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Wednesday, Jun 30, 2021

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Just for your encouragement, I am a full time worker, work in a stressful environment. I scored 134 in June 2020 test, and June 149 2021 ( Thanks 7sage). I am not really happy but I am satisfied. Hopefully I can get in to a >100 and practice law.

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Hi everyone, I just received my first LSAT score, which is 161...My practice score was ranging between 163-168, so I feel I need retake it. I have a full-time job and my goal would be 170s. Do you recommend me to take it in August or October?

Thanks!

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I couldn't sleep well yesterday since I was so worried about my score. I got up at around 6 AM to check my score and it is 162. This is the third time I took this test: I got 161 in Nov 2020 and still 161 in Jan 2021. Though one-point improvement does somewhat enable me to console myself, I am unhappy. I have been on the waitlist of my top-choice law school which is one of those T14s, so this June test is important for me to improve my chance of being admitted... I hate to say this but I am thinking about giving it up. I have prepared for the LSAT for one year and my diagnostic score is 149 (untimed), and I really appreciate that 7Sage has helped me to increase my score by 13 points.

I know there are people whose scores are lower than mine, but the 162 will still keep me away from my dream school. Moreover, since I already took a gap year after my high school graduation, my family doesn't allow me to gap one more year this time to reapply for the law schools, which means, this is supposed to be the last LSAT I could take in my whole life. My average PT score is 168, so I felt extremely frustrated when I saw the 162. I expected to see a more huge progress like a 3-point improvement, but unfortunately, I don't. I know there are so many people who took the test at least 5 times and got their target scores, and I know I can never be one of them.

I feel so bad to say this, but I don't have any more chance to retake the test, and what's more, I don't wanna retake it anymore. I am tired, anxious, and always wanna cry when thinking about how I let my family and friends down and how all of my efforts become in vain. Thus, to overcome this negative mindset, I plan to take a break this summer before entering the law school which accepts me, so that I can spend time do something else, such as doing workouts, reading books, learning Japanese, etc.

My next step is to go to the school that admits me and then struggle to get transferred next year. (Because this school is much much far away from my home and I wanna meet with my family often, and also, it is more expensive than my dream school). I don't know if I should take another LSAT for the transfer purpose, so I would appreciate if any of you can provide any tips.

Congratulations to all of you who took the June test. LSAT is such a challenging task in our lives and I cannot imagine how brave and grit one should be and how hard one should work to get over it. I apologize if I am not making sense or this post makes any of you who is preparing for the LSAT feel scared.

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I've now scored 168 three times with a 166 sandwiched in between. PTs have been consistently above 170 of late but clearly it hasn't happened on the real thing. Already registered for one last rip in August. Anybody else managed to pull this ignominious feat? I need to commiserate.

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Does anyone know of legal jobs that involve or allow for part-time work? I'm just curious, and would appreciate any and all leads you all have for niches in the field of law (or even outside of law, but suitable for people with a JD) that are amenable to part-time or flexible work.

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I've fallen really really behind on my 7sage self studying due to summer jobs and classes. I'm planning on taking the lsat in early-mid fall. I've taken the lsat before last year, but wanting this time to be my last time.

Can you recommend what lessons really pay attention to for all 3 areas (LG, LR, RC)? If not all three, then at least LG. Because I'm so behind, I don't think it would be beneficial to my studying if I were to play catch up. Instead, I would like to focus on the lessons that really target those areas.

In addition to this, I'm planning on taking as many practice tests as possible. Someone wrote on here once they were taking 3 tests a day which I can only dream of doing, but planning on taking a test every other day.

Any other studying advice and tips would be appreciated! :)

Thank you in advance!

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Some context - I took the Lsat in January and got a low 160s score for the third time. Each time a new section would throw me off (I’d walk out of the test thinking I got destroyed by a section because I genuinely didn’t understand a passage, figure out a game or felt that the LR was hard question after hard question). My official scores were always on the lower end of my test practice anywhere from low to high 160s.

Feeling discouraged, I decided to take a couple weeks off and prepare to retake again this June. I hired a private professional tutor who helped me focus on fundamentals like being extremely precise with my reading and understanding of passages and stimuli where I saw consistent improvements in my practice. By fully understanding the questions and the all the ACs I was able to improve my accuracy a lot. I began timing myself when I could consistently get -2/-4 on LR and -3/-4 avg on RC. I was taking one full timed exam a week and reviewing/taking timed sections during the week. I repeated this up until June where my pts ranged from mid 160s to low mid 170s. I was -2/-4 on Lr, -1/-2 games, and -3/-5 on RC on average on full tests timed. Many misses were from timing on Lr/RC from skipping the PR/PF/insane diagramming or just running out of time. I’d also make mistakes from falling for trap answer choices. I’d always make one small error on LG from misreading or guessing.

This June, I blanked on a game guessing on 4 questions and thought the Lr questions were were difficult to understand especially in the beginning. RC I felt rushed toward the end but I understood all the passages. I’m really upset that I blanked on the game because it was a fair game that was similar to something I remembered in my practice. I don’t know what caused me to miss out on making the necessary inferences and falling apart. ( I had 8-9 mins so I definitely had enough time for this game).

Overall I didn’t think the test was hard and in fact I thought it was easier than the other ones I took. I also don’t believe that a hard test is a reason for not doing well since all the sections end up balancing out. If I had to guess I’d say I missed 5 on lg, maybe 7-9 on Lr and probably at least 3/4 on RC. As you can tell I’m falling way below my average with LG and Lr.

As a result I ended up doing a lot worse than my PTs and didn’t see any improvement from January. I feel confused because I spent so much time, energy, resources studying, and I’ve fallen short so many times.

In terms of my goals I’m not even aiming for a certain score at this point - all I want is to see some improvements. But after so long and so many misses I’m not sure how to move forward.

I’ve done every game multiple times timed, read each passage either from cc or timed sections/test and also done and reviewed almost every LR except for some super old ones. I want to give it one more shot but don’t know how to prepare given what I’ve already done and don’t want to see the same result repeat. Appreciate any advice. Thank you!

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So I'm sure there are tons of previous discussion forum posts about this exact question, but I wanted to make my own so I could insert where I am personally.

I have a 160 score on file from February... I took the LSAT basically on a whim and studied for about a week or two (and that study was largely unproductive since I was taking non-timed individual sections without blind review, etc.).

I've now been using 7Sage for about a month and am progressing very well. It seems like I can make a significant improvement on my February score and open up more opportunities for myself. I think I'm trending towards the 165-170 mark and that feels like a completely different score than the 160 I have currently. However, I've always heard that applying as early as possible is a good thing for law school.

Could someone give me advice on whether or not waiting until early November is "too late" for the next cycle as far as scholarships, etc. are concerned? I understand that every cycle is different, but what's the norm?

I could probably stretch and make it through the Core Curriculum in time for the August LSAT date - but I'd definitely be rushing and wouldn't have the opportunity to really reflect on what I've learned, or to solidify those skills with multiple practice tests.

Any help will be appreciated. Thanks everyone.

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My june test session is on hold for a review. Is there such a hold on file due to score jump between 2 tests. I called LSAC today and they said they have never seen such hold.

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Hi everyone,

I am planning to take the August LSAT and I am having a hard time improving my LR and RC sections. On my past two practice tests I've scored a 161 with BR scores of 170 and 172 (My target score is 166+).

For LR, I've realized that my biggest barrier is time and not skipping questions I find difficult right away. So, I plan on taking timed LR sections this week to address that.

But, for RC, I really do not know how to improve my score. What strategies have worked for you? Do you reccomend getting a tutor at this stage? Should I just do tons of RC passages?

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...be sure to take into account upcoming medians, not last year's posted numbers.

With June score release a few days away, a lot of you will soon be agonizing over whether your score is "good enough" for applications in September, or a retake is warranted. Just a quick reminder that you are heading into another unpredictable cycle, and last year's numbers are not reliable. Example: Cornell is currently sitting at medians of 168/3.86, however their average admit for the closing cycle is 172/3.89 based on self reported applicant data. Columbia is holding a 172/3.82 and admitted an average of 174/3.86. Of course this doesn't mean that everyone (or even anyone) will be jumping 2-4 LSAT points, but there is good reason to believe that in general, medians are going up. Whether schools will see the jump this year as anomalous and stick to maintaining last years medians, or see it as sustainable and try to maintain or even better their new medians I have no idea... conjecture welcome, but I think its reasonable to assume like any cycle that if higher numbers appear achievable, they will target them.

You guys are in a weird timeframe right now where incoming class medians have yet to be released, and IMO its best to play it safe and continue to prep if there is any doubt that your score puts a target school/scholarship outcome comfortably within range. That may sound pessimistic, but you do not want to end up like people this cycle who thought they were good to go and are now looking at joining you for another cycle. There is no shortage of them at every score range. Between now and August-ish (school releases) to December (509 release) median releases, I would not want to see anyone lose valuable prep time and suddenly realize they are behind the curve. If you think you have it in you to do better, my recommendation is to play it safe and keep grinding. You can always stop if you decide it's not feasible/worthwhile.

Contrasting opinions welcome... I'd love to see a discussion to provide everyone with a range of opinions to help with the decision making.

Also good luck on Wednesday... no matter what happens, you all are rockstars.

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Hey everyone, I am new here. Is a year too long to study for the LSAT? A little background about me. I am almost 30, a single mom of one, and I have a 3.9 gpa. I don’t like the idea of cramming this information. As I want to be able to enjoy learning how to master this test. Is a year appropriate?

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I have a tendency to value quantity over quality when it comes to...most things. When I started gearing up for the November test about a month ago I thought 40 hours a week should be my standard, but I work a full-time job too. So I've been going to sleep and waking up outrageously early (7PM-3AM). Would I be better served by just studying less and giving myself a social life again? Or is this weakness creeping in?

How many hours in a day can you truly study effectively? I'd love to know what your sweet-spot is

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I took June LSAT Flex and is nervously waiting for my score. I think I did significantly better than last year ( improving by 20 points I think ) thank to 7sage family. Yesterday, I was panic because I received a notification from LSAC :"We are writing to let you know that your recent LSAT-Flex session is currently being reviewed, along with others, for an incident that was recorded during the administration of the test. Please be assured that your session is intact and your test answers have been recorded properly.

Most reviews are completed within a few days of score release, but some may require a more comprehensive review. We are working diligently to complete the review as quickly as possible. If you have not received your score within 5 days of score release, you may reach out to TestSecurity@LSAC.org for more information."

I can't think of anything that make them flag or put my session on hold, other than briefly lost internet connection but just a few seconds. I did not submit any feedback or complaint because I think I did good and I want to keep my score.

Has anyone experienced with this situation before? I am so nervous that they cancel my score. Please help!

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So, I was just listening to the Powerscore Podcast (the first episode on causality), and Dave said the following: If you want to ask a series of confusing questions about concept differentiation, ask someone to describe the difference between some are not, and not all.

Well Dave, I am confused. They seem like the same to me! The only thing I can think of is this:

Some are not implies a positive amount, there has to be at least 1 of a group that is not like any of the other members.

But not all can mean zero: for example if you say that not all of these apples are green, it could be the case that none of them are green.

The problem that I run into with this, is when I think about equivalent statements:

Not all of the apples are green

Some of the apples are not green.

These are logically equivalent.

Does anyone else have some insight? Maybe he just said it offhand and there really is no difference.

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Hi people,

Since my wifi is much better at my office than at home I'm planning to take my test there. My office computer setup is a laptop hooked up to a second monitor. That means that I'm not staring right into the camera (I look at my monitor, and the camera is on my laptop). Is that setup allowed, or do I need to be using a device that I'm looking at straight on? It'd make sense if I couldn't use the standalone monitor and needed to use my laptop instead, but it would be awesome to be able to use a bigger screen during the test. Thanks in advance!

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If anyone knows any books that are dense -- but not too dense -- that you can read while studying for the LSAT, please list your suggestions. I enjoy topics like basic economics, experimental technologies (i.e. quantum computers), social injustice, or history books, just to list a few. Also, big philosophy guy.

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