Hello everyone,

I've been studying for the LSAT for a few months now and got to a 157 so far, but it seems like I can't score higher under timed condition. Usually I score a 165 without timing, so I know that I can do it. I thought that maybe I should switch things up and try a different study approach. Can you tell me how you approached studying for the LR and RC sections specifically? I'm hoping that using a different study method will help me.

Thanks for the #help!

I'm taking the test in two days. The score will not be released until September. The next test date is in October. Should I still study during August-September if I plan on retaking if I am not satisfied with my score? For reference, I already paid for the whole month of August already.

I’m honestly afraid I’ll fail. I feel confident when I’m doing little drills but when I know I have to take a prep test to evaluate my progress, I’m scared. I don’t know if anyone here feels the same. I was wondering if anyone had any tips to get over test anxiety. Thank you

Hello there :D

A couple weeks ago, I started a poll over practice test input. One of the questions that I asked was, "Should I start with practice test 70+?"

The survey showed

48.39% YES

51.61 % NO

As I read through some discussions, I see that some scores are decreasing. I can't help but think that this might be MAYBE because there is a difference between the old and new LSATs. The LSAT has definitely evolved. Some people say that there is a difference between old exams VS. modern exams. Not a large amount but enough to notice on their overall score. As we all know, EVERY point matters haha. I wanted to share this with you all because I would be extremely upset if I started at lets say, PT 15 and once I got to PT 70 I had to learn completely new strategies because they are a little different. I think that for drilling questions, it's fine to use old PT. Where else are we going to get enough questions to drill like 100 on each topic, right? Slowly dying... we're okay... we got this... lol

Obviously I am not an expert. I haven't completed PT1- the most recent. Just wanted to share this information that I have collected.

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I just wanted to seek advice from anyone who started with a lower diagnostic who was able to achieve high 160s-170s.

How did you do it???

I would love some advice as to how you got there and what were some of your "ah-ha" moments?

Hello everyone I'm currently having a panic attack. My LSAT diagnostic was terrible, I'm under quite a bit of pressure from my parents to take the October exam and Im really trying to figure out the best study plan. So far I've been studying anywhere from 6-8 hours a day and really want to use my time as effectively as possible to get the best score and recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

I'm convinced at this point that I'm just not smart enough to do really well on this test. I can never, ever get a 4-5 star question right in the target time. It ALWAYS takes me an extra 30-40 seconds, which is just a deal breaker come test day. Is there anyone here who used to have timing issues and then overcame them? This just feels like it speaks more to my innate abilities at this point.

I'm about two weeks into studying with 7Sage, and I've had a question for a while. Should we complete the syllabus linearly or can we jump around? Should we even be encouraged to jump around? I feel like my skills with Logic Games, for example, are languishing because I'm doing a lot of (useful) prep on basic logic. So, should I continue the course and get back to Logic Games when they come up in the formatting of the syllabus, after almost EVERY logical reasoning section (in reality, 100's of hours of practice from now), or should I try to keep my skills with Logic Games sharp (-7 timed, -1 BR currently) by doing some intermittent practice with them along the way? If so, what should that practice look like?

Maybe I missed something that was explained at the very outset of the syllabus?

It went from PreOrder on Amazon to sold out within a few hours of the supposed release date. I’m sure there aren’t many paper versions in print given the required access to LawHub and digital test for the majority of test takers. I’m wondering if anyone actually got it?

In desperate need of a fresh PT to gauge where I’m at.

Thanks!

Just talking about this with a friend. My test should be about this time next Tuesday. I've planned two full PTs under time between now and then, and to keep shoring up weaknesses in LG, plus do a few timed sections each day, critically BRing. What is your plan?

How do I practice a fourth variable section that is not LR on 7Sage?

whats up fam - it's your boy LSAT_SUS

I recently had a breakthrough in my score but my score is dropping quicker than a girl's interest when she sees my bank account. But I gotta keep this momentum going somehow

Like the modern philosopher once said "if it's up, then it's up, then it's up then it's stuck" - Cardi B. She was rapping 'bout my LSAT score.

A little about me - I'm solid on the 1-4 star Q's on LR and RC. Five stars are 5-stars for a reason. Logic games are a breeeze minus the miscellaneous mfs.

Shoot a comment if you're interested and let's get this shekki ON THE ROAD. LETS GOO.

The only condition I have is that you're sufficiently familiar with the CC language (i.e. causation logic, how to weaken/strengthen causation logic, negating ACs, valid argument forms, and yadda yadda.) If not, it's fine but you should get acquainted with it nonetheless.

OH, and I capped at 174. My last PTS were 160, 170, 172, 174, 163, 168. -0/-1 on LG, -3/-5 LR, -1/-6 RC.

** This is free btw so ya idk someone told me to clarify this.

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I've been so focused on prepping that I've neglected checking whether things I've gotten used to during PT's are allowed during the digital, remote Flex test. Does anyone know the answers to the following?:

Are we allowed to have more than 1 drink on our work surface? (I usually drink both coffee and water)

Are we allowed to drink from that 1 (or more) drink(s) DURING the test? Or only on the 1 minute switching break between sections and the 10-minute break?

If we have to go to the bathroom during a section and simply can't hold it, are we allowed to (obviously taking away precious time from the test) or is it strictly prohibited, resulting in a cancelled test? (I'm contemplating taking urine and bowel suppressants to try to prevent this emergency...)

If we plan to be away from our computers for much of the 10-minute break, how can we keep track of the time elapsed? Is there an audio alarm for the break? I'm guessing if we're not allowed to use our phones or our laptops for any other purpose than taking the test, we're not allowed to set a timer on our phone clocks or on our browsers to keep tabs on break timing.

I know we can't use noise-cancelling headphones to deal with possible environmental noise distractions, but, instead, can we run a white noise machine in the same room in which we're taking the test?

During the test, are we allowed to touch the screen with our fingers while working? (I've gotten used to doing this with games.)

And, lastly, are we allowed to mutter under our breath while working on the test? I know we wouldn't be able to do that in an in-person test because it would be distracting to other test-takers, but in the remote format is it prohibited?

When you focus hundreds of hours in the old PT's and finally catch up, it's another level, but not a level of to train more to exceed.

It's obvious when looking at the meta-scores that for the LSAC too many people are hitting 170 so they are making it so absurd that some questions are bound to cause people to have issues. It's disturbing as well that they are going to remove Logic Games because people are "getting it". And it's obvious that when LG is so clear cut they won't remove questions nor have it contested, yet with new PT I see 30 - 40% answers right ON THE FIRST 10 QUESTIONS.

This test went from understanding the theory behind the questions to making sure you understand any upcoming tricks.

It's outrageous that you have to spend 300-400 hours to get 170s and then slip back to the 160's since God forbid law schools weigh 70% instead of 75% of your weight-in application.

And before people start to defend the LSAC, it's the LSAC that caused the pressure for schools to get this achievement mentality to 170. 170 doesn't mean top 10%, it's the top 2.5% yet schools will do absolutely everything to get into that 170 elite status,

It's already bad enough that Hispanics get average 146, now I'm facing this test like the ending of Glengarry Glen Ross , where I thought I had it until the realization that it was mere delusion.

Im going to take one more PT this week before I test on Sunday. Anyone have suggestions on what PT to take (or a few to choose from) based on similarity to what August will be like?

With the August test coming up, anyone want to share what they eat to fuel their body and nourish their minds? :)

This also coming from someone a little older who can't handle junk food like I was able to when I was in college haha

How do I move past the Blind Review? I just want to see whether I got the problems right or wrong. lol I'm probs an idiot

Hello I am looking for a tutor for LR and RC for the most part. I am really slow at those two sections due to slow reading and have a fear of writing practice tests. #help

I read on Amazon that June 2020 LSAT test will be released soon as a practice test.

Does anyone know when this will be released on 7 Sage and LSAC Law Hub?

Thank you!!

Dear all,

How are we doing? I was just wondering what kind of career options is desirable for those who need to pay back law school tuition loan post-graduation. I am planning to go to T-14 law schools, preferably T-3. If I do not get into T-3, I intend to go to a T-14 law school that offers the most generous scholarship. Obviously, I will need to do well on the LSAT. However, I am just curious of whether how you all are planning on paying back the loan. My anticipation is that if we attend one of T-3 law schools, which do not offer any scholarship, we are allotted 200,000+ USD as a loan. Is it safe to say that we try to get a big law job? Or, do we just go for a job that suits the best of one another's interest (which is teaching for me)? My parents only funded for my education up until college years, and I have 50,000 USD as a debt to pay back to my parents for my master’s degree tuition. In other words, I would need to repay about 250,000 USD as a loan for my acquisition of graduate education (JD, MA). I am unsure of which career route I should research into to make my education business fruitful while efficient. Could you please share your insight with this?

Best,

Ken

Hey all. Getting ready to head off to Cornell on Monday, and while I expect to be checking back in from time to time, I'm sure I'll be much less present from here on out. I don't have a "here's all the stuff I learned" post for you, as that's just not me, but to leave you all with one thing: this test is absolutely conquerable... yes, even for you. Just don't give up.

Final office hours... open discussion and August test run-up - 8/8/21 @12pm EST - TBD. Apologies in advance if I'm a bit haggard... I'll be waking up pretty early to be able to do this and hopefully jump start my transition from Hawaii time to EST.

Google meeting link: https://meet.google.com/njn-rgvd-ouo - timed out... use link below.

2nd link: https://meet.google.com/hyd-swsh-zek

Edit: Thanks everyone!

I'm just curious if anyone feels the same way. Every time I take the LSAT, it feels like a massive race against time and there really isn't a moment where I feel relaxed. It's go-time from beginning to end.

By the end of a section, I just keep thinking "What the heck just happened..." It's like I'm grasping for air by the time I'm done because it's just pure adrenaline from beginning to end.

I wonder if this is normal or if top scorers are just chilling...lol

Hello,

so I've been studying for the lsat since January and am currently scoring 163 on average. Since I'm working full time and have been out of college for +5 years, progress has been slow.

At this point, I'm wondering if there is any realistic chance for me to improve my score to 170 by October. In each section, I'm getting :

LG -3~5 / LG -4~5 / RC -6~7

So this may have been said before and I know that there is no way to really change this but does anyone else feel like sometimes the explanations are like too cursory? Like the instructors will say something like "This answer is just ridiculous", or "That just doesn't make any sense" even when there's clearly a lot of test takers who chose that wrong answer? It seems like the powerscore and certain GMATclub forums are way more in depth about trap answers and certain things. Just want to see if it's only me.