I've finished the CC and have taken a few exams averaging 155. I BR in the mid 160's. I'm stuck at a plateau. I need some guidance on some hardcore prep for scoring at least a 160 on the sept LSAT. Currently making flash cards to review some core concepts and starting to practice reading comp. (Yeah, haven't given it much attention).

Logic games: averaging -5 (simple mistakes that are currently being fixed)

Logical reasoning: averaging -8 currently hung up on flaw and parallel method of reasoning questions)

Reading comp: 90% of my problem is time. -3 on BR

QUESTIONS:

What are your post CC techniques or tips?

What's the best way to really break through a 155 plateau?

Best course of action to really destroy Reading comp?

Hi everyone!

So I'm new to 7Sage and the past two times that I've studied have been at Panera and Starbucks, but both times the videos have given me trouble and they don't play. The videos will play on my cell phone and I've never had problems when at home.. so I'm not sure if it's public wifi that keeps the videos from playing but I'm wondering if anyone else has had this problem or if anyone has advice for me?

Thank you!!

I'm in my fourth week of study for the lsat and my approach has been to go through as many tests I need to untimed until I'm consistently within the 175-180 range. I've heard that you shouldn't waste any tests by not adding time constraints but I have a really big pool of past exams to study from so it's not really an issue in my opinion, and I've started at the oldest (1993) tests I have access to and am working up until I feel comfortable enough to ramp up the pace. I'm guessing I'll be able to add time limits around the end of July as my scores have been slowly improving from the mid-to-high 160 range to around the mid 170s, but again this is untimed so I'm not sure if that's really any good. Does anybody else have experience with this approach and would you recommend it? For the now the plan is to study consistently and take the test in December, but part of me thinks I can be ready in time for the one in September.

What's the best advice you received when you got bummed out while studying? What gave you the motivation and confidence to continue pushing? Thanks!

So, any tips on what to do if you don't even understand the stimuli? Obviously, this will make it hard to answer the question.

LSAC just announced another digital LSAT field test.

Date : October 14, 2017

Application Period : July 17-August 25

Instead of the $100 Gift Card they gave last time, the reward this go around will be a refund check for the cost of a future test (limited between Dec 2017 and June 2019)

Here's to being hopeful they took my advice and scrapped their garbage highlighting system!

https://digitallsat.lsac.org

Hi Everyone.

Need suggestion. Im going to take dec Lsat and I have registred for the digital lsat test on October 14 2017 test which is for free and result will not be announce to Law school but details analysis and result for only test takers. Is it really wroth taking this test or im gonna waste time?

This has been asked before but for the sake of it I am asking it again. Is the statement "V happens if and only if Y happens" represented as Y(----)V (/V(----)/Y). Thank you for the clarification

So i have been at the LSAT for awhile now. I see the benefits of prephrasing im just really having a hard time employing it on a large part of the test.

Does anyone have any drills or methods they used to help them "work out" their prephrase muscles? Mindset?

Hey all!

So currently I've only been doing 4 sectioned PT's and I want to take the September LSAT so I'm wondering if I should be doing 5 sectioned PTs instead (maybe even with the writing sample)? Or if I should just continue doing 4 sectioned PT's or maybe just do a couple of 5 sectioned PTs?

Do you all typically do 4 or 5 sectioned PTs?

Thanks everyone, hope you're all well :)

Hi,

Does anyone know if a Chronograph watch is allowed on the test? They have analog automatic versions(aka nondigital). I am about to start practicing PTs and would like to know before I practice with it and acclimate. I have seen past discussions that it is up to the test proctor. So is there no way to know ahead of time if my particular test proctor will decide to let me use a legal item?

Thanks!

If I am getting many of the problem sets in the Starter Package package correct,will I get less correct on the harder problems? Basically, I am wondering whether I am only getting them correct because they are "easy" or because I actually understand the material and would get them right regardless of the level of difficulty. Obviously, one way to find out is when I take the PT's....

Hi guys! I didn't do as well as I wanted to on the June lsat. I am looking to increase about 6-8 points by September, but I am kinda of stumped how to do so. I worked with a private tutor for almost a year and I feel like I have learned kind of up to my capacity, and now I am just irritated and do not know how to study from here. Any advice?

Hello 7sage,

I am looking for a quiet location in NYC for a Preptest Exam this weekend, any suggestions?

Thank you.

After getting my June score back a 158 (3rd try) and once again getting way below my PT averages (162-164) has left me questioning what I should do. I know for sure that I am better than what I scored on the exam, as every single one of my PTs leading up to that exam was significantly better than what I got on the actual exam. All of them taken in test-like conditions under strict timing. After taking a couple weeks to decompress I have decided that I want to try for it again in September. But I am looking to change up how I study, and a lot people that I have talked to have told me to try 7sage, as I am not the typical case going into this, I was wondering what your guy's opinions were, how I should be studying, how much I should be studying, and if 7sage is the proper channel for me to use.

For reference my June test I scored in each section compared to my averages on my PTs

RC -9/ Average on my PTs was -5 to -7

LR -16 /Average was -10 to -12- LR was actually going quite well but the second section I got the final 7 questions in a row wrong which significantly brought down my average.

LG -4 /Average was -0 to -2

Hi all :)

In my timed PTs, I always tank the first LR section... a VERY poor performance. I think this can be attributed to my brain not being warmed up? As a solution, would it make sense to take a timed LR section prior to the PT?

If yes, a concern I have in implementing this into my routine is- test day. On test day, do I take a timed PT at home before driving to the test center? Do I do it in my car at the test center? Would taking it in my car freak me out too much right before the test? I do not want to finalize something into my routine and then derail it on test day, possibly negatively impacting my performance.

I could take a timed LR section maybe an hour before the PT and then maybe a LG or 2 right before?

Anyways, I would love to hear what you guys think. Thank you in advance! :)

Fellow 7sagers,

I'm in a bind and am in serious need of advice. So it's already been about 10 months since I first started studying for the LSAT, and the June 2017 test was my second attempt, after the first one which I ended up canceling (turns out I was way too underprepared to deal with the test day anxieties and pressures). By the week before the June test day, I had done almost all preptests from 1 to the most recent 80s, and was averaging in the 170s, with the highest score being 177. Of course, I took into consideration that some of these scores were inflated because they were retakes (with about 3 months break).

I felt quite confident leaving the test center in June, feeling that no particular question gave me a hard time and that test difficulty was not much different from that of the numerous PTs I took. Unfortunately, turns out that was false confidence, and I was quite devastated to receive my score of 166, a score that is far below my average PT score. I know that 166 is not the end of the world, but I'm just disappointed and frustrated because despite all the work I've put in, my real test day scores simply do not reflect what I can achieve.

Although I've heard that 3 attempts may not be received so well by top tier schools, nevertheless I've reached the conclusion that I should take it one last time, as I feel like giving up now would be a total waste of what I've invested so far. I have a GPA of 3.93 from University of Chicago, and was really hoping to boost my application with a strong LSAT score.

But the problem is, I simply don't know where and how to begin studying for a third retake. I've used up all the practice tests, gone over the 7sage curriculum multiple times, and am pretty confident (or thought I was) with the fundamentals of each section. From my previous PTs, I know that my RC is the weakest, but I don't know where I went wrong on test day because the tests taken in Asia are all undisclosed tests (am I correct?). I don't know if 7sage has done all it could possibly do for me and whether I should turn to other resources... I think test day pressures have a huge impact on my performance but I'm not sure how to remedy that, or if I will ever be able to.

That brings me to the issue of when I should take my final test, because I'm not sure if I'm currently worn out from long period of intensive studying, or whether I should be gritting my teeth and committing 2 more months to prepare for the September test. I know that September will put me at a better place to apply early for my top choices, but then again I'm thinking, what good would that do if my scores are subpar?

I'm just a bit lost as to how I should approach my third and final exam, all the while writing my personal statements, essays of all sorts. I'm sorry for this lengthy chunk of text but I would tremendously be grateful any kind of advice you guys have for me. I've been thinking about it on my own for a few weeks but am feeling nervous and hesitant about not knowing whats best for me.

thank you so much guys!

Hey! Can someone please help me out I'm not sure how to do BR for a full prep test. How do you go about doing BR for logic games for example. Thanks!

I had a general question I was hoping some people here might have some views or insights on.

I'm Canadian and have done a ton of research on different law schools. University of Toronto is our #1 law school here, and I'd be totally happy to get in (average LSAT is 167, which I think is totally doable for me based on my current prep tests and my soft credentials). Although we have some other great law schools here in Canada, I don't really have a desire to move anywhere else in Canada, and UofT is the best, so I'm aiming high.

My absolute dream school, though, is Yale. It's mostly because of my more academic bent and I love their small class sizes and 6:1 student teacher ratio. They also really support people to take non-traditional paths with their law degree and I also feel I'd meet some exceptional people. I also realize getting into Yale is a bit of a lottery, so I'm speaking in hypotheticals if I can score a 170 or higher I'll at least apply (I have a book published with New York University Press and a few other creds that I think might make me at least worth looking at if my LSAT is high enough).

I'm considered also applying to Harvard. I'll be honest that Harvard doesn't entice me as much as Yale. Harvard seems much more geared towards streaming people into corporate law (nothing wrong with that if that is what you want to do, but not sure if it is for me). That said, it is still a great school and brand obviously, but it seems to me that Yale has a much better repayment program that adjusts to whatever work you decide to do after...

Anyways, that all said, I guess my larger question is whether it is worth going to either Yale or Harvard if one got in as a Canadian. That is, do people think the cost is worth the trade off of the prestige? For Yale I feel it could be because the program feels so up my alley of interest and is really unique, but even then I wonder if the price tag is worth it. A law degree at UofToronto is $32,000 a year, compared to 60K at Yale or Harvard.

I imagine that a degree from Yale or Harvard would be pretty transferable back to Canada if I decide to return after my degree? But I don't really know. I don't really have a strong desire to stay in the U.S after I graduate.

I realize I'm jumping the gun a bit, but it would be useful to get some feedback on this because it will help determine how many schools I apply to (each application is a lot of work and I want to put my best into them).

Thanks!

My first semester Freshman year GPA was around a 2.4, but after that semester my GPA has been a 3.8 which still leaves me with just barely over a 3.5 going into my Senior year... (My LSAT score is 164). Will schools take into account that I had a first semester screw up and have been doing great besides that semester, or will they just focus on the low 3.5 GPA.

I've taken about 7 or so full PTs thus far, in addition to going through the CC (for the most part--I'm taking in September so I needed to get started on PTs) and using 2 other books. Until now, taking random PTs from the 30s, 50s, and 60s, I've averaged around 165-166. I took PT52 just now and got a 176

WTF

Is PT52 just crazy easy or is this a breakthrough?

This morning I took my first timed PT---not even a full one (so minus the fifth and the writing section), but during the last section I felt extremely and absolutely exhausted. Both the first and the last sections were LR, but I knew I was processing information at a lower speed and efficiency in that last section. It's pretty atypical for me to feel so burned out in just 2 hours' of concentration so I think it might just be the result of eating less than usual for breakfast. So I decided I'd wait to do BR after an afternoon workout.

But, here I am, almost 8 hours later, still not able to start BR---even just the thought of it makes me cringe.

What is a recommended time between BR after PT? Are there downsides to pushing it back a day? How do I get over my BR anxiety?

Thanks!!!!

In the military we used this saying all the time, "Complacency kills". I just learned today that this saying is just as apt to the LSAT as it was in the military.

Today I decided I needed a new approach to LR. -5/-7 per section was just killing my score. I went back to the CC and scrolled through each type of question and compared it to my analytics. One question type popped off the page to me. "Method of Reasoning - 30% accuracy." These questions seemed fairly straight forward to me when I did the CC and during practice I did not miss much. How was I missing this many during PT's?

After looking at the ones I got wrong I realized what I was doing. Somewhere during my training for the LSAT my mind merged Flaw questions and Method of Reasoning questions into each other. I would approach a Method of Reasoning question trying to identify the flaw. While this doesn't sound super harmful, it actually was. I would get down to two answer choices and not be able to tell exactly why one was the flaw. I would feel time slipping by, guess and move on.

That's ridiculous! This type of question should be fairly straight forward why was it causing me to trip up!

Complacency.

I just assumed I knew the question types from each other because I've been doing this for about a year. I didn't even bother checking to make sure I was attacking each type of question correctly. Because of this Method of Reasoning just vanished from my mindset.

That is an absolute killer on the LSAT.

I saw @"Cant Get Right" post a couple days ago about how little mistakes inevitably are indications of bigger ones. If you feel stuck on a section, go back and review the most basic foundations. Something as little as this can cost you points.

As for me ------ Lesson learned.

How should I best handle questions I didn't get to (due to running out of time) while inputting answers into 7sage analytics?

If I input correct answers, the system will treat these as me understanding them. If I input wrong answers, the system will treat these as not understanding them.

Thanks in advance for the answers!

When putting in your BR answers in the analytics, do you only put in the answers for the questions that you circled or do you also put in for the ones that you got wrong but thought you got right?

I re-do the questions that I thought I got right (but got wrong) and I end up getting them right. I am not sure whether that should be recorded in the BR analytics.

Anyone?