How long will it take it improve?

I'm reapplying with my low 170s score this year, already getting much more favorable results just on the basis of applying early vs. late. With most of the pressure of initial decisions hopefully being alleviated by Dec./Jan., do you all think it would be worth it to retake a score that is already at/above median for all of my target programs? GPA is above 75th everywhere.

Mostly, I would be retaking for a shot at maximizing scholarship offers or getting a late admittance if I end up WLed at a target school. I've only been studying on and off since I took the exam last February, but I'm fairly confident I could get 175+ on a retake, especially without the added nerves of admissions decisions hinging on the score.

What do you all think? Is it worth the stress of 3 more months of study for what may or may not increase $$$ or get me off a WL? The scholarship/WL game just seems so uncertain...

Any input from someone in a similar dilemma would be much appreciated!

The air quality in northern CA is bad and getting worse because of the fires. Does anyone know if LSAC is going to do anything about that this Saturday? I'm testing at College of Alameda. I'm going to give them a call tomorrow to see what's going on. Maybe we'll just have to test while wearing masks...

Yoohoo 7Sagers!

My name is Pacaque and @"J.Y. Ping" anointed me the official LSAT predictor. I'm here to make predictions about the November 2018 LSAT. I'm not just any macaque. I'm a Celebes crested macaque and that means I can see into the future. I like to eat a lot of fruits but every once in a while, I'll have some protein too, whatever I can find crawling around. Oh and another thing. I get calls from people in Pennsylvania asking all sorts of intrusive questions about me and my mates. Like what kind of alarms call we give to warn each other of predators and how intimate our babies are with their mothers ???🐵??? This is weird for me. But enough about me.

I know you all are nervous about the upcoming test. I want to give you a hug. And I want to gift you the knowledge of my foresight. Therefore, I predict the following:

curve: -10.6

number of flaw questions on both LR: 7

number of mss questions on both LR: 4

number of sequencing games: 2

number of grouping games: 2

number of total LSAT questions: 101

number of passages on the law: 1

number of questions having something to do with monkeys: at least 1

Woah woah woah, you're thinking. All these specific, precise, and falsifiable predictions? Pacaque, you're really going out on a precarious limb there.

I know! But I'm a monkey. I'm good with limbs. And this way, when PrepTest 86 is released, we can check these predictions and you'll see why Nostradamus can't hold a candle to Paqacue the Prediction Macaque.

And I have one more prediction. I predict that you too have the power to predict the November 2018 LSAT. After all, you've done like what 30+ PrepTests? There's nothing you haven't already seen. You, my furless friend, are set. I invite you to join me in making predictions. If you turn out to be right, we can eat a banana together. 🍌

I've FP'ed all the games up to this point, and I didn't do TOO badly on this game, but it definitely tested me pretty hard. The other three games were extremely standard so they weren't a problem. Are these games (like Game 3) worth focusing on, or are they so unique it will be difficult to carry anything substantial forward from them? I know JY said there were several games in PT 1-35 that are no longer very applicable, and I'm wondering if that goes for any of the games in 35 and up.

The school requires 2 LORs.

The total number of required documents is 2.

The school will only accept up to 3 LORs.

The total number accepted cannot exceed 3.

Accepts letters of recommendation when the initial law school report is ready to be sent and when LSAC has received at least 2 letters of recommendation.

The law school report will be updated and sent each time LSAC receives a letter of recommendation.

Does this mean that if I'm waiting on one more professor for a letter (I've assigned two letters {which is the number required for this specific app} to this application. Only one of them is received. But waiting on another), and I submit my application now without having my professor having uploaded my letter -- the professor can upload it later and the law school report will update it?

Basically what I am asking lol is if I can go forth and pay the application fee and submit my application, even without one of the letters assigned being received yet?

Are there any supplemental sources you suggest? I've been looking at getting either the LSAT Trainer or the Manhattan LR but was not sure which one would be best fit. My weak areas are Flaw Method of Reasoning Questions, MSS, and NA/ Pseudo NA questions. I've went back to the CCs but still feel like I'm not completely grasping these question types. I would appreciate any advice! Thanks!

Remember! They've changed their policy since September about identification. It now has to match exactly with what you inputted for LSAC.

My name is not standard, and although I always write my name as one word, government offices always separate my name into two parts. So I had to update my profile to match my ID exactly last week. Make sure you guys do the same!

They say it takes 3-5 days for them to get back to you, but in my case, they updated my name in minutes after I sent the email, so I think they're trying their hardest to accommodate people who have to make changes in response to the change in policy.

Just a PSA~ Talk to you all after Saturday. =)

My gpa is 3.66 and I am aiming for the T14, so I have decided to delay a cycle to test in June! I am asking for strategies to go from 161 to 170+. The highest BR I have had so far is 170. How exactly should I study and improve? What tips do you have?

Taking suggestions on the following dilemma:

I started studying in late June - I worked through 1 lesson per day of the LSAT trainer, did the prescribed drills, and completed that in about 2 months. From there I have done mostly timed sections (all of 72-81) and 62-68; however, I have only taken approximately 5 or 6 full length exams. I started at a 143 cold diagnostic and my scores are 156, 154, 158, 161, and 154. I got logic games down to avg -4 (some later PTs killed this average with the miscellaneous games). I feel confident there now. I do not feel confident in LR although I feel much more prepared than I did 1 month ago.

Here's the dilemma - I am taking the test Saturday. My goal when this all started was to get a 162. I really would like to start law school next fall and not wait a whole year; however, I absolutely know I am capable of a significantly higher score than what I will get on Saturday.I really think I can get 170+ if I did the 40 plus tests took all the time, but is it worth waiting another year? I am 25, turn 26 in March, and a life underwriter (risk selection for a big company) so work is very draining - lots of reading and critical thinking throughout the day. So, studying has felt rushed and stressful. Money is also a big factor in this equation due to lots of undergrad debt from a private institution.

If I take the nov test and continue to study for the January, do you all think that 10ish weeks would be sufficient to get to the 165 mark? Obviously I am nowhere close to the prescribed 40 PTs though. So say I'd do 1 PT per weekend for 10 weeks and some sort of light drill work during the week on LR. Do you think that would give me a good shot at 165?

This is incredibly scattered and non linear - forgive me for that. I'm in full stress/evaluation mode.

Thanks for feedback.

-P

I was wanting to apply for Fall 2019, but I'm not sure what my chances will be at the T14. I did look at the predictor and was quite discouraged. I am hoping to score better on the LSAT on Saturday, but highly considering cancelling it. It's strange because I do get 170 as my BR score, but I am struggling to make it my real score. Any suggestions? Should I just try it and see what I get on this exam, or should I just wait another cycle? I am pretty set on Top 14 though, preferably Michigan or Northwestern.

Since the Mastermind watch is banned, I need a watch very quickly in time for the exam on Saturday. I had purchased one from Kohl's but it is too loud. Does anyone know where to get a silent watch??

I know this seems bizarre, but I am consistently doing better on RC sections that I drill online rather than ones I have printed out from the official PTs... The only explanation I can come up with is that the printed RCs are always tiny and really dark, which makes it harder to read, which may in turn be reducing my comprehension and speed. Does anyone else experience this difference?

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Hey, what is everyone doing to try and improve speed on LG. It seems I can get through three and the fourth is always a fill in. I have in no way mastered the LG section and probably never will, but I have the basics down. It seems when I pick up speed I miss things.This also happens on RC sometimes. Thanks!!!

I get tripped up whenever I see a word I have never encountered before. Words such as unimpeded, unadulterated, ephemeral, impartial etc..

First, can someone post the link to where we have a selection of difficult words that typically appear on the LSAT. I remember it being somewhere in the curriculum.

Second, how do you handle a situation where you see a word and you don't understand the meaning ? It could lead to choosing the wrong answer, simply because of the misinterpretation of a word.

Which watch should I get for Saturday? I think I saw a video of a watch that rotated on the top, if that makes sense. I'm not sure if that one is still allowed. Which watch are you guys using? Please provide links if you can! Thank you!

I an taking the March 2018 LSAT. My diagnostic was a 150 and my goal is 168-170. I know 7sage suggests 1yr of studying but I have to take the march LSAT for the program I am appying to. My weakest subject during the diagnostic was LG, but after blind review I got them all right, so timing is my biggest issue. What is the best way to attain my goal considering im a student and dont have 40hrs a week to study?

Anyone have any thoughts on how this law suit will affect law school admissions? If the plaintiff's win, will it only affect undergraduate institutions? How immediately will that change URM admissions? Will it change it at all? Race is an evident part of many people's identity, and can be written all over their application. Will diversity be something schools won't promote? Because diversity doesn't always involve race. I'm very curious about this case. I'd love to hear what you guys are thinking.

Some of these explanations are so long, verbose, and full of stuff that's not relative that I'm having a hard time paying attention. JY is all over the place. Do I really need a nine minute video for two minutes of information?

Hey guys, I'm taking the LSAT for the 2nd time this Saturday and was looking for some advice on keeping time. The first time around, I had a really hard time seeing the clock in the classroom and I was always 1-2 minutes off on when I thought the section would end on my watch - which is ultimately what ended up hurting my score, since I would be scrambling to finish a section that I thought I had more time for.

While studying for this one, I've been practicing resetting my analog watch to the top of the hour at the beginning of each section so it's easier to see when 35 minutes is up. It only takes about 3 seconds to reset and it's been a huge help for me to keep track of time. Have any of you had luck trying this approach? Will I get in trouble with the proctors if they see me adjusting my watch in between each section? Thanks in advance for any feedback!

Hey guys!

I'm just wondering if I may receive some advice. I've been feeling a little unmotivated to study lately.

This is due to a variety of reasons.

Being sick.

Anxiously waiting for an exam score.

Girl issues, staying single, and trying to move on. (Honestly this is my biggest issue about my life, and it's kinda sad because it doesn't seem like the biggest issue ever to most people, but I have a GPA boosting semester so it's easy to have time to think, and I placed it like this for my entire junior year to work on the LSAT, but lately this one person's been in my thoughts really often and I prefer to get it out of my mind because I'm trying to focus on LSAT and goto Law School.)

Anyone got advice to get more motivation?

Anyways, thanks y'all!!

Hi guys,

I have been studying for the LSAT for 2-3 months now on my own. I am doing well, but I really want to take it to the next level. I am taking the November LSAT in a few days and I know for sure that I would like to take it again in the future. However, 7sage will be my partner this time around. How much time should I plan to study? If I aim to take the test again in June 2019, is that an ideal test date if I start Ultimate Plus on December 1st?

Hi everyone!

I need help deciding on which two prep-tests I should take before the November exam! My last prep-test was #84 and it made me drop 7 points :( I've read that exam was difficult for a lot of people, so since my confidence has taken a hit, definitely not a preptest that is tooo hard, something of average diffculty. Don't want to lose all my confidence before the actual exam haha. I'm trying to pick between 78-82 so it's more recent. What do yall think? The last three I took were 83, 84, and 85.

Thanks for reading!

Sarah

Hi everyone, I hope you are all doing well :)

Burnout hit me pretty hard after the September test and I haven't studied more than 20 hours total in the last 2 months. I am scheduled for this weekend's administration but I don't feel strong. My PT average is one point above my target score but I haven't taken a PT under timed conditions since before the September test. My performance in September was -6 my PT average and I honestly felt better going into that administration that I do about this one.

My gut is telling me to give up on this cycle and prepare to retake in June but probability seems to favor taking in November since my PT average is above my goal score and taking now could theoretically push up my law school start date by an entire year. Obviously it's a gamble and unlikely that I hit my PT average on test day given the 2.5 month break from prep, but the upsides are pretty solid. That being said, I realize that life goes on and that I probably won't be any more or less happy taking a year off as I am a k-jd student and only 22 years old.

Try to put yourself in my position as I am still on the fence about taking the test this weekend and there is a lot of exterior pressure to start law school ASAP that I feel might be clouding my better judgement here.