Hi!

So I've taken around 9 LSAT preptests so far and I've yet to get below a 170 (yay!). I understand this is a good problem to have, but my range of scores is really varied:

175 | 174 | 172 | 170 | 171 | 174 | 177 | 173 | 171

As you can see, my "slippage" rate seems pretty high, anywhere from -4 on a whole exam to -10. For any of you guys that managed to get consistently above 175, are there any special strategies that you employed to move from the the 170-174 to the 175-180?

My section score distribution usually looks something like:

RC: [0 to -3]

LR1: [0 to -3]

LR2: [0 to -3]

LG: 0

Any tips, tricks, advice, or motivation would be super helpful! Thanks in advance.

P.S. - I'm taking the exam in September

So I take the LSAT on September 16. I started studying in late December with a cold diagnostic preptest (1) of 162. Reading comprehension was my strongest subject, I missed no more than three for an entire set (4 passages/complete pt) for the first 6 months of studying. Since December I've studied the logic games bible, the logical reasoning bible, done quite a few drills of logic games and logical reasoning, completed the core curriculum, and taken a number of pts. I'm currently taking a PowerScore in person course and supplementing it with additional pts and drills (I'm struggling to complete all of the homework before each class period, so I may have to cut back on the additional studying). The instructor has told me in class that I'm analyzing myself away from the correct answer in some cases. And sometimes I've noticed that my science background leads me to too critically analyze a science question (for example, I crossed off an answer choice about the virulence of a disease because of an improper assumption that I made from real world application - I know, dumb. But one of my weaknesses is clearly separating every day knowledge from not.) My general trend has been an upward one, hovering around 165-166, then two weeks ago I made a 172 on pt36. It felt great! But must have been fake. Now I've gotten 162 on two preptests in a row and am finding myself increasingly frustrated. My reading comprehension is more around -4 and -6 per pt, and I had been doing great on logic games, rarely worse than -1/pt, then on the last preptest I missed 8 in lg! I feel like I'm trending in the wrong direction at the last second, and running out of time. Obviously I want to be above 172, and looking at t14 schools. I'm terrified I'm only going to hit 162 and wind up at Bart's School of Law because I can't pay for anything else. I'm panicking and I don't know what to do. I've invested the time and the money. I'm highly highly motivated and have genuinely hit the books. I've been humble, paying attention to my lowest sections. It's like the whole thing rotates. One minute I'll make perfect logic games but do poorly on reading comprehension, and then the next I won't miss a reading comprehension and I'll miss an entire lg section. When I started, I rarely missed a paradox question, now I'm missing them frequently. I feel like I'm on a merry-go-round, and I can't pin anything down. Advice anyone?? Am I just destined to be stuck where I am? Not smart enough to break the plateau and hit the next level? Retaking is not an option. I must apply this cycle. With 40 days and (12 hours left I'm seriously panicking. Anyone, please help?!

Hopefully by the time someone responds I'll have the snot and tears cleared from my face.(/p)

Hey Ya'll,

I've taken Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Today off from LSAT for one last refresher weekend before I go all out for Sept 16th. Just wondering what your game plan is for these last 5 weeks?

I plan on doing 2 five section PTs per week from now until test day. I'll be blind reviewing and targeting for the the in between days. I also plan on taking 2-4 days off Early September to do one last refresher before the test date. How does that sound? Last 4 scores have been 169, 169, 171, 169

Hey so I'm a little frustrated because I feel i'm missing out on some pretty basic questions because of the time pressure and then when i go back and review I figure out the right answer. My questions is how do you comprehend all this info and get to the right answer so fast. Is it basically practice makes perfect? Thanks!

Hello fellow 7Sagers,

I am currently in a dilemma of whether I should purchase the LSAT Trainer? I have bought the Powerscore LG Workbook and I have found it to be quite helpful in terms of working out logic games, however my real struggle comes with logical reasoning and reading comprehension. I have heard good things about it, I don't really want to waste more money on the book if it really won't help me.

I am not sure if the LSAT Trainer is more of a workbook or more of an all-inclusive book on mainly strategy. I am of course using the core curriculum, however I am still struggling with LR and RC.

Any suggestions are helpful at this point.

Thank you!

Hey everyone!

I'm looking for a study buddy and accountability partner for the LSAT living in the NY area.

I can meet weekly on Sundays in person and during the week via Skype or Google Hangout. I live in Nassau County, but I'd be comfortable traveling to Suffolk, Queens, Brooklyn, Manhattan, Statem Island, the Bronx or Westchester.

Anyone interested??? You can send me a PM.

In the 7Sage version of PT33 and in the Logic Games Bundle,

PT33.S4.Q14 (LG) says:

"most be true"

http://imgur.com/yPG9YaW

I paused for like three seconds figuring out what it means before realizing that this is a typo.

I think I found another one the other day, but I can't remember which PT it was from.

So please let me know if you find any typos so that @"7Sage Admin" can fix someday...

When scoring a test that has a question labelled as Item removed from scoring do we leave it empty when inputting our answers? Does the analytics tool account for this computing our score? Similarly, does anyone know what this means?

So if a LR section was originally out of 25 questions and there is an item removed, do we calculate this section based out of 24 question instead?

I have been approved to type the essay (without any extra time). Does anyone know how this will impact my testing experience? Will I be in a room alone? With others who have accommodations? Will I still get the experimental section?

Also, I know LSAC doesn't report to law schools whether or not one has accommodations. However, I think it will be pretty obvious that I do given that my essay will be typed. I know it shouldn't, but do you think this could influence the admissions committees' decisions in any way?

I have a hunch that the priority value, be it 0.6, 1.2, etc., is a numerical representation that reflects the expected number of problems of whatever type that you would miss on an upcoming exam. Is this correct?

So we've all been working hard to get to our desired LSAT score...Countless hours of learning new things only to make small improvements in hopes of getting into our desired school. At the end of the day, you own the LSAT, it does not own you. No matter your score, at the end of the day, this is a very small step within the bigger picture called life.

The LSAT does not determine your self worth. Whether you get a 180 or a 140, you're still on the right track. Pick yourself up and go into battle.

Hi- I'm curious how everyone organizes their LSAT material. Binder etc? I end up with papers everywhere. I have a stack of random passages that I did and corrected etc then some practice tests but I end up doing so many questions it's a challenge to keep everything organized.

https://www.amazon.com/10-Actual-Official-LSAT-PrepTests/dp/0998339784/ref=sr_1_39?ie=UTF8&qid=1502068608&sr=8-39&keywords=lsat

Hello everyone,

I feel as if I've hit a low point in my prep.

I am scheduled to review question types: MC, MSS, Causation-Phenomenon-Hypothesis, MBT and the 9 Valid Arg Forms, and Mastering the Memory Method for RC with Daniel' approach @danielznelson.

I started looking at LG to get a sense of the moving pieces on the board in sequencing, but I am getting a bit disenchanted that I can't upgrade to Ultimate+ so that I can have access to all the games in one place. It really sucks, actually, since I'm beginning to understand the strategies.

I think I fell to an all-time low on Saturday night when I realized that though I was able to finance a new car for work, and while I'm happy to have it, all I could think about was how it sucks that I still can't upgrade to Ultimate+ and what will the car loan mean for law school financial aid in 2018-2019?

I missed my Friday session because I was at the dealership, and today I'm out of it. Am I overthinking this ???

Okay so I bought The LSAT Trainer book and read just the RC section and did the practice drills. Well, I took my first full length timed RC section (PT 47) and scored absolutely horrible! missing 6/8 more than normal. Is PT 47 just unusually hard or did I screw up my RC strategies?

I have taken PT J07, 36,37,38,52,60. I have only enough time for 16 more tests. Which should I take before the September LSAT?

Hi everyone,

I hope everyone had a great weekend. I wanted to post to get some advice from all of you, especially those who have managed studying and working full-time at the same time.

To give a little background, I currently work at a job that I've been at for a little more than a year. Unfortunately, I work in consulting and my hours are not always necessarily the typical 9-5PM. There are times when I get out at 7-8. On really bad days, I get out even later (although this hasn't happened recently). At this time, I'm not sure quitting my job to study is an option because financially, that may not be feasible. I am planning on taking the September LSAT (my third try) and I'm feeling completely overwhelmed. I'm trying my best to maintain both studying and work, but it's hard to put full effort into either. I've been getting a lot of crap from my bosses about how I haven't been communicative enough or proactive enough. At the same time, my scores don't seem to be improving too much (in fact, they seem to be going down). I was scoring in the 170s before the June test, but now my scores are back down to the 167-169 range.. Ideally, I'd REALLY like to take the September test just because I'm planning on applying this year and because the LSAT has already taken up so much of my time.

For those who have gone through this before (and for anyone else who's been overwhelmed by this test), how do you handle this? Any advice on how I should approach this or anything from your own experiences you think would help?

Thanks all for reading this long message!!

Hey does anyone have any experience at this testing center? I can't find any reviews. Thanks in advance!

I currently work 9-5 on weekdays, in addition to a few hours on both Saturday and Sunday morning. My weekend work is pretty physically demanding, so I'm kind of tired after even though those shifts are quite short. This has been going on since the beginning of my LSAT prep in late May. I generally take practice tests around 7pm or later, or, on the weekends, after a tiring morning; I know this is far from ideal, as many recommend making Saturday morning your PT time.

Has anyone had a similar experience re: only taking PTs when already tired? I will have some actual time off in 2 weeks, so I'll be able to PT when I'm fresh in the morning at that point, but I'm curious as to whether it'd be unreasonable to expect a little improvement in my performance simply because of the increased energy. I realize this might very well be extremely wishful thinking, but I figured I'd ask.

I should note that I've gotten some great, and some really not great, scores on days that I'm exceptionally tired…maybe there really is no correlation?

Thanks in advance for any insights you might be able to share---so grateful for this community!

p.s. in case anyone suggests I PT before work, it's just not feasible. My commute isn't incredibly long but I don't sleep well at night--getting up at 5 to PT before my commute isn't worth it.

Hello everyone!

So I recently purchased the LG Powerscore Bible since I have not had much practice with logic games and I really needed some type of guidance to get me started. I finished the workbook within 3 days and I was just wondering if the LG Powerscore Bible covers everything well or if it just introduces us to the easier games?

I feel pretty good now that I have completed the workbook, however I don't want to get too excited especially if the questions and games in the book are some of the easier batch and don't cover everything that we might tackle on test day. Now that I have completed the workbook, I will be starting to do the LG games and follow the 7Sage method (ie. printing 10 games/BR method, although I think I am going to focus on this method since I save a lot of paper and I save a lot of time doing all the games.

https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/2737

I am writing the LSAT in September, or well at least that is what I hope for. If I feel I'm not ready by September, I will definitely take the December test since I do not want to rush myself.

Also, which games would you guys recommend if I am a bit on a time crunch? I work only once a week and don't have any other activities planned for the month so I aim to study 7-8 hours 6 days a week. I have just got down logic games. I will be now moving on to RC and LR in terms of learning strategy in the core curriculum (Yes, I'm weird.. I did all the logic game sections in the CC before going on to LR and RC since I took Kaplan previously).

Any advice would be great! Thank you!

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I am almost done learning LR as part of the CC. JY uses diagrams often, when explaining the answers. So far, I am doing really well without using any diagrams. Does this mean I am naturally good at LR,or do most people not use diagrams?

Hello! Any advice I can get would be greatly appreciated :)

I am going to be finishing my in-class Blueprint prep course in about a month that's for people taking the September LSAT. I recently decided however that I wont be doing the September exam anymore and will be taking a few more months to study for the December LSAT instead. The Blueprint class has been an extremely helpful beginning for me since it's put me in a structured schedule with fun lessons that are easy for me to understand. I went from143 to 152 in a month and I think I can probably make it to 160 by mid-September, but I'd like to get to over 170 by December.

My dilemma is I don't know what the best way to do that is. Do I renew my online blueprint account until December and just keep practicing those online practice questions on my own? I also considered doing another in class course of some kind just to keep me motivated in a schedule but those are so expensive and I feel like I wouldn't get that much benefit from it since I already do know the basics. I've also considered buying a 7Sage package but I have some concerns with that like unnecessarily confusing myself with the different strategies that 7Sage presents in comparison to Blueprint. I don't want to feel like I'm wasting time starting from scratch or that I have to unlearn the Blueprint strategies just so I can relearn from 7Sage or whatever other companies' strategies without confusion. I'm also not great at self-studying. I do have motivation and discipline to study a lot and work hard, but I usually need to be in some kind of structure like a class in order to do that to my greatest potential. This brought me to consider getting a tutor that I could see weekly and that could just customize helping me based on what level I'm already at and adding to strategies I'm already using. What do you all think would be the best option to get me to a minimum of 170 by December?

Also if you have tried a tutor before did it work for you? Any really good tutor recommendations? And if you have studied for the LSAT using two companies before, did you feel like it got confusing or that you had to start over?

Thanks for reading!! :)

Hey 7Sagers!

I saw a couple posts that were similar to this topic, but those threads were mainly very old or distinct in their question. As such, I wanted to pose a question that I'm sure many in the community are facing during PTs.

What are some of the potential causes that would result in varied PT scores?

I'm sure everyone is experiencing different results, but in my case, I'm talking about 8 PT scores that create two very distinct averages. For me, half my PTs suggest I'm currently performing at ~163 and the other half consistently have me at a ~157. To clarify, these scores were intermingled, meaning it's not a steady increase from 157 to a 163, but rather spikes and drops going between the two. Furthermore, I've thoroughly reviewed both the question types and sections for each test and there doesn't seem to be any consistency in the points I've missed.

But back to my larger question, if our studying methods haven't changed, what fundamental errors could cause those preparing for the LSAT to have an inconsistent score and how can we address these?

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