Can someone explain how this abstracted version of AC C is still correct? I'm struggling to understand how it applies.
To have this argument and its underlying math work, it would have to be death -> iatrogenic disease. ID is necessary for death.
However, since we know it's flawed and doesn't work (and iatrogenic disease -> death just seems to be wrong from common sense), that therefore discounts ID as a necessary condition for this argument?
these are soooo hit or miss for me. It either is extremely apparent or I can't see it at all. This one I got in 1 minute, the other I took 10 minutes and got wrong and BR I guessed and got it right. Does anyone have tips? :(
This was yet another very helpful question with its lessons to keep in mind for future flawed causal questions.
The argument is flawed because it simply assumes Iatrogenic diseases which is a sufficient cause to death to conclude on the basis that it is a necessary cause which is wrong.
And with the AC introducing the overlooked possibility that there are multiple alternative causes besides Iatrogenic disease the argument is weakened because we can't conclude that half of the deaths will decrease.
While in the next question it mistakes a single effect to be the only effect of a cause, this question conflates a single cause to be the only necessary cause and falls vulnerable to alternative causes, this instance being the sickness that lead patient to receive hospitalization and medical error in the first place.
I'm confused about what this means: "Again, recall that the conclusion is conditional. We’re already positing a hypothetical world where we’ve prevented all iatrogenic diseases."
Does this mean that since the conclusion is conditional, the wrong answer choices will include "prevention of all iatrogenic diseases"
Can someone help me understand why E is wrong? I like C and E as answer choice, but I don't understand why E is wrong. I understand we are dealing with an embedded conditional in the conclusion that states that we are in a world with no Iatrogenic dieases, but answer E is essentially saying in my eyes "as long as there is non-Iatrogenic dieseases, there is bound to be Iatrogenic dieases, therefore to get rid of Iatrogenic diesease, you would have to get rid of all diesease", which is not something we are dealing with. I understand that in a round-about way, answer E is essentially just denying hypothetical in the conclusion, and now that I see that C is right I concede it's the better answer, but still don't see how E is nessecarily wrong.
i am really struggling with these questions haven't gotten any right. And every choice I make is totally tricking me as I feel very confident. C didnt seem right to me because its SO VAGUE. It seems like such a weak answer choice. Does anyone have any tips? Or any other resources that could help me understand?
Damn the way I read this question was not at all as how he read it lol.
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(C3) a cause need not be a necessary cause
Can someone explain how this abstracted version of AC C is still correct? I'm struggling to understand how it applies.
To have this argument and its underlying math work, it would have to be death -> iatrogenic disease. ID is necessary for death.
However, since we know it's flawed and doesn't work (and iatrogenic disease -> death just seems to be wrong from common sense), that therefore discounts ID as a necessary condition for this argument?
took me 5 mins to get right but I forced myself to find an explanation for every wrong answer
these are soooo hit or miss for me. It either is extremely apparent or I can't see it at all. This one I got in 1 minute, the other I took 10 minutes and got wrong and BR I guessed and got it right. Does anyone have tips? :(
Abstract of the Assumption - If A is prevented no other cause of B?
If thats the case, then I can see why C is correct
This was yet another very helpful question with its lessons to keep in mind for future flawed causal questions.
The argument is flawed because it simply assumes Iatrogenic diseases which is a sufficient cause to death to conclude on the basis that it is a necessary cause which is wrong.
And with the AC introducing the overlooked possibility that there are multiple alternative causes besides Iatrogenic disease the argument is weakened because we can't conclude that half of the deaths will decrease.
While in the next question it mistakes a single effect to be the only effect of a cause, this question conflates a single cause to be the only necessary cause and falls vulnerable to alternative causes, this instance being the sickness that lead patient to receive hospitalization and medical error in the first place.
I saw D as a trap answer choice from a mile away and hit C with such a conviction that I didn't need BR--about time I gain some confidence again hut!
I've seen this question before here... how?!
i'm so confident on my choices and they're just wrong bruh
I'm flopping
"This seems like a totally logical argument to me, so I am in trouble." Me every day since I bestowed this endeavor of taking the LSAT since May.
got down to a and c, ended up choosing a bc im actually dumb and misread the stim LOL
I'm confused about what this means: "Again, recall that the conclusion is conditional. We’re already positing a hypothetical world where we’ve prevented all iatrogenic diseases."
Does this mean that since the conclusion is conditional, the wrong answer choices will include "prevention of all iatrogenic diseases"
Can someone help me understand why E is wrong? I like C and E as answer choice, but I don't understand why E is wrong. I understand we are dealing with an embedded conditional in the conclusion that states that we are in a world with no Iatrogenic dieases, but answer E is essentially saying in my eyes "as long as there is non-Iatrogenic dieseases, there is bound to be Iatrogenic dieases, therefore to get rid of Iatrogenic diesease, you would have to get rid of all diesease", which is not something we are dealing with. I understand that in a round-about way, answer E is essentially just denying hypothetical in the conclusion, and now that I see that C is right I concede it's the better answer, but still don't see how E is nessecarily wrong.
Any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance.
i am really struggling with these questions haven't gotten any right. And every choice I make is totally tricking me as I feel very confident. C didnt seem right to me because its SO VAGUE. It seems like such a weak answer choice. Does anyone have any tips? Or any other resources that could help me understand?
Yes, finally back!
i didn't even realize the quotations were there...
unrelated but could someone pls let me know how to get to the Blind review page on these 'You try' lessons on the new 7sage site
ok i looked past answer C because it had the least technical language damn
I was so lost, but used Poe for the win. Note to self, don't trust "words" in "quotation marks"
Am I the only one that was confused by the sentence structure?
I am absolutely bombing this section DEAR LORD take me out
Getting this question right because you come from an anti-modern medicine town and heard this a hundred times. Work smarter, not harder amirite?
15 seconds faster than target...LETS GOOOO!!!!!!!
5/7 I feel like when NEO started to believe 🤣
Damn the way I read this question was not at all as how he read it lol.