I just don't feel like taking it. I want to lie to myself that I have no limit by not taking cold diagnostic test.

Any opinions?

Hey, if you've gone through all of the CC i'd really appreciate some advice:

How long did it take you to go through it all? Would you change that if you could go back in time.

Did you go through it in the order as it is listed?

Did you go through all the CC before you started taking prep tests and timed sections?

Did you solve all the practice sets at the end of each sections as soon as you were done with the section or did you leave some for later?

Also, to anyone: what do you think of the way I've been studying.

First go through the lessons and watch the videos (while taking notes). If there is no video I'd just read through the article provided. But if there is a video I do not read ( i found they usually cover the same thing. Should I be reading everything? )

Then, I try solving the practice examples alone and follow that by watching JY's explanation to all of the examples as I solve them to build the thought process and logic.

Finally, I solve all the problems sets. I try to take them all timed but if I find myself struggling then I will take a few untimed. I BR the ones I am doubtful off but I am not sure if I should be BR every single question. I then watch JY's explanation on the questions I got wrong. Should I watch all the videos?

Am I being thorough enough or an I skipping certain important things?

Thank you in advance.

Hi I am trying to sign up for the ultimate+ course and I'm seeing that it requires an LSAT prep plus for another 100 bucks. Can I not access the material unless I have the prep plus thing?

I feel like for the some questions (like some of the really hard ones), they want to waste your time on making you handle answer choices A through D, when E is the right answer.

I can't get the data on this because I don't want to spoil the answers for myself, but I'm wondering if this is true or not.

Anyone else feel this way?

I feel as though I am going crazy. I had done a number of prep tests before using 7sage but I kept track of which ones I had taken. I am doing tests I have not done before now and most the questions feel familiar. I know they use the same stem multiple times but I feel as though my good scores are coming from the fact I have done these questions before although I may not have done them before. Is this happening to anyone else?

Is it possible to schedule the LSAT flex in the middle of the night? Taking the test in the middle of the night would be the most safe option for minimizing disturbances for my environment, but I was wondering if it was even possible.

Are available test times on a 24-7 basis for your region? In previous proctorU registrations I only looked at the specific time I wanted so I didn’t really look at how wide-ranging the times that they had were.

For instance, if I was in the region (Europe, Africa, and the Middle East), would the time slot “3 am” in the UK even be an option for me haha, or are all the time slots limited to just early morning to reasonable nighttime hours. If anyone remembers that would be helpful!

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Side note:

IF ProctorU has 24-7 availabilities, I am also of course curious to hear about any health/scientific comments on health impacts/performance of switching to a nocturnal life. (I used to wake up at 9 AM, sleep at midnight). It would be a major change, but there are 16 days to go until Jan 19 so I think it's possible to adjust to being nocturnal. Just not sure if there might be unknown consequences.

Is it possible to schedule the LSAT flex in the middle of the night? Taking the test in the middle of the night would be the most safe option for minimizing disturbances for my environment, but I was wondering if it was even possible.

Are available test times on a 24-7 basis for your region? In previous proctorU registrations I only looked at the specific time I wanted so I didn’t really look at how wide-ranging the times that they had were.

For instance, if I was in the region (Europe, Africa, and the Middle East), would the time slot “3 am” in the UK even be an option for me haha, or are all the time slots limited to just early morning to reasonable nighttime hours. If anyone remembers that would be helpful!

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Side note:

IF ProctorU has 24-7 availabilities, I am also of course curious to hear about any health/scientific comments on health impacts/performance of switching to a nocturnal life. (I used to wake up at 9 AM, sleep at midnight). It would be a major change, but there are 16 days to go until Jan 19 so I think it's possible to adjust to being nocturnal. Just not sure if there might be unknown consequences.

Hi! I took the LSAT in November and got a 166, so this isn't one of those "I got 170+" stories.

Some background about me; a year and a half ago (July 2019) I had the brilliant idea that with my incredibly low gpa I couldn't get into any grad program I wanted but law school was much more "splitter-friendly" so I'll just take the LSAT and become a lawyer! I argue...sometimes. That's what lawyers do right? I was super lazy, unhealthy, played video games all day, and watch tv shows when I was too lazy to press buttons.

So I bought an LSAT test booklet (62-71) and was like ok Diagnostic time! I tried the first question (I think it was LR?) then the next. Couldn't even finish the section or the rest of the LSAT for that matter since I was so mentally exhausted and tired. And I missed half of the few that I got right when I later checked. Idk what diagnostic score that counted for, but somewhere in the 130s maybe. That was my starting point.

After revamping a lot of my life I ended up consistently getting a 162, then retaking and getting a 166 while scoring mostly in the 170s. After having gone through that, I look back and realize how fortunate (financially and time-wise) I was to have been able to make the steps to get that far. Which leads me to the point of the post.

Skipped background, here's the point; I've received a lot of free information on this and other websites, and having finished the past year and received essentially free tutoring from u/lsat_is_samsara (thanks a lot to that guy for his patience), I decided I'd like to offer tutoring like he did as well. Granted he's a genius, but whatever I can offer through zoom or discord I'd be happy to offer it to anyone who might need/want it.

I also have an ulterior motive; I actually enjoyed the process of trying to master the LSAT. And then finally accepting my test score rather than vehemently obsessing over a 170. Which I'm still somewhat sore over. I think the LSAT made me a better person and a better thinker. I swear the LSAC doesn't pay me to say these things; forcing myself to assess how I think and reason was very helpful in other aspects of my life (emotional health, decision making, investing etc.) So if I can help instill some of that in some of the prospective students who are maybe railing against the frustrations they feel about the test, I'd like to do that.

Some information/ideas off the bat from me; (this will be for people who maybe just started the LSAT, though feel free to read if you wish)

Logical reasoning; relationship between the premise/conclusion is paramount. Attack it with everything you've got, try to destroy the opposition for ever considering making such a fallacious argument.

Ex: If we hire more employees, we'll make more profits! You: What about the costs of scaling up? What if the market is already saturated with our product and our increasing production will drive prices down? What if tomorrow an earthquake happens, the employees die and they all had earthquake insurance?

Reading comprehension; my most difficult to improve, yet imo the most valuable to work on from the beginning. Read everything critically? Reading a novel? Why is the author saying this? How does relate to previous chapters? Reading a news article? What is the point of the piece? How does the author express their main point and whose view points are being used here? Question everything. And practice whenever you can. You will be reading a lot! Best fall in love with it.

A lot of people who strive to become lawyers come from non-stem backgrounds with low doses of math. I think this hurts people, especially for this test. Every answer is 100% correct. There is no "well let's agree to disagree". This is, basically, a math test. Instead of variables like x, y, z you have words that have values. And instead of asking you to solve for x, it asks you to find the flaw (or how to correct it). Some questions recently have definitely become much less clear cut, but the education of math has also become a lot more complicated as time goes on. This may appear like bad news, but the good aspect of this is, you can figure it out. It's understandable and reliable. Once you start getting a question type, you can rely on that experience to master other like questions.

LG; this is one which a lot of test takers complain that it's unrelated to law. To me, it's the most apt testing of one's "lawyering" skills. Granted my lack of experience in law may bias me, but LG is testing your ability to understand the rules of a system, and how to play the game. Imagine a client asking you about tax law. You have to know the laws/statutes (rules of the system) and what options your client has to optimizing their situation (playing the game). It becomes more complicated than that, but this is a pretty simple start to that mentality. Plus, this is the section you can practice and get 100% nearly every time!

If you have any questions, feel free to reach out! Otherwise if this was uninteresting to you, or if it didn't help, then I wish you well this new year and hope you get the score you deserve (if you're still taking it)!

And if you disagree with anything I say, please let others know in the comments; I might not think I'm wrong by saying the above, but someone else may read what I wrote and take it at face value. Unless they're practiced in reading LSAT stimuli lol.

EDIT: So a lot of people have been contacting me or writing here on how to contact me. You can message me personally here and if you're comfortable with a call, leave either an email or a number for me to zoom/call you along with a comfortable time/date so that we can schedule something this week! I am PST, and free generally after 3 pm! I do have other obligations so that is not set in stone, but I will do my best to circumvent it and respond to all questions/requests for tutoring.

Please hedge your expectations as I am not a professional tutor and will most likely deviate in some areas regarding their assistance! Good luck to all!

Hi everyone. I'll be taking the LSAT Flex for the first time in a few days. I've read on here that proctors will interrupt if they cannot see your face in the camera. Are we able to see ourselves on our screens? How can I make sure my face is visible at all times? I'd like to avoid being interrupted. Thanks in advance!

How do i take my PT's flex style (3 sections)? it's making me take 4 sections.

I am struggling to make a problem set if I want to add LR,LG and RC. Is anyone else having this problem or know how to fix it. I just want to make a small multiple section quiz for myself. Any help would be great!

The contact number I have for LSAC doesn't work. Is there currently a way to contact LSAC by phone?

Does anyone have any advice about when it is a good idea to log into their Proc U account on test day? Also, I heard someone say that we might have to turn on/off webcam mirroring? Your insight would be appreciated.

Many of you like myself spend today reflecting on what a year it has been and look forward for what's to come in the following year. As I sat down and thought about my journey thus far with the LSAT and what is to come, I felt compelled to share words of encouragement with this wonderful community.

I started this journey more than a year ago now and with wishful thinking that I could study for 3 months and put it behind me. Once I realized that it wasn't that simple for me, I had to readjust and become comfortable with delaying not one but now two application cycles. I share this for those who feel immense pressure to stay on a directed path and deadline. If you have the opportunity to forgo an application, do not fear delaying, do not fear time. Seriously, don't let the fear of how long it could take to achieve your goal stand in the way of getting there. Remember that it isn't the destination but your growth in the journey. "Never give up on your dream just because of the time it will take to accomplish it, the time will pass anyway" - Earl Nightingale

One of the worst mistake I made in the beginning was putting myself down and questioning whether I was even "smart enough" to make it. Don't sabotage yourself by adopting negative attitudes about your intelligence or abilities to reach your target LSAT score. The pursuit of creating success should be you taking care of yourself first which means not putting yourself down. Success happens when you show up powerful and through believing yourself. "The happiness of your life depends upon the quality of your thoughts" - Marcus Aurelius

Failure. There is no such thing with the LSAT, it took me quite some time to understand this. I thought my diagnostic of a 147 was a failure, that getting an entire problem set wrong was a failure, that not seeing improvement meant I was failing. All of these aren't failures. I started to think of each question as a rung on a ladder; you go rung by rung, one step at a time. Sometimes you don't think you're progressing until you step back and see how many steps you've climbed. Every missed question is just an opportunity to get better, be persistent in your mindset and keep trudging through until you achieve results. I'm a huge sports fan, so I'll use this analogy for anyone out there who may be able to relate. When you drop a basketball it bounces. Every time you let it bounce without touching it, it becomes lower until it settles on the ground. If you keep dribbling, it will keep bouncing. You have to keep dribbling, you have to keep bouncing back despite how many times the test tries to make you settle. Even if you don’t yet know how you will resolve the task, keep bouncing. "No man is more unhappy than he who never faces adversity. For he is not permitted to prove himself" - Seneca

Be ready to face any challenge and overcome it. Be hungry for success. Keep going no matter what.

Remember, "Man cannot remake himself without suffering, for he is both the marble and the sculptor" - Alexis Carrel

Don't hesitate to reach out if you have any questions! Best of luck :)

With about a few days remaining, it should be said that the actual testing interface is not identical to the 7Sage practice test interface. Go poke around your LawHub account and do some questions in there. That is the environment the test will replicate.

Hi guys,

I'm preparing for the January LSAT flex this upcoming weekend. I will also plan to take the April and July 2021 LSATs as well.

So far, I've been doing a lot of drills and untimed work, with some timed work intermittently. It improved my BR scores to be at/above the target score (173). But occasionally I rush the process and get a lower BR score. I've been doing this after the core curriculum up to PT 53.

I recently took several timed PTs (72, 73, and 82), scoring lower than my previous timed scores and BR. I'm not worried about the LG portion, but feel that I need to be doing much better in LR and RC. I'm going to stop taking PTs after PTs, as I feel that I'm not making the improvements that I am hoping for, particularly in the LR section.

I've heard from Josh's webinar series that one should develop a study plan after BR and analysis of the latest timed PT, to work on one's weaknesses. I've already used up PTs 7 - 52 and as I plan a set of drills for specific question types in LR, I'm thinking of drawing them from PT 54 - 56. Afterward, I will take a new timed PT (probably 74), BR, analyze, and drill the question types that I got wrong from PT 57 - 59. Repeat, hopefully, until a timed score of 173.

How does my plan sound ? Am I pulling from the right pile of PTs for drilling my weaknesses? In other words, should I solely be making drill sets from PT 1 - 35? Or, on the other hand, am I spending too much time on drills/untimed work and instead should be focused on doing timed PTs and BR instead?

All the best.

Hi guys, I am currently a 0L and will be starting law school in fall of 2021. I have been looking into the 7sage law school explained courses and was wondering if anyone can weigh in on the pros and cons of it? Additionally, do you find the courses helpful and what part of the course has been most helpful to you? I know it's a relatively new addition to 7sage so I wanted to get some feedback from actual students before signing up for the whole course so any thoughts would be appreciated. I just want to get my feet wet before diving into law school so I at least have a sense of what I'm getting myself into before 1L starts lolol

So after getting a 176 and 175 on two PTs (81 and 86) I took 75 as a flex and got... a 168. I tanked on RC (-6) and also did fairly bad on LR for what I've been scoring (-3). Bright spot was a -1 on LG but overall it was not great. I this is tied for my worst RC score (I also got -6 on PT 70 a few weeks) and I'm sort of deflated even though I'm aware that I'm probably more likely to get -2 or -3 on RC since that's what I usually get. I feel like I've neglected RC and honestly 7sage's methods don't help me. I've been listening to the Powerscore podcast and I've considered buying the RC bible and cramming it before Sunday. However, I'm worried about a) burn out and b) that I'm overreacting. I don't know if there was anything off about this PT although I might have gotten overconfident after hitting those high scores. Should I take more PTs before Sunday? The Powerscore podcast says no because a bomb might put me into a spin (already kind of happened).

This was a mess of a post but any insight would be super helpful

So I'm pretty good at the logic games section, and LR. Unfortunately, with logical reasoning, I see my mistakes but just...didn't pick the right answer, when I knew how to get there? I'm missing probably 5 on that section, 4 of which were dumb and I guess I "could have" gotten them right.

For reading comprehension I have the information I need to answer the questions, but still miss too many from just poor judgment. Any advice?

Hi all!

Hope everyone had a Happy New Year!

I haven't been studying much since I was focused on finding employment after being laid off from COVID, however, I'm happy to say I'll be starting a new job this week, and I feel like I can refocus my attention on the LSAT.

The last time I studied consistently was probably early November. I did a bit here and there throughout November/December, but I would say probably only an hour or two every other week. I feel like I'll be rusty getting back into more of a strict schedule, and like I may have "forgotten" my strategies for LR/LG. Does anyone have any tips for someone who's taken a break for this long and is now returning to LSAT studying again?

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

Thank you :)

Hi all!

Taking January and just trying to avoid any potential mishaps as much as I can. Was curious about the devices everyone used to take their Flex exam on (for those who have already tested). I have a Macbook Air 2020 that I'm generally confident about but I also read somewhere that Macs are less compatible with the system - may have just been an anecdotal story though.

Also any other tips for taking Flex? I've heard horror stories of proctors messaging test-takers and causing them to lose time, so I'm trying to avoid anything that could get me "in trouble" lol.

Thanks :)

Hey folks! I just began studying for the LSAT full time (30hrs/wk) a few days ago intending to take July/Aug. I'm hoping to get some advice from you guys on a couple of things with regards to the CC.

I am struggling to keep up with my generated study schedule. For example, a lesson like 'Intro to Arguments' may say that it requires 2hrs to complete, but I find that it usually takes me twice as long (or more) to actually finish because I handwrite notes, pause the videos, try the exercises, review, etc. Currently, the schedule says I should be done the CC in 2 months, but if its taking me double the time will it take me 4 months to finish? Is this normal or am I doing something wrong?

I finished the 'Intro Arguments' and 'Grammar' lessons and I'm debating if I should jump ahead and start with learning LGs first? I've been told some people prefer learning LG, then LR, and finally RC. Thoughts on doing this or should I just stick with the order of the CC?

Thanks guys!

Hi all,

I did PT 86 on Law Hub (got a 175!) but when I was inputting my answers on 7sage to add the test to my analytics, the RC section had 26 instead of 27 Qs. Is this just me?

Hello!

I took the test the first time July 2019 right when they began to switch to digital (I had a paper test) and got a 163. This was after only a month and a half of studying, using only 7Sage and I improved from a 154 diagnostic. I am looking to take the test again before applying this fall and would like to improve my score to either high 160s (168-169) or to the 170s (which obviously would be ideal). Ideally I would take it in April (before I have to start going back into work). So I have a few questions:

Thanks in advance for any help or advice!

Hello 7Sage community!

I feel as though this is a pretty common issue people have when it comes to test, so I thought I'd seek out the community's advice on the matter.

I've always had a problem when it came to tests and being timed. I get anxious and basically skim through the question and answers, only to find that I've scored terribly low. And in turn, when I'm not timed and take my time reading and answering questions and answers, I find that I've scored pretty high.

So I ask anyone/everyone who reads this to please leave some advice as to how I can be less anxious and improve my score while being timed.

Thanks for reading. :)

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