Abit of background: i have a degree from a crappy online college (upside is a gtaduated with a cumulative GPA of 3.96)

I spent 3 years studying ancient text abroad.

My whole schooling would be considered rigorous by most standards (i.e. start at 7:45am - 8:45 pm sunday - thursday.) From 9th grade till now 4yrs out of highschool.

Unfortunately, due to getting my degree online, i dont have any really strong LORs, but they are solid.

I have done tons of charity work and the like.

Realistically, i am expecting a 169-172 on my december take.

I have started looking at different schools, and NYU, columbia are looking mighty fine.

Do you guys think these should be considered my 'reach" schools?

Proctors: Really kind, nice proctor. I had a horrible test day, and he was super kind to me at the break when I was crying like a freak.

Facilities: McKimmon Center (NC State's career conference center).

What kind of room: A medium sized conference room

How many in the room: There were probably 40ish?

Desks: We had very large desks that were spread out

Left-handed accommodation: Yes! I am a lefty and it was nice to not be hitting the wall throughout the test

Noise levels: Not bad at first, but there was some sort of conference going on, and a woman kept yelling "WAHOOOO" about every 20 minutes.

Parking: Provided and free

Time elapsed from arrival to test: about 30-45 min.

Irregularities or mishaps: Just the weird conference and the lady

Other comments: It is COLD as CRAPPPP Bring yo' mittens!

Would you take the test here again? Not sure...I took my first one at the Cary Elite Career Services place and it was wayyyyy better, but I feel like NC State is probably the next best thing

Date[s] of Exam[s]: September 16, 2017

Hello,

This will probably get buried before the next LSAT administration, but at my test, they did not allow any snacks with labels into the testing room. So, anything with a wrapper had to be left outside the testing room. I had not read or heard anything like this before, maybe I missed it somewhere, but just as a general warning to test takers in the future: think about removing snacks from their packaging.

As a result, I had to leave my snacks outside the testing room on a table in the hall, where a college student generously helped themselves to half of my snacks. Yum.

Had a bad test center experience this morning (the proctors kept going in and out of the room and slammed the door every few minutes, there were people outside yelling at one point, and in the last section the person next to me began humming (albeit quietly). I'm unable to take it in December (serious conflict with the date of the test). Is there any possible recourse LSAC could provide?

So to aid in test anxiety and stimulate real life test conditions I was thinking of forming a real life test taking group.

We meet at the library and take the lsat pts together, someone act as the proctor, keep us accountable for the timing etc

Thought this could be very helpful.

Any lsaaters from Columbus and neighborhood let me know !

Summary: The proctor claimed this was the first time they were using the venue, to account for some shennanigans. The venue was pretty with ample waiting area, spacious desks, but terrible lighting. After we all sat down, we had to wait while they took lamps out of rooms or storage, and even then it was dimly lit. I say shennanigans because I know the Fall LSAC Forum in NYC is scheduled at the same venue, in the same room, as this test. Maybe they knew beforehand, maybe they didn't. But LSAC, you really should send your event planners on site visits; it's standard industry practice. Convenient subway access.

Setting pros: Chill vibe. Chill proctors. Bar downstairs. Bars outside. All the amenities of a hotel.

Setting cons: It was DARK. Like, we could have used flashlights or screened a film dark. They did get a lot of lamps going, but lightning was highly variable across the room. A couple people asked to be moved to an area with more or less lighting and were accommodated by the proctors.

Proctors: It seemed like everyone was let in. I even stood up at the wrong time by accident, and while I did get an eyeroll, nothing came of it.

Facilities: Dark. Spacious. Romantic?

What kind of room: It's the Mercury Ballroom and Rotunda -- you can look at the Hilton's website and see a picture of the room in the 3D conference/event space digital tour. The LSAC ticket listed this room, so it was easy to see a picture of the space beforehand.

How many in the room: I was in the Mercury Rotunda with about 30 people because I was at the back of the line. The Ballroom had at least 100.

Desks: Long desks. Not a smooth finish, but I bubbled on top of the test booklet itself and was fine. Not seated every-other chair -- people were very close to each other.

Noise levels: Quiet.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: Reporting time was 8:30. I arrived at 8, and about half of the test takers were already there. We started Section 1 at 10:10.

Other comments: They had water outside for us, so I should have brought a plastic bottle of coffee instead of water! Alas.

Would you take the test here again? Yes. Though I'd want to sit in a brighter area, I think.

Date of Exam: Sept 2017

You know what's going to be special about the test tomorrow?

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A few years from now, it will just be another PT that no one thinks anything of. PT 82. It'll be a recent PT for a very short while, then it'll be a recent-ish one. Then it'll be one that people take to warm up to the recent ones. Eventually, people will dissect it for drills. There's nothing about it that will stand out to future generations of LSAT students. It'll be like PT 51 is to us now. People really freaked out about PT 51 back in the day. Seems kind of silly now doesn't it? I mean, it's PT 51, who cares, nothing special. There was probably a passage or a game that was kinda hard. Okay, so what? It was a particularly good test for some of us, a particularly bad one for others, and about average for most of us.

PT 82 will be similarly mundane. How can I make such a prediction? The truth is, they're all mundane. I've seen every last one of them, and not a single one was special. We know exactly what will be on PT 82, we know the difficulty will range from fairly easy to insanely difficult, and we know exactly how to handle all of it. So relax knowing that nothing is going to be on 82 that hasn't been on every test prior. Any differences will be entirely superficial.

Good luck everyone, and see y'all after!

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It's test day. I'm freaking out. I flew to another state for this exam and I'm petrified.

It's probably no big deal, but I realized after today's test that I had forgot to erase the little dashes I put beside 'questionable' questions on the Scantron sheet. I asked the proctor if that was okay and she just said that it probably was, but obviously didn't know. Is there any chance that this is going to cause me problems?

Hi all,

As I was about to hand in my score sheet today, I realized that I only bubbled in 25 questions for my last LR section (which had 26 questions). During that section, I skipped 14 and came back to it to fill it in, so I know that 1-14 are okay. I have no sense of where I made the mistake from 15-26. If it was just the last page (2 questions) or last 2 pages (5 questions), I would not cancel my score because I thought the rest of the test went well. I also have my heart set on applying this cycle.

I never make bubbling mistakes during PTs in part because I check that my bubbles line up with the questions. I simply can not remember, though, if I lined up any answer post-14 with the appropriate bubble.

I would appreciate any advice people may have. For instance, if I do poorly and take again in December, will schools consider an addendum that explains I made a bubbling error?

Thank you.

This was my first week with 7sage. I read that the BR score is used to indicate room for improvement whereas the timed score is used to indicate performance under time pressure. And a scary question popped into my head, is 163 my ceiling i.e. will I never break 170 or above? I know the question sounds stupid, but I am totally new to the 7sage and the LSAT in general and I just got worried. :( I plan on upgrading to the Ultmate+ course. I am only in third year and have lots of time to wait and prep.

What is Manhattan Prep talking about when they say "1. Don’t forget your PRINTED admission ticket and a PRINTED photo."

they say to bring a different photo printed, but no where on the ticket or on LSAC's site does it say to do this.. Someone on TLS brought this up and it's kind of confusing.

https://www.manhattanprep.com/lsat/blog/2017/08/24/9-things-need-know-day-of-the-lsat/

Besides first page of ticket, ID, pencils, sleeveless eraser, casio watch, snacks and water, are there anything else I would need to pack?

Hi guys! I was curious what everyone's plans regarding the September LSAT are. Personally, I will be taking it tomorrow.

By the grace of the LSAT gods I have every intention of killing it and never looking back. However, this will also be my first official take and given that the LSAT is the beast that it is-I am also open to the possibility of retaking in December. How does everyone else feel?

Best of luck to everyone tomorrow, cheers!

Anyone know if it's permitted to wear hats or other related headgear?

Hi All, Has anyone signed up for tomorrows test and Decembers? Just curious to know how many people schedule this way and what are your reasons?

Hi Rick,

Today maybe the last time I hear your voice in the 7Sage proctor app, so just want to say thank you for scare the shit out of me every time you say "there are 5 minutes remain."

Because of Rick, I don't think I will be scared by any proctor(s) tomorrow.

Thank you Rick!

So I'm reading the lsat test day sheet and from what I've read, it doesn't look like bringing in coffee in a paper cup is allowed? Is this true? Not that coffee specifically is dis-allowed but it looks like we can only have beverages in plastic containers....SO technically a Starbucks cup wouldn't be a permissible?

Hey everyone,

Whether you are going into September LSAT or have heard about how difficult the newer tests are I want to actually say please do not worry. I know I did for a while but I want to share my experience with you and I hope that dispels a lot of the fears for the upcoming tests.

Throughout my preparation for LSAT I know I kept worrying that I hadn't ventured into taking the newer tests and as test day kept approaching my fears would increase that maybe I was missing out on something that the newer tests wold test me on and I would therefore end up scoring lower. My tutor was firm in making sure that I use all my old prep materials first and I got into the score range that I wanted to be in before giving me any of the newest test.

A month ago, my tutor had me take a test without knowing what PT it came out of. It's essentially a blind test and I did not feel the difference. It turned out it was a higher 70 series test and I ended up scoring in the same range that I usually do. Since then I have done a blind test on lower 70's and higher 70 PT series and I always end up scoring in my score range. This is true despite some PT's having weird games and I actually did not do well on some of those weird games. Despite that, I still managed to score in my average range.

I agree that the newer tests are different from 1-40 PT series. I also see that we now have comparative passages in RC and weird games in LG. But comparing the logic and even the language from 50-70 series I didn't see a difference. At least the difference wasn't enough to take me out of my average score range.

I really hope this helps people who fear the newer tests. If the tests were significantly different or harder then when I did the higher 70 series without knowing what PT number it was I should have still scored lower. But that did not happen. Obviously what I did is not a robust study and it did not involve a lot of participants. But its enough for me to know to not worry and my hope is that it helps other people not worry that the test on this coming Saturday will be significantly harder than what we have faced.

True some RC's or LG's are tougher but the curve compensates for that. When you do start scoring in your range that you want, I would say you are ready to take the LSAT real time whether you have taken many 70 series or not. So please don't freak out about the series in your prep or as you go into the test if you have not done a lot of newer test. Just do what you have been doing to score high and you will do just fine.

Good luck :).

Maybe a few of us will be testing together.

Comment your testing location

I'll be at Ohio State University

Where can you buy the cambridge difficult passages?

I have my admissions ticket printed and ready to go for this Saturday, when I realized my photo does not completely fill the 2x2 box. There is a white bar next to the photo. The photo is clear and you can tell it is me - do you think I will be allowed in or are they going to give me a difficult time/turn me away?

Hi guys,

So, I'm over here frustrated trying to figure out what I'm doing wrong. I can't seem to get out of the mid 150's range -- and I have been here for quite some time. My BR has been going up (currently at 165). I drill often but I'm just not seeing results. I only see them when I BR.

I don't want to keep taking tests though I think I should because I am writing in December (and yes I know I should write only when I'm ready but I have made the decision to put this down after February -- been at it for too long).

I want to hit at least a 160 consistently before the December test but I just don't know what to do anymore. :(

Help!

Hi,

I'm scheduled to retake the LSAT on Saturday. I initially scored a 172 in February after 3 weeks of study interrupted by having my wisdom teeth yanked. Early in the summer I made the decision to retake and fool proofed the logic games(my weakest section) to the best of my ability. I was relatively happy with this decision and felt I had a good chance of squeezing a few more points out of the test until yesterday.

I woke up with a sore throat, spent the day sneezing and coughing, ran a mild fever, and vomitted during the night. I have previously largely found that practice testing in sub-optimal conditions tired, hungry, with distractions, on pain medication after my wisdom teeth were pulled has not significantly affected my results and I feel a little better this morning so my question is two fold.

First, should I take the test even if I am still sick the morning of?

Second, does anyone have any tips for managing a cold or the flu while taking the LSAT?

The ticket says "No later than 8:30am." Do people tend to arrive much earlier than then?