase 'presumably cogent' in the correct answer choice seems to indicate that the analogy supporting the main conclusion is unsupported, or baseless. In other questions, we've seen arguments presume validity in the form of baseless or unsupported conclusions (i.e. "author takes for granted"). This seems markedly different from other 'presumably cogent' arguments.
Here, we're given a clear example of why the arguer makes the conclusion that one's account of their physical environment is inaccurate. The analogized argument about physical environment is supported by the phrase "since it occurs from one particular perspective." This doesn't seem 'presumably cogent,' as the author does offer some support. I'm still not understanding why this phrase would not be proper grounds to eliminate answer choice 'C.'
I thought it was a little weird to throw "presumably cogent" in the answer choice, too, and it didn't seem necessary to include. But I don't believe the answer choice implies anything about the validity of the professor's first argument about the physical environment. Rather, the answer choice is neutral - it's just describing what's going on in the argument.
I interpreted "presumably cogent" as a (needlessly) confusing way of referring to a necessary assumption the professor makes. Specifically, the professor assumes that their first argument makes sense (i.e., their argument is "presumably cogent"), in order to use it as a premise supporting the conclusion of their analogous argument about history books.
Anyway, that's my take, but I could be wrong lol. Hope this helps!
@danielleiebradley834 I would have thought the word presumedly could be used more loosely.
got it correct during blind review yay! Initially chose A then chose C
I read cogent as cognizant, and just thought it meant a convincing argument. I mean, it lead me to the right answer I guess!
doesnt A also commit the error of comparing two things in the wrong direction? my translation of A: by comparing "biases and prejudices of author is incorrect" to show "perception of physical environment is inaccurate", while in reality the stim compares the two the other way around.
In other words, I think A confuses the sources and target of the analogy
A was just too messy to pick since the professor is basing the whole argument on his own reasoning.
The word Cogent did me in 😩
me too ahahhahaha
I picked C and changed it to A in blind review. Blargh.
JY absolutely love that you started off the video with "this is probably the hardest MOR question that we have come across". Got the question right and said "really" to this being the hardest.
175 here I come!!!
good luck, ive been at it since december right now and im stuck at 160, i might drop 1000 on a tutor. Missing only 6 questions out of 75 is easier said than done.
for some reason the explanations for this module leave me more confused if i got the question right lol
I feel like the main problem with A is that it says "is incorrect," where in the stimulus it seems to actually advance both arguments. It isn't arguing against them.