Hey folks,

I know that because of burnout, a lot of people advise you take a break. So I did, which was great! I took a week off, and I really feel like I cleared my headspace, feel less anxious, and re-found my reason for wanting to go to law school in the first place. But I've been studying again for about three weeks, and my scores have regressed. I'm not sure what else to do. I want to take the June test, but I'm still at my 160s hump.

How do you get over this? What have you found to be most useful?

Looking for a private tutor online to help with Logic Games and RC

Thank you in advance

I am currently 14 weeks away from exam week. I would like suggestions on how to proceed. I haven't done Logical Reasoning in a long time in following the study schedule and completing reading comprehension passages, so i am unsure as to wether i should spend this week reviewing a bit. I have had practice in logic games as i follow a plan of reviewing 15 games or so a week. I want to be as successful as possible so i am leaning to the 7sage community for assistance please.

Hello hello,

I was hoping I could find some generous hearts to tutor me for free? I've noticed some posts on the forum and I thought to give it a shot and ask! I'd love to hear from you.

If you are interested I would be more than happy to give more info about me.

Talk soon!

Hello everyone - I'm looking for people who might be interested in some free LR LG RC tutoring.

I'm consistently scoring in the high 160s and low 170's and hoping that tutoring will help me perform better on the actual test.

Please PM if you're interested!!

Hello! I am currently stuck on the 155 mark and has been hard for me to get anything higher. Do you guys think it is possible to raise my score by at least 5 points in the course of a month? What techniques or resources have people found helpful in being able to achieve this sort of score raise? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance!

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Am I the only one who would totally pay for this? LG has always been my favorite section because I love logic puzzles (even on the days they don't love me.) And since LSAC is looking to change this section of the test, I would like these puzzles to do in my spare time. Especially since if I manage to get my goal score on the first try, I may never get to see some of the infamous games I haven't had a chance to try yet.

So I'd taken the April LSAT and scored a 166 - it was higher than I'd gotten on PTs [late 70s and the entirety of the 80s] on which I'd been averaging 164-165. But the issue is that my average has dropped to 161 on the three recent tests I've taken, which are from the 60s series.

Should I go back to tests in the 70s to see if there's a change in pattern that benefited me, or is 161 a reflection of my level at the moment?

Hi everyone! I've been consistently taking about 2-3 PTs a week for the past month and at first I was hitting 170s but now I am regressing...my most recent score was a 164... Does anyone have any advice to get me out of this slump?? I'm taking the LSAT in June ;-;

Dear 7Sage Family,

Let me introduce myself. I am as average as average can get. I do not think I am special, and everything I have achieved academically has been 90% hard work and 10% (maybe) talent. Please do not think that I have self-esteem problems; I can assure you I do not. I am in my 30's, grown and confident enough to know where I stand, my strengths and weaknesses. So, I started like most, I guess, overthinking and fearful of how much the LSAT was kicking my ass. Here is my two-year story in a nutshell – that is studying for the LSAT and the LS application process. I started with an in-person class program (Pre-pandemic, remember those beautiful days?) that I thought would help me, "Testmasters," well, it did not. It was a HUGE waste of time and money, at least it was for me. I did that program for 3 months and then 3 other months of self-studying. Then, I signed up to 7Sage Ultimate+, and it was great from the get-go. My score improved shortly after, and it continued to do so as I studied and practice, practice, practice with PTs and problem sets (I love that feature from 7Sage, I highly recommended).

My first PT was 140. Yeah, not great. I continued studying, and in 2 months, my score went up 10 points. Then, I got stuck in the mid 150s. I was ready to give up until I started to focus on my test-taking strategy and my timing for each section. Long story short, I took the November LSAT Flex last year, and I was able to get a 160. Not super high, like some others' scores here, and I did not get accepted into Harvard, Yale, Stanford, or UC Berkley, but I did get accepted into my Target school and was given one of their best scholarships. I’m honored to be starting there this Fall. Needless to say, I am delighted with my results. So, not all stories have to be 170+ scores and acceptances into the LSs I just mentioned. I guarantee you that for everyone here that get a 170+ and acceptances to those schools ((((), dozens like me get good solid scores and still get into their target LSs. Do not feel pressured by other's success stories of 170+ scores and T14 acceptances that your read here; instead, focus on your work and goals. Btw, I have nothing against those who get a 170+ score or are accepted to those schools. Good for them, congratulations, and I wish them the absolute best.(/p)

Lastly, here is my experience during the LS application process. I applied to 11 schools, I was accepted in 7, waitlisted in 3, and denied in 1. I was lucky to have plenty to choose from, and all the financial aid packages offered to me were very generous.

I hope any of this info helps you and feel free to ask any questions, I’d be happy to answer them, if I can (of course).

I have plenty of study materials and LS analytics, so if you’d like some of it please let me know and I’d be happy to send it your way. Just contact me via private message.

Finally, if you feel like you are struggling to improve your score or through the whole LS journey, please let me tell you (and I know many reading this will agree) you are not alone. I was in the same boat, and many people that have passed through 7Sage have been in your shoes. Just keep on going one step at a time. Perseverance is key. Anyway, good luck 7Sagers, and I wish you the absolute best in this arduous but meaningful journey.

Hi everyone,

I am 30% into 7Sage Core Curriculum. I also purchased the LSAT Trainer by Kim and Loophole by Cassidy. I also have a PDF of Cambridge LSAT. Do you think these materials are enough to prepare for the LSAT? Should I additionally purchase PowerScore Bible series?

Please help!

Hi everyone!

I am going to be taking the LSAT-Flex for the first time in June, and am hoping to only have to write it this one time. Accordingly, I have been trying to do as much studying and reviewing as possible between now and then. My average score has been fluctuating quite a bit, ranging from 160 - 170.

I recently completed PrepTest 87 (June 2019) and finished with a score of 164. However, I am having difficult understanding some of the questions I got wrong. I have listened to some explanation videos, but am failing to see why the multiple choice answer I chose is not "more right" than the correct answer.

If anyone could explain any of the following questions, I would really appreciate it (specifically, why the answer I chose is incorrect).

S1 - RC: #3, 11, 13, 14, 24.

S2 - LR: 14, 17, 18, 19, 24, 26.

Thank you!

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I've been PTing in the 170-178 range, with quite a bit of fluctuation in this range. I scored a 170 on the actual exam and I'm aiming for a score in the high-170s.

Given my personal schedule/commitments, I'll basically have to take 4 months away from studying for the test. During this time, I really won't be able to study with the exemption of possibly one day per week. I will have time to study after these 4 months, though. I'm not in a huge rush to retake the test.

I think I know the fundamentals very well, with the exemption of some topics: I'm not 100% solid on Formal Logic yet and I haven't really spent a lot of time working on the rare game types, namely pattern games, mapping games, circular games (according to the PowerScore classification).

I'm not quite perfect on any of the sections yet, but I have gotten in the -0 to -3 range for each. I probably need more work on all three sections.

After about 4 months away from the test, I might need some refreshing of the fundamentals. I'm not sure exactly how much I'll have forgotten. But I'm sure I can get the knowledge/speed/fluency back quite quickly even after 4 months away from the test. I've been on 7Sage for a while now, but I've just never used the Core Curriculum. I've mostly just watched the explanation videos by J.Y.

Is it worth going through the entire Core Curriculum? How long does it take to do so? And will someone scoring in the 170s already find value in doing so?

Also curious about those of you who have gone through Mike Kim's LSAT Trainer. I've already read the PowerScore LG and LR books and the Manhattan RC book. I've watched a lot of J.Y.'s explanations for all three sections. I bought the Trainer a long time before I actually started studying but I've barely touched it. I've heard good things about it. But I'm just wondering whether this is just far too basic for someone already in the 170s.

Thank you all!

Is it possible to buy the prep plus package only for a month? I haven't seen the option on law-hub so I was wondering if that's possible [though it doesn't seem to be, unfortunately].

Feeling extremely disheartened in recent days; I always seem to either completely screw up or make silly mistakes on RC/LG. No idea how to break out of this because something or the other always crops up to bring down my score.

hey everyone, I'm trying to change the credit card I have on billing with 7sage. do I need to cancel and re subscribe or something? will my progress be lost? sorry if this has been done before, but thanks!

I have found that I am much more attentive during my PTs when I consume a moderate amount of coffee. This would be expected. That being said, it comes with the side effect of non-stop bathroom breaks. The alternative is caffeine pills (~100mg), which would not have the same adverse effect. Unfortunately, the FDA will not allow pills to be made with pure caffeine because people could have cardiac arrest. This also means that the pills typically have other sketchy ingredients to fill in the gap. Caffeine would especially help with reading comprehensions and maintaining awareness. Any ideas?

I'm currently PT'ing in the low 170's. Got a 170 in April after PT'ing in the high 160s. Like many, I really want to try and push above 175. I work full time. Should I take June, August, or October? Part of me feels like a month is not enough to comfortably PT in the high 170's. How long did it take you to PT from low 170's to high 170's?

Hey y'all,

I've been studying since January part-time with the LSAT Trainer, and recently got 7Sage to compliment my learning. I hear that people often see their biggest score increases when they drill PTs, that they spend 2-3 months on them, and that it's the best way to get accustomed to the exam. I'll be taking the August LSAT, roughly 90 days from now. At the pace I'm at, I expect to finish the CC in 40 days, leaving 50~ days for PT drilling. Will I be too rushed after finishing the CC to get ready for the exam, and if so, are there any CC sections that people just gloss over?

Thank you! : )

Was wondering how people do this. I have recently done the first RC/LG, and then go to the longest one. then do the rest.

Hello friends. I'm curious about what metric our practice tests are gauged against. The "average" score that is shown next to my practice test results - is that the average of 7sagers while they're working on the curriculum? Is it an average of everyone who has taken the LSAT? Is it the average of students who are studying for the LSAT?

Thank you in advance.

#help

Any help on this question @Juliet-- would be greatly appreciated! If i were to pull out of taking the June test for example, what is the last date i can do so where it won't show up on my record?

Thanks!

After nearly 8 months of studying, I've finally made the leap into the 170s. I feel so relieved and happy that all this work is paying off.

To give a bit of background, I began studying last Fall by myself out of a workbook. I had no real idea about the "racket" that exists around studying for the LSAT, so I figured any study guide is just as good, plus I didn't want to pay a ton of money before I knew I needed to.

So I self-studied, and improved by a lot - first PT was a 155, and my Jan Flex score was a 167. Huge leap, and I felt good about it, but toward the end of that test prep I was becoming incredibly frustrated by how I was getting stuck in the upper 160s.

After only 2.5-3 months of 7Sage, I've made that leap and just had my first 171 PT (before blind review)!

I think what really did help was the timeframe. I know it sounds completely insane when JY says you should ideally spend a year studying for this test, but it did help to percolate on these concepts. I think what facilitated the leap was a really fundamental understanding of two things:

Argument structure. Being really quick and accurate on determining this is a premise, this is a sub-conclusion, this is the main conclusion...especially for the harder, wordier questions, this foundational knowledge is what kept me from panicking toward the back half of the LR section. Accuracy is key here, which I honed in all these f-ing Problem Sets! Do the Problem Sets! Consider it like homework in high school - it's a time suck, but it's training your brain like lifting weights.

Complete understanding of Sufficient vs. Necessary, and how to translate to and from Lawgic quickly and accurately. At this point, the questions I'm missing are mostly ones where I either screw up the Lawgic translation, or I don't "have enough time" so I try to speed through thinking that my brain is a little bit better than it is at holding these concepts without jumbling them. I have a study sheet that I keep next to me while I work that breaks down the 4 categories of Lawgic indicators, and I will constantly glance at it as I go through the lessons and Problem Sets. I take it away during the PTs, but I allow myself this security blanket during the Problem Sets because again, it helps me not panic and it's kinda like training wheels...the PTs are the time to take off the training wheels and see how you hold up on your own. If you feel like you're getting totally bogged down in remembering the Lawgic indicators, try to find ways to give yourself these training wheels and slowly take them away. Like the lifting weights analogy, you've gotta build up to the heaviest lifting.

So while I came to 7Sage hoping to get some great insider tips or that intangible, key thing I was missing, and discovered that I really, really just needed a stronger foundation. For those worried about the breadth of material you may still have to study, I hope I can encourage you all to not skimp on the basics, even if they feel redundant. I cannot tell you how many "hard" questions I was able to blow through because I could identify the structure and specifically how the premise relates to the conclusion, and therefore realize that all the wrong answers were way off because they didn't relate to the premise and conclusion. The test began to open up for me once you solidified a fundamental understanding of grammatical structure (and took my ego out of the picture).

Best of luck to all of you, and hope you all find the same satisfaction as I did today!