My trick: its always going to be sufficient, UNLESS it contains some version of 'require(d)(s), Depend(s)(ed), or Relies/rely/relied. Think of these as trump cards, that immediately change it to necessity.
Idk if the LSAC would ever use this, but I think it's possible to phrase an NA question with the word "if". For example: "Which one of the following would render the argument null if not assumed?"
#feedback There should definitely be more of these labeling skill builders because I am the type to forget which stems mean what. These are very helpful.
55/55 correct! How I remember necessary and sufficient question is any question that has requires, relies, or depends its a necessary assumption question? Any assumption questions that don't have requires relies or depends its sufficient :)
“Which one of the following principles must be assumed in order for the psychologist's conclusion to be properly drawn?”
This is a necessary assumption question stem that does not conform to your rules, and it is just a few lectures away in “point at issue.” However, you have provided a nice guide that works for the questions above, it is merely not generalizable to all LSAT questions.
Most of the SA question stems will contain the word "if." If they don't, look instead for "which of the following" - because SA questions are asking you to find an AC that adds something to the argument, whereas NA questions are asking us to find something that already exists in the argument.
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5/5 with 2 minutes to spare.
Lmao
I can easily identify which is which, the issue is getting them right lmao
@matthewlefevre7175 Real
this should just be a section of the LSAT
BONUS QUESTION:
The conclusion drawn follows logically from the premises only if which one of the following is assumed?
Answer:
Necessary Assumption. Watch out for only
THANKS!!
Can this be a new section on the LSAT??
Though it seems far far away, there WILL be an end for the LSAT journey, just like this problem set.
We will overcome this!
ty fatal poop !
r/rimjob_steve
if this was a section on the test i'd have that 180 in the bag.
good luck everyone... you know what's next.
This was a great exercise! I would love to see more like this sprinkled in the rest of the LR section #feedback
I agree! This would help so much, especially in the earlier questions when we are first getting started,
55/55 lol
Thought this would never end!! :0
Brace yourself everyone, here come the problem sets!!!
Ugh, the worst! lol
i feel so smart rn
- Depends, requires, relies = necessary
- “If assumed”, “if true”= sufficient
why do i feel like i read the same questions over and over again
why do I feel like i read the same comment over and over again
My trick: its always going to be sufficient, UNLESS it contains some version of 'require(d)(s), Depend(s)(ed), or Relies/rely/relied. Think of these as trump cards, that immediately change it to necessity.
My rule of thumb that is 99% effective: look for the word "if" in the question stem. "If" indicates sufficient assumption.
Idk if the LSAC would ever use this, but I think it's possible to phrase an NA question with the word "if". For example: "Which one of the following would render the argument null if not assumed?"
U legend!!
#feedback There should definitely be more of these labeling skill builders because I am the type to forget which stems mean what. These are very helpful.
55/55
If you see, properly drawn, follows logically, properly inferred, or justifies --> identify SA
Required, relies, depends --> identify NA
55/55. I can distinguish the questions but have trouble getting the right answer for the actual SA and NA questions. Anyone else?
My tutor shared this strategy for me for figuring our SA vs NA question stems which helped me a lot with this exercise:
If the question stem has "IF" in is, it is a SA
If the question stem does not have "IF" in it, it is a NA
@CheyenneSimpson even simpler if the argument depends/requires NAQ -- otherwise SAQ
55/55 correct! How I remember necessary and sufficient question is any question that has requires, relies, or depends its a necessary assumption question? Any assumption questions that don't have requires relies or depends its sufficient :)
55/55 using three rules.
Assumed = SA
Assumption & Assuming = NA
Principal = SA
You're Welcome.
I recommend reading the question stems before searching for those key words.
I found one that violates your rules:
“Which one of the following principles must be assumed in order for the psychologist's conclusion to be properly drawn?”
This is a necessary assumption question stem that does not conform to your rules, and it is just a few lectures away in “point at issue.” However, you have provided a nice guide that works for the questions above, it is merely not generalizable to all LSAT questions.
Most of the SA question stems will contain the word "if." If they don't, look instead for "which of the following" - because SA questions are asking you to find an AC that adds something to the argument, whereas NA questions are asking us to find something that already exists in the argument.
#feedback I found this really helpful and I think other students did as well. Would love to see more of this.
Agreed