Based off the video explanation on #3, is there a way to make it not feel like logic games and a way to simplify by words why A would be correct? I got it on the blind review after reading carefully without the diagramming and math feeling breakdown.
@MichaelMilman Honestly the fastest would be to just read the sentence and understand in your mind what's sufficient and necessary. That's usually what high-scorers do when we get just one conditional. Once we start to get multiple conditionals and we have to understand how they connect to each other, and possibly need to understand one of them in the form of a contrapositive, that's when writing something down can be helpful. Just highlighting probably wouldn't work well for this (because the highlights don't show the contrapositive understanding).
3/3 and 30 seconds under time on each ones. Woulda been faster too if the first 2 didn't have their answers as the last one you read.
I find its easy to just start saying if A then B... yadayada.. oh and if B then C... blah blah... oh and if Z then A. Ok the answer probably will be if Z then C, lets find that.
If its clearly a a chaining conditional type quesetion. block out all the details. Lists, adjectives, etc. Don't matter. And DONT second guess. If you read an answer, and it must be true, even if you think it sounds like a trick. Its the answer.
3/3, but I was +1.11, +.028, +1.39. It takes too much time and effort to diagram, although I do feel as if the diagram drills are helping me piece together the argument and understand the sufficient conditions.
I'm proud of a 2/3, but the 1st one really messed with me. I messed up the sufficient and necessary condition so when it came time to Blind Review I was so confident in it that I didn't give it a second glance. I'm glad to see it isn't only me, and seeing a 5 difficulty mark next to it makes me feel a little better all things considered.
#2 I did the Lawgic right..but I didn't catch that negating the polls being grossly inaccurate just means its a good indication.. so I crossed out E quickly :/
That was tough. I mapped out the relationships correctly for all questions, something about translating it back to normal english is where I get confused and choose the wrong answer.
@SeanWolfe I'm still new to these strategies as well, but I'm starting to develop a strategy.
After I read the question and skim the stimulus I assess if it's something I can figure out with intuition, or if I need to diagram it out.
For the first question, I lost track of what I was reading, so I stopped and diagramed. On question 3, I was able to figure it out without writing anything down.
Sometimes diagramming is necessary, but the goal is to understand what the question is actually saying and fall back on the lawgic translation when dealing with really complex or abstract ideas.
@kristinavoneill Click the magnifying glass with the plus next to the question number. Then click on explanation. They have explanations for like damn near all the questions ever made.
@kristinavoneill Click the magnifying glass next to the question. Or just click into your results and you'll get taken to a review window. There's an explanation tab there.
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I don't understand how its possible to do these questions so fast.
nice little a-ha moment on number 3.
3/3
Hi, I am having a lot of difficulty chaining the conditionals. Any advice?
+5:59 for the first question, did I just fall asleep?
Based off the video explanation on #3, is there a way to make it not feel like logic games and a way to simplify by words why A would be correct? I got it on the blind review after reading carefully without the diagramming and math feeling breakdown.
@Kevin_Lin In your opinion, would it be faster and more efficient to highlight sufficient and necessary clauses rather than writing them down?
@MichaelMilman Honestly the fastest would be to just read the sentence and understand in your mind what's sufficient and necessary. That's usually what high-scorers do when we get just one conditional. Once we start to get multiple conditionals and we have to understand how they connect to each other, and possibly need to understand one of them in the form of a contrapositive, that's when writing something down can be helpful. Just highlighting probably wouldn't work well for this (because the highlights don't show the contrapositive understanding).
@Kevin_Lin Thank you!
3/3 and 30 seconds under time on each ones. Woulda been faster too if the first 2 didn't have their answers as the last one you read.
I find its easy to just start saying if A then B... yadayada.. oh and if B then C... blah blah... oh and if Z then A. Ok the answer probably will be if Z then C, lets find that.
If its clearly a a chaining conditional type quesetion. block out all the details. Lists, adjectives, etc. Don't matter. And DONT second guess. If you read an answer, and it must be true, even if you think it sounds like a trick. Its the answer.
I don't know if that helps but hopefully
3/3, but I was +1.11, +.028, +1.39. It takes too much time and effort to diagram, although I do feel as if the diagram drills are helping me piece together the argument and understand the sufficient conditions.
I'm proud of a 2/3, but the 1st one really messed with me. I messed up the sufficient and necessary condition so when it came time to Blind Review I was so confident in it that I didn't give it a second glance. I'm glad to see it isn't only me, and seeing a 5 difficulty mark next to it makes me feel a little better all things considered.
#2 I did the Lawgic right..but I didn't catch that negating the polls being grossly inaccurate just means its a good indication.. so I crossed out E quickly :/
That was tough. I mapped out the relationships correctly for all questions, something about translating it back to normal english is where I get confused and choose the wrong answer.
@SeanWolfe I'm still new to these strategies as well, but I'm starting to develop a strategy.
After I read the question and skim the stimulus I assess if it's something I can figure out with intuition, or if I need to diagram it out.
For the first question, I lost track of what I was reading, so I stopped and diagramed. On question 3, I was able to figure it out without writing anything down.
Sometimes diagramming is necessary, but the goal is to understand what the question is actually saying and fall back on the lawgic translation when dealing with really complex or abstract ideas.
Well, that was rough...
2/3, it challenging and I took my time buuuuut I sensed the gears in my head actually clicking for once. these forced me to think using lawgic
where I can watch the explanation of this exercise? :(
@kristinavoneill Click the magnifying glass with the plus next to the question number. Then click on explanation. They have explanations for like damn near all the questions ever made.
that first question was tough, but after watching the video i understood it!
@KyleWelch which video? I'm kind of lost :( I wish this set had an explanation video
@kristinavoneill Click the magnifying glass next to the question. Or just click into your results and you'll get taken to a review window. There's an explanation tab there.
2/3 that first question was a doozy
2/3 #1 had me windmilling for my life
3/3 correct, but I'm still wayyy over time. Repetition repetition repetition
Stay on your grind. You're going to be a lawyer one day
2/3... #1 stumped me smh
1/3 right and poor timing
0/3 i realize that i am not that great at diagramming :c
2/3 right. The first question really got me stuck.
I'm doing well but taking too long per question
Got 'em all right, but 1 took me almost 6 mins, is that a bad thing, or can it be fixed with a lot more time and practice?
@JiggityJack5 Yes you can improve! Don't give up!
genuinely spent 10 minutes on 3 to get the answer wrong both times idk why that was so hard