I just totally misread the order of premise and conclusion and thought part to whole not whole to part. So I crossed out B and C instantly and selected between A, D, and E. Whoops :/
Okay trippy, but when I slowed down, I think I got it. I was caught between b and c because I knew I was looking for a flaw that says whole-to-part style things; what is true of the whole must be true to the part. On second glance, I was able to rule out B because I realized that B had to be true, but also, that B was a case where whole-to-part reasoning would actually make sense. If everybody voted for this thing, and Martinez was on the group that voted, then they had to have voted. This is also slightly different from the stim in that it makes the generalization to one specific person vs any of the people. Either way, this wouldn't have been flawed, but we want a flawed argument that does this.
C is the only one that does that. We start with the big collection, and then we assume that what must be true about the big thing has to be true of the small things in it. (Flaw, it could just be one thing that's doing all the work)
I think a lot of the tricky thing is knowing whether something is part-to-whole or whole-to-part, but I think it's clearer when we look at d. If we wanted to make d right and do whole-to-part, we would have started with the company. If it said, The company is old. SO the members of the company are old.
MacNeil: There's no way I can afford to buy a PIECE of this collection because the collection as a WHOLE is super valuable.
Friend: Bro, there's a flaw in your reasoning. Just because the whole thing is valuable doesn't mean there aren't affordable paintings in there. Go find one!
Whole to part flaw.
A - not a flaw.
B - not a flaw.
C - flaw. whole to part.
D - part to whole flaw.
E - part to whole flaw.
C is correct.
The stem says "MacNeil's argument" so you just read what MacNeil says and ignore the rest. You can actually ignore everything outside the quotes and get this right.
I think Two main points that are really helping me:
Don't Instinctually start mapping it out in LAWGIC unless it is a decently long chain of conditionals/causes/sets.
Since you should ALWAYS be reading the Question Stem first, if it says the Stimulus is flawed, MAKE SURE YOU IDENTIFY THAT FLAW BEFORE GOING TO THE ANSWER CHOICES.
I am realizing a lot of my confusion before coming to these lessons was from just reading the ACs and trying to feel out a vibe for what SOUNDED similar, and then I'd get confused because there wasn't something specific I was looking for.
For this question, I saw the Question Stem and then my thought process went like this:
"Oh okay what's the flaw here...fuck I really hope I don't have to map this out I hate Lawgic...."
"Oh it's pretty simple, not many words thank God. Okay what's the flaw here....."
reads Stimulus
"Ah she's flawed because she could possibly afford one art piece or two, even if the value of the entire collection is super super out of her budget. So the flaw must be shes assuming the price/value of a part of a set can be determined by the value/price of the entire set"
That then led me to choose C. Because remember, she is determining the value of the Smaller Thing, only by knowing the value of the Bigger Thing. That was her flaw.
Lowkey I had to start comparing answers here. A, D, and E are all the same sooooo like one of them can't be right hahaha. Was between B and C a just went with vibes
After being so stressed about studying recently, it's really nice to have finally found a question type that I can consistently get right under target time, and enjoy doing! I never would've thought parallel questions would be my strong suit lol
wtf does "the largest privately owned" even qualify here. Is Vidmar's collection the largest privately owned collection in the world? Or is it that of Vidmars collections, the one being auctioned is the largest of hers that is privately owned, (if thats even possible)? The question stim and answers are absurdly worded.
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didn't even know what was going on, picked my answer purely on vibes
hated every single second of this.
What a dumb question
I just totally misread the order of premise and conclusion and thought part to whole not whole to part. So I crossed out B and C instantly and selected between A, D, and E. Whoops :/
Okay trippy, but when I slowed down, I think I got it. I was caught between b and c because I knew I was looking for a flaw that says whole-to-part style things; what is true of the whole must be true to the part. On second glance, I was able to rule out B because I realized that B had to be true, but also, that B was a case where whole-to-part reasoning would actually make sense. If everybody voted for this thing, and Martinez was on the group that voted, then they had to have voted. This is also slightly different from the stim in that it makes the generalization to one specific person vs any of the people. Either way, this wouldn't have been flawed, but we want a flawed argument that does this.
C is the only one that does that. We start with the big collection, and then we assume that what must be true about the big thing has to be true of the small things in it. (Flaw, it could just be one thing that's doing all the work)
I think a lot of the tricky thing is knowing whether something is part-to-whole or whole-to-part, but I think it's clearer when we look at d. If we wanted to make d right and do whole-to-part, we would have started with the company. If it said, The company is old. SO the members of the company are old.
MacNeil: There's no way I can afford to buy a PIECE of this collection because the collection as a WHOLE is super valuable.
Friend: Bro, there's a flaw in your reasoning. Just because the whole thing is valuable doesn't mean there aren't affordable paintings in there. Go find one!
Whole to part flaw.
A - not a flaw.
B - not a flaw.
C - flaw. whole to part.
D - part to whole flaw.
E - part to whole flaw.
C is correct.
The stem says "MacNeil's argument" so you just read what MacNeil says and ignore the rest. You can actually ignore everything outside the quotes and get this right.
im fucking pissed
WHAT THE HELL WAS THIS
this one ruined my streak!!! what was this question
how are the last three question choices that different? FAWK
wtf
what the fuck is this question?
I thought of it as the question before, sample to generlization...ugh
I have a tendency to get the answers correct even though i do not always know why I am drawn ta certain answer choices. Anyone else?
what are we all smoking
I think Two main points that are really helping me:
Don't Instinctually start mapping it out in LAWGIC unless it is a decently long chain of conditionals/causes/sets.
Since you should ALWAYS be reading the Question Stem first, if it says the Stimulus is flawed, MAKE SURE YOU IDENTIFY THAT FLAW BEFORE GOING TO THE ANSWER CHOICES.
I am realizing a lot of my confusion before coming to these lessons was from just reading the ACs and trying to feel out a vibe for what SOUNDED similar, and then I'd get confused because there wasn't something specific I was looking for.
For this question, I saw the Question Stem and then my thought process went like this:
"Oh okay what's the flaw here...fuck I really hope I don't have to map this out I hate Lawgic...."
"Oh it's pretty simple, not many words thank God. Okay what's the flaw here....."
reads Stimulus
"Ah she's flawed because she could possibly afford one art piece or two, even if the value of the entire collection is super super out of her budget. So the flaw must be shes assuming the price/value of a part of a set can be determined by the value/price of the entire set"
That then led me to choose C. Because remember, she is determining the value of the Smaller Thing, only by knowing the value of the Bigger Thing. That was her flaw.
Hope this helps somebody! :)
Lowkey I had to start comparing answers here. A, D, and E are all the same sooooo like one of them can't be right hahaha. Was between B and C a just went with vibes
After being so stressed about studying recently, it's really nice to have finally found a question type that I can consistently get right under target time, and enjoy doing! I never would've thought parallel questions would be my strong suit lol
My thoughts:
A) eliminated bc logic flows. French is a language not a value adjective.
B) eliminated bc adopting plan was the verb not an adjective.
C) long is adjective. I like that. Matches. Also logic does not flow. We like that. Matches the flaw in stim.
D) Does have adjectives... but it's part to whole instead of whole to part.
E) Too many nouns not enough adjectives. Make the grammar match as well. Also E has 3 nouns instead of 2.
aaaand this is my queue to log off for the day
what the hell did i just read? am i high?
lmao what? this question broke my brain. i didn't even know what the stimulus was trying to argue
Picked E and then D in BR >:/
I did think C was plausible though, so I'm glad that I got that right.
they circled the question in the blind review but i trusted myself and chose the same correct answer again in the br. lets goooo
wtf does "the largest privately owned" even qualify here. Is Vidmar's collection the largest privately owned collection in the world? Or is it that of Vidmars collections, the one being auctioned is the largest of hers that is privately owned, (if thats even possible)? The question stim and answers are absurdly worded.
@Tobykenobi Vidmar's collection is what is being modified