On topics I know little about, like tragic dramas, it helps if I can "compare" or liken the argument to something I do know about. So, for this particular stimulus, it was really easy to think of Lesky's "middle ground" perspective as similar to one many Christian's hold (myself included) when considering human freewill vs. God's sovereignty over our lives... There is a tension there. Personally it was much easier for me to think in those terms since my brain is more familiar with that kind of "argument" and language than in mythological ancient writings. It made understanding and retaining the facts of this passage super simple!
AL disagrees with AR and BS's views and uses A's Aga play as an example to show that tragedy arises out of the interplaying of both the self and godly forces
(2) identify different perspectives and the author’s attitude
AL's perspective is identified her, and authors perspective is neutral.
@CharChar3 If that's what you get under a timed situation, then I'd just move on to practicing. You wouldn't want to tinker with your reading style too much.
Where are you supposed to write these short rez summaries on the actual LSAT? or are you just supposed to remember them in your hread- of so how are u supposed to remember
@LillyWitte For timing purposes, I find for myself when I write it out, it just takes too long to scribe by hand, it eats up valuable time for me, so now I've moved onto trying to memorize it, but I still jot down a key word or two if I think I will forget some important detail, but I am trying to transition to using memory as my primary resource.
@LillyWitte write it out when practicing like this until it becomes an automatic process in your head. kinda similar to writing out the lawgic until you can do it quickly in your head
With such dry material, the dark humor in the explanation videos is needed! My mind wanders, then I crack a smile from hearing a dark comment. #gottakeepgoing
Is there any benefit in studying the passage styles (like the Miro Board)? Or just using it as a guide to the best of your memory and solely ingrain the 'reading process'.
It's helpful when you start drilling more and reviewing more. Passage Styles aren't the kind of thing that will stick just from looking at 4-8 passages. So I'd make a point of reflecting on the style when you start drilling, taking sections, and PTing. This will help the broad patterns (which are described in the Miro board) stick out more. But you won't get too much utility from trying to memorize stuff in the Miro board. Use it as a cheat sheet / checklist to review from time to time to see if the points remind you of things you've encountered/realized from your own review.
One trick I've heard is to find a way to get invested in each passage you read.
Since I'm not well versed in a lot of ancient classics, I had a pretty unorthodox method of keeping interested--by connecting it to a story I am familiar with.
The story of Deathnote surprisingly has the setup of a Greek tragedy. Thankfully, it applies really well to this passage, as the story involves both free will and some interference of gods. In reading each of the responses, I've been applying it to the story of the anime, (or, where it doesn't apply, imagining an alternate universe where that is the case for the story,) and using that to keep track of the meaning.
According to google, some other storylines that fit the bill are Scarface, The Godfather, and The Kite Runner. Shakespearian tragedies are also rather similar, so even if you are familiar with Macbeth or Hamlet, you might use these to your advantage.
One way that has sort of worked for me is just forcing myself to find the content entertaining or interesting; which is not always too hard, cause a lot of the time I think these passages do have some interesting stuff going on in them!
JY actually mentioned this in the old RC CC introduction video. He said that sometimes you just have to feign interest, and eventually you might become genuinely interested.
I really like that 7sage put the full unaltered RC paragraph in the text portion. It is easier to take notes since I am able to copy the text into my notebook and mark it up!
I think you should always do it because it allows you to comprehend the sentence without the interruption of what's being said in the dashes and than of course going back and reading the dashes to get the extra info.
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(1) make a low-resolution summary
A. Lesky disagrees with A. River & B. Snell.
A. Lesky uses Aeschylus' play Agamemnon to show that both divine superhuman forces are acting on oneself AND Agamemnon has self-choice.
In short, A. Lesky believes two forces act on oneself:
Divine necessity
Self-autonomy
(2) identify different perspectives and the author’s attitude
A. Lesky disagrees with both Snell and River.
Author is neutral; we don't know if author agrees or disagrees.
(3) predict the direction of the next paragraph.
The author might put in their point of view, perspective, and/or belief in the next paragraph.
On topics I know little about, like tragic dramas, it helps if I can "compare" or liken the argument to something I do know about. So, for this particular stimulus, it was really easy to think of Lesky's "middle ground" perspective as similar to one many Christian's hold (myself included) when considering human freewill vs. God's sovereignty over our lives... There is a tension there. Personally it was much easier for me to think in those terms since my brain is more familiar with that kind of "argument" and language than in mythological ancient writings. It made understanding and retaining the facts of this passage super simple!
(1) make a low-resolution summary
AL disagrees with AR and BS's views and uses A's Aga play as an example to show that tragedy arises out of the interplaying of both the self and godly forces
(2) identify different perspectives and the author’s attitude
AL's perspective is identified her, and authors perspective is neutral.
(3) predict the direction of the next paragraph.
the author might present their pinion finally.
Is it worth it to do the reading curriculum if I consistently get -1 to -4 from the start of my studying?
@CharChar3 If that's what you get under a timed situation, then I'd just move on to practicing. You wouldn't want to tinker with your reading style too much.
the hidden scholars are funny to me 😂 like bro, why are u hiding?...
Where are you supposed to write these short rez summaries on the actual LSAT? or are you just supposed to remember them in your hread- of so how are u supposed to remember
They give you a limited amount of paper on the lsat. You can write it there.
Remember in your head if you can. When I first started studying I wrote them out. See the previous couple lessons where there's more comments on this.
@LillyWitte For timing purposes, I find for myself when I write it out, it just takes too long to scribe by hand, it eats up valuable time for me, so now I've moved onto trying to memorize it, but I still jot down a key word or two if I think I will forget some important detail, but I am trying to transition to using memory as my primary resource.
@LillyWitte write it out when practicing like this until it becomes an automatic process in your head. kinda similar to writing out the lawgic until you can do it quickly in your head
Agamemnon is such a fun name to say
It is what it is.
With such dry material, the dark humor in the explanation videos is needed! My mind wanders, then I crack a smile from hearing a dark comment. #gottakeepgoing
Is there any benefit in studying the passage styles (like the Miro Board)? Or just using it as a guide to the best of your memory and solely ingrain the 'reading process'.
It's helpful when you start drilling more and reviewing more. Passage Styles aren't the kind of thing that will stick just from looking at 4-8 passages. So I'd make a point of reflecting on the style when you start drilling, taking sections, and PTing. This will help the broad patterns (which are described in the Miro board) stick out more. But you won't get too much utility from trying to memorize stuff in the Miro board. Use it as a cheat sheet / checklist to review from time to time to see if the points remind you of things you've encountered/realized from your own review.
Where is miro board and what exactly is it?
How do you stay focused and glued to the passage? Even during these breakdowns my mind drifts
I think just practice tbh...happens to me and I have to return myself on focusing
One trick I've heard is to find a way to get invested in each passage you read.
Since I'm not well versed in a lot of ancient classics, I had a pretty unorthodox method of keeping interested--by connecting it to a story I am familiar with.
The story of Deathnote surprisingly has the setup of a Greek tragedy. Thankfully, it applies really well to this passage, as the story involves both free will and some interference of gods. In reading each of the responses, I've been applying it to the story of the anime, (or, where it doesn't apply, imagining an alternate universe where that is the case for the story,) and using that to keep track of the meaning.
According to google, some other storylines that fit the bill are Scarface, The Godfather, and The Kite Runner. Shakespearian tragedies are also rather similar, so even if you are familiar with Macbeth or Hamlet, you might use these to your advantage.
Talk to yourself and ask questions.
Ex. oh really Lesky says that! wow I wonder why?
this forces you to stay engaged rather than reading it alone. hope that helps
One way that has sort of worked for me is just forcing myself to find the content entertaining or interesting; which is not always too hard, cause a lot of the time I think these passages do have some interesting stuff going on in them!
me too, anyone have advice?
JY actually mentioned this in the old RC CC introduction video. He said that sometimes you just have to feign interest, and eventually you might become genuinely interested.
I really like that 7sage put the full unaltered RC paragraph in the text portion. It is easier to take notes since I am able to copy the text into my notebook and mark it up!
Is skipping over dashes to get he core of a sentence always a good idea? when should you or should not do it?
I think you should always do it because it allows you to comprehend the sentence without the interruption of what's being said in the dashes and than of course going back and reading the dashes to get the extra info.
anyone else trying to cram all of these new lessons before next week lol
lol yeah. I'm just glad we have them cuz RC is my worst section.