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My UG GPA is 3.82; I haven't taken the LSAT yet (July or September) but I believe I can conservatively expect high 150s-low 160s. I also have 10 years of work experience in the legal field and a fairly decent lifetime-of-struggles type of personal story.

I'll be applying this fall to Stetson Law School in the Tampa area (where I live). I'm choosing this school strictly because of location - I'm in my mid-40s with a family, a home, a husband with a career, friends, etc. I don't exactly have the flexibility that younger students have. As it's a private school and my goal is to work in the public sector, I'm banking on a full scholarship.

What I'm wondering is whether or not I should apply to additional schools to hopefully encourage Stetson to offer me a scholarship. Will they even know if I've applied to and been accepted at other schools or would I share that info somehow? Florida State is a viable (albeit not ideal) option, as are Florida (though less so) and Miami - basically, I need to stay in Florida.

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I applied pretty late in this year's cycle - end of March for Vanderbilt and WUSTL, beginning of May for University of Georgia, and I was planning to apply for UT Knoxville a bit later. I was waiting to get my 170 on the LSAT, which I finally did in February, and then for letters of recommendation, personal statement, etc. Anyway, that's all my own fault I know. :)

I got waitlisted at WUSTL, which was a bummer but not devastating. Last night, though, I found out I was waitlisted at University of GA, which I was not expecting, given that my LSAT is 8 points above their median. It's made me worried that I just simply waited too long and there are no spots left for me.

I'm okay with waiting another year if I have to (I'm already in my early 30s, so I have a full-time job and won't be scrambling for something to fill that year), and the thought of trying the LSAT a bit more and maybe improving is really tempting. I'm just not sure what the rules are for the materials I submitted in my application. Do I need to re-write all my essays and get new letters of recommendation? Can I re-use anything? I'd love to re-use the essays since I bought 7Sage consulting for them, but not if it is a faux pas!

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As I'm figuring out which schools to apply to and checking LSN I figured I should find out if I am considered a URM? If not, it might soften the sting of a HYS rejection :) btw.. I'm Tongan (born in America but spoke the language growing up, involved in the Tongan community in California, visit family in Tonga regularly, etc)

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Thursday, May 10, 2018

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I am struggling with the idea of taking out student loans. I'm fortunate to have none for undergrad, but I'm so concerned that taking out loans of $110,000 will ruin my life and financial future.....SOS. At this point I feel like I shouldn't even go to school unless it's free :(

Any advice to get more comfortable with taking this debt on?

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I'm applying next cycle so it's still too soon for this but I'm curious about one thing....

Do admissions consider LSAT scores taken AFTER you've been admitted??

I'm specifically curious about this scenario:

Take LSAT in June (score JUST ENOUGH to get into schools)

Get accepted to school

Take LSAT again with much higher score, ENOUGH FOR SCHOLARSHIP

Submit new LSAT to score already admitted to

---- Do they consider the new LSAT score for scholarships???? ------

So I know sometimes they put apps on hold for people who are retaking but I'm asking if schools consider scores for scholarships after they've sent a letter of acceptance

Just curious, lmk!!

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Just got into Davis with $10,000/year. I would LOVE to go there. But I'm so scared of taking on that much debt. Stuck between there and a much better financial offer (basically no debt at all) at a very low ranked school. Any advice would be helpful

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My situation involves the following:

  • I applied to the University of Arkansas School of Law, Tulsa, and OKC (All 3-5 hours away)
  • I do have disability accommodations for the LSAT. As it stands already, I am not a strong test taker. Before applying, I registered for the June LSAT. My LSAT score from February 2018 was a 144, and I graduated in December 2017 with a 3.4 cumulative GPA.
  • I am currently working for a defense attorney, where I have been working since in 2015 as a Legal Assistant and Paralegal. I have been working in the legal field since I was age 18, and now I am age 22. My experience is extensive. I have great letters of rec.
  • I have had hesitation asking for my application to be held for review by the Admission Council until I take the June LSAT. This is because by the time that my scores are released and my application is reviewed, it will likely be July. This gives me a short period of time to move from Little Rock and get things squared away so that I am able to attend and do my best as a student.

    However, I have been advised to proceed with my application being held for my June LSAT score to be reviewed in July.

    The problem is, I won't know ANYTHING until July and orientation / school starts in August.

    I really don't want to stay in Little Rock another year. I am ready to go to law school, and see something else for a change. So, If I am accepted to either of those, I fully intend to move. It's a quick turn around but it is doable.

    I feel like this is a waiting game and July is a cloud of doom. Am I doing everything right? Has anyone else been in a similar situation? Does anyone have words of encouragement for this situation? I am worried that I wont be able to make the score (150-155) that the schools are looking for.

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    Hi everyone -

    I am waiting to hear back from one school. The status of my application has been listed as "decision pending" since March 11th. This seems like a long time (maybe it is not - I am also getting anxious), and I am wondering if I don't hear back by the end of this week if it is appropriate to send a LOCI? I have read conflicting advice on sending a LOCI to schools that you have not heard back from. Any input is appreciated. Thanks!

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    So I learned not long ago that LSAC counts all the grades you have ever received. I spent two years at a CC and then transferred over to an university. During my time at the CC, I didn't do so well due to familial circumstances (3.2). Three years later, I am graduating in June with two majors and a minor at a 3.9 GPA. If LSAC counts everything, I'm very afraid that lowers my GPA down to a 3.6 or 3.7 and I'm feeling awful right now knowing that my chances at T10 have been basically dashed due to that rough time in my life. Does anyone have any advice to share?

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    I have a solid but not amazing undergrad GPA, with a double major and a lot of on-campus involvement and leadership activities. I will have 3 years of great work experience when I apply to law school this fall (client-facing, well-known consulting firm, earned a quick promotion). Will the longer amount of time between my college years and my law school applications help alleviate my less-than-impressive GPA (3.65)? Only interested in T-14. Hoping to score in the mid-170s.

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    Hey all,

    As many of you know my application cycle did not go very smoothly. One of the biggest obstacles I faced during this process was the LSAC. My transcripts from about 10 years ago underwent a change after I spoke to the Dean of my old community college. She enrolled me in an academic renewal policy that removes all credit attempted and calculated for grades given at the college. I re-submitted my transcripts to the LSAC, because based on their posted policy at the time my GPA should have been significantly improved. (2.8 - 3.1)

    I fought with them for months, filled out forms they had for me, updated schools of my situation, put my applications on hold, and ultimately I truly believe this is what landed me on all the wait-list as I still have not been able to send a final update to the schools as to what the outcome will be.

    I fought very hard against the LSAC because I knew their policy was wrong. I filed a complaint with the BBB and during the correspondence there they continued to reviel that they did not understand their own policy. The contradicted themselves multiple times, and I even received an E-mail from the BBB agent that stated she saw their inconsistency and left the complain as "unresolved".

    I brought all this to a lawyer, who believed I 100% had a case against them. Their policy was wrong, and they were holding it against me. It was up to them to change their policy, but they DID hold my applications back. He advised me not to litigate though because he thought they'd appeal me to hell. I'm still unsure if I will purse this.

    Some good has come out of this however, the LSAC HAS UPDATED their entire transcript summerization policy due to my persistence. While the LSAC has ultimately crushed my dreams and hampered all my hard work, I have at least ensured that it wont happen to someone else.

    (failing grades, and grades to be excluded are totally different now)

    https://www.lsac.org/aboutlsac/policies/transcript-summarization

    Their new policy explicitly excludes me from having my grades changed now, and replaces ALL the wording I pointed to that showed them why it should be changed.

    It's a hallow victory, I am sitting on a ton of waitlists now and I really do contribute it to this. Especially after e-mailing schools to put my applications on hold for almost a month.

    Just know, you should NEVER back down. You should always fight for yourself. Always fight for what is right, even if it doesn't help you know it can help someone else later.

    I plan on staying on 7Sage, especially if I don't get off a waitlist. I hope to help and get you to realize some of your dreams as well. Keep up the hard work 7Sagers.

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    Hi Everyone,

    I am one of the LSAT takers who are working full-time. I graduated with my B.A. around a year ago. I have been working at a Los Angeles law firm since then. The firm is really busy, which is great, but that means that I work a lot of overtime hours. I cannot just quit and focus on LSAT because I am supporting myself and my mom. I am taking the June LSAT and my preptest scores do not represent my abilities.

    I am just wondering if say I get 163 on the LSAT and two other students got 168, and those students show they were mainly studying for the LSAT for four months or so. Would the universities consider the fact that I had been working full-time (average of 55 hours) since graduating? I am just struggling with the idea that this test will determine my future, whether in getting into my preferred schools or getting some scholarship money. At the same time, I really find it unfair if a university selects a student who gets a higher LSAT score that I could not achieve because I did not have as much time to study. Btw my undergraduate GPA is 3.86.

    Idk I think I am just upset with my preptest scores and wanted to let off some steam.

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    Hello, I have a quick question.

    Do you guys know how to send additional LOR to waitlisted schools?

    Should I use the LSAC service? Will they still be able to foward LOR to schools I am waitlisted at?

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    Okay so my roommates are graduating law school next week. They asked me about my plans and I told them that I’m taking the July LSAT and will be applying for the Fall 2019 cycle. They told me that sitting out 2 years looks bad to admission teams and that I should just go to the local school (that’s not that great and crazy expensive) and then just transfer to get started. They also said it’s easier to get into where I really want to go if you transfer with strong 1L grades. They recommended this option to me since they used this strategy to get into the best law school in our state. I’m not sure it’s true, but I just want to get some advice and weigh all my options.

    Thanks!

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    Hi everyone,

    I have submitted an application to this one law school about two months ago, but it hasn't get back to me with any official decision yet (not even waitlisted or rejected).

    I have email them a LOCI last week, which their office of admissions replied by saying that they will notify the admissions committee of my strong continued interest. But still, no official decision received yet.

    Do you guys think I still have a chance to get admitted into this one?

    Thanks.

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    So I'm on 9 waitlists right now, wondering when they start moving typically? My understanding is that may 1 is a big day for deposits, so lots of schools are getting an idea for who's committing or not and therefore, in theory, should be letting some waitlisters in soon?

    Has anyone gotten in off a waitlist yet this cycle? Or have experience from past years and want to chime in??

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    So as this admissions cycle winds down, it is becoming pretty clear that I need to seriously consider re-applying next cycle. With 7 wait-lists, and no acceptances, it is just the reality of the situation I am in.

    That being said, I know it's not all bad. It gives me another year to build my resume, and to save money, as I will likely be losing a year of funding for law school since I didn't go this year.

    Right now I have a pretty solid resume in my opinion:

  • Marine Corps
  • Federal appellate court
  • State Court
  • Law firm
  • and a few more years of work experience to add to this list

    My stats are not going to move;

  • cGPA: 2.8
  • Degree GPA: 4.0
  • LSAT: 171
  • So, other than re-taking which I might consider, but am not really leaning toward, what can I do to boost my chances at acceptance.

    I plan on having my applications ready to submit to schools the day they open, so I'll apply MUCH earlier in the cycle than I did this time around. Is there anything else I can really do to boost chances at these schools?

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