Hey guys,

I remember seeing someone say it isn't good to do PTs sequentially because when you get to the 70s, scores typically tend to drop significantly. I was thinking about doing 1 in the 60s, then 1 in the 70s, and then keep that same order throughout.

What do you guys think about this idea?

@david.busis If I am writing the same organization over and over again, do I keep writing out the full name or do I abbreviate after the first time. In this instance National Christian College Athletic Association could be shortened to NCCAA after the first appearance (it appears three times on my résumé). I thought you had something on this in the admissions starter but then I couldn't find it (which could mean I was mistaken or that I just missed the appropriate section the second time).

Hi guys, so I have decided to put off my LSAT date until next september so I can focus on my last semesters of school. However, I want to continue to do logic games so that I wont have to restart studying when I finish my degree (April). I have the cambridge packets and was wondering if it would be a good idea to spread them out between January - April. There are 152 games games which would mean that I do around 10 games a week. Would this be an efficient way to study? Maybe do 3 games, redo them the next day and repeat?

What are some ways you've used that were successful in increasing your LSAT score?

Hi,

Just wondering...

How many Games or PTs did you do to get -0~-2 range?

ow many times do you repeat doing the same games?

Thanks

Looking for some input. I have found that overwhelmingly the questions I mark for BR are questions that I am getting right while the questions I am missing are ones that I am not marking for BR. This seems to indicate to me that I am under confident on certain types of questions and over confident on others. Has anyone else experienced this and if so how did you work on getting your BR to better focus on your weaknesses? For example I marked 12 LR questions total for BR while taking PT 70 yesterday, of those 12 I only ended up getting 2 of them wrong during the test. I realize the benefit of using BR to reinforce concepts you know but are not confident on, but I would like it to also better reflect my weaknesses.

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Hi, I was wondering if I could get a little help with this topic. I registered late for the LSAT (because of the september LSAT results), and I'm going to be submitting my request for accommodations, specifically extra time, and a quiet room by tomorrow. I have a diagnosed learning disability.

But the thing is, I'm canadian, so we don't have standardized tests prior to post-secondary education. Furthermore, I didn't have accommodations during my undergrad because it's largely writing/essay based rather than test based.

I didn't write my last LSAT with accommodations because I wasn't aware that they granted them.

If anyone has taken the LSAT with accommodations, could you please shed some light on the issue? I already know that I have to fill in the 3 forms that LSAC provides. I'm also going to be providing a detailed psych evaluation (30+ pages describing my LD). What other documents should I include to strengthen my case?

Thank you so much

What are some examples of how you start to prepare to study for the LSAT? Do you go over a lot of questions with the hopes of eventually getting them right? Do you use some of the strategies that you were taught from LSAT review courses? I'm trying to get some direction on the best way to start? Any suggestions?

Hi all, not sure if it is appropriate to ask this here, but I thought I'd give it a shot.

While finishing up my December LSAT registration, my checkout cart showed the additional $90 late fee. It's October 23rd today and the LSAC website says that late registration is on Oct. 25th. Am I missing something? I sent a message to LSAC and I'm planning on calling tomorrow, but I was wondering if anyone had the same problem and if anyone had any suggestions.

After mulling over my September score a couple days now and trying to assess where I went wrong, I am wondering if I was too confident on gameday.

Before going into the test, I knew that I had some anxiety about performance. I tried to mitigate that by mentally preparing myself in advance, telling myself to find a balance between confidence and nervousness, and believing in my training. On gameday, I was calm and and after the test, I felt that I had done better than expected. I thought I would've scored above average.

However, my actual score does not reflect how I felt. In fact, I scored outside even my lowest expected score. It's hard to accept this score when I thought I did everything correctly, that I placed so much mental effort into focusing to do well. Now I'm thinking that I was too confident on gameday. This made me complacent, and this feeling led me to deviate from my normal test taking strategies.

For December, I have to find a better balance between confidence and being aware of complacency. Anyway, I'm wondering if anyone else experienced this, and how are you planning to overcome this aspect of the test?

Hello Good Afternoon Everyone,

I need extra help parsing grammar. Beside 7sage grammar material, or lsat question, what are some other helpful sources to practice parsing tough grammar, and identifying arguments structures?

First off, congratulations on your score for the September LSAT!

I have seen a lot of rejoice and I have seen a lot of heartbreak today. For those of you who scored at or above your desired score, the stress is over, you are going to law school! For those of you who scored below, take a deep breath and relax. Some of you may have been aiming for the 160's and ended up in the 150's but guess what? This isn't a death blow! There are PLENTY of schools that take students in the 155, 3.0 range and those are good schools! Remember, this isn't considered to be a very strong year for applications. Unless, you scored in the 140's, you will find a place somewhere. Also, do you know why the T14 is so romanticized? The perceived benefit mainly revolves around the alumni base these schools have but guess what? Every school has alumni that are well off. Learning to network is key and graduating in the t10 at a 2nd or 3rd tier school will attract some of the best firms around. Take your future into your own hands, you will be okay! Remember that there is more to life than this exam! Once again, congratulations to all!

Are there any downsides to scoring lower on your retake and then applying with those two scores? Do you need to write an addendum if it happens?

Also.. How do law schools look at multiple LSAT scores? There seem to be conflicting views online. Thank you in advance!

Does anyone have any comments about Blueprint RC, The LSAT Trainer or Fox Logical Reasoning books? How many books do we have to buy for prep to score high? There are a lot of LSAT books and study courses on the market. What is the best approach to prepare for this exam?

Hey folks,

We’ve had some nice intimate BR sessions during the daytime on Fridays, but it’s possible that people are missing the discussion posts. The brilliant @nessa.k13.0 reminded me that the also brilliant and newly-minted Sage @"Cant Get Right” used to tag all those interested in BR group every time he posted a forum discussion blast. So if you have any interest in the daytime group and would like to be tagged when I post a discussion, just go ahead and let me know in the comment section. That way, you won’t miss anything. Thanks and have a great weekend!

I took preptest 68 and scored very differently on the two LR sections. i am a bit perplexed by the discrepancy. How does one get 85% on one of the LR sections and then 56% on the second LR section? I did them timed during a full practice test and THEN redid both sections, timed as well, and got the same score on a different day. I redid them to make sure that the second sections failure wasn't an accident. The difficulty level of the second LR section is clearly much more difficult for me. I would say 85% on the first section is a great outcome but the second section killed my score overall. any tips or explanations for the difference in difficulty? Do i need to go back to fundamentals? do preptests usually have one section of the LR that is SIGNIFICANTLY more difficult in comparison to the other? thanks in advance!

Anyone going to the law school forum in Houston today? I'd love to meet some 7Sagers!

I got a 160 on the September LSAT. I was PTing at 160-163 range, so it’s about what I expected to get.

My one and only dream school is/was Univeristy of Washington, Seattle that has the median LSAT of 164. Benefits of attending UW are in-state tuition, familiarity with the environment (I went to undergraduate there), and the fact that it’s the most renowned law school in the Pacific NW.

I feel so out of shape due to the 3 week break and I feel like I do not have enough strength/motivation left of me to study further for the December retake and get that median 164.. I’m registered for it though…

Is it worth it to go to law school with a 160 LSAT score, presumably paying out-out-state tuition at a 40-50th law school? Should I go to 111th law school in my region with some scholarships? Can I even get a job securely with that option?

If it helps I have a decent GPA of 3.75 and I’m not a URM.

It’s just so damn stressful to even think about getting back to studying at this point..... I simply despise the LSAT right now.. But if you guys suggest that retaking is truly a more valuable option, I will probably try.. Only 40ish days left until the December test.. OMG…. HELP ME PLEASE..

Hi there! Long-time lurker finally posting on the forums for the first time. For what it's worth, I really enjoy the community and how helpful all of you seem to be! So, you're awesome and keep doing you!

I took the LSAT for the first time in September after using 7sage for about 6 months or so. I scored a 157 which is below my diagnostic significantly (168). Games really sunk my ship which didn't surprise me since, when I sat for the test, the games section seemed unusually difficult compared to what I was used to from this course. I'm sure if I prepared longer, I would've performed much better. This course really has been a godsend, though.

At any rate, my target schools are Georgia State, Alabama, University of Mississippi, (I'm from MS, am in college here, and have the connections that would make that a workable option) and UGA. I'm a senior studying Biochemistry and Molecular Biology and I have a 3.72 GPA with work experience in a legal setting as well as a few research laboratories (my field of interest is IP if that's worth anything). I have an enormous amount of faith in my résumé and my letters of recommendation which come from professors, bosses, and mixtures of the two. So, my question is, realistically, what are my chances at these aforementioned schools? I'm currently planning on prepping and sitting again in December, but if this is somehow (ugh) the zenith of my LSAT ability (for this cycle, which I'm adamant about) could I get in? Georgia State and Alabama would be my top 2, the others are all roughly equal in my eyes with a lean towards UofMS simply because of my network.

Thank you in advance for any help or guidance you may offer! I assure you I'm open to anything you have to say!

Hello everyone; I'm back!

Short version - I work full time, and then have other things in my life which can't be compromised or ignored. I spend about 10 hours a week on average studying for the LSAT. I should be going for at least 14, but finding that extra four hours is hard enough when the 10 hours is already a battle. At the latest, I'd like to take the December 2017 LSAT. The September LSAT is my goal, but I'll postpone if I still show reasonable improvements. My analytics show where I need to catch up to be up to par with the rest of 7Sage, and I agree that my analytics are accurate representations of my strengths and weaknesses at the moment. With my limited schedule, would it be better for me to stay on target with the Core and then do the PTs, or focus on the Analytics. There are disadvantages of both. Completing the entire core first may result in me wasting time on areas I'm already good with when I could have been taking more PTs and focusing on my weaker areas. The focus on Analytics results in burning through more tests for minor victories.

Also, I'd like to tell everyone that I'm back, and to thank you for talking me out of the June 2016 LSAT. I was going to start studying again, but then I got hit by a truck. I got out of physical therapy a month ago, and that's when I enrolled into 7Sage.

Hello Everyone! Before I start, I want to say sorry to all of you who have scored below your target. I have not taken my exam yet but I've read some posts of people scoring WAY BELOW their PTs and BRs scores. Like almost 10 points. It's very discouraging reading some posts about how hard people have worked, only to still fall short. What do you guys think?

I understand nerves and anxiety on test day can impact your score, but a 10 point impact? I know there's a 5 point range, and that's what you should expect. Can it also be that during certain months the tests are harder than others? Or maybe a new question that LSAC has tried? What are your thoughts?

Hey everyone!

So I'm contemplating on whether I should re-write the diagnostic test. I wrote one a couple of months back (July, I think). Scored a 153 (LG: 15/23, LR 1 and 2: 15/25, RC: 20/27) . However, I sort of lost track of time as I was taking the test -- I got really involved with the questions because I found them intriguing and just wanted to spend time trying to figure them out. I think I probably went 10 - 15 mins over on each section. Just an estimate though, not entirely sure.

I was contemplating on re-writing it before starting the CC. Should I? I honestly would prefer it if I wrote it after completing the CC (partly because I feel like it might be a bit demoralizing). I know people are divided on this so I'm not entirely sure if that's a good decision. Thoughts?

Sorry if it's too soon and you're still drinking heavily! I am really really confused about Section 1 Logical Reasoning Q21, the one about Alzheimers. Can anyone explain why it's E? I put D in both the actual LSAT and in my retaking and in my BR so I'm stumped.

Also, for Q10 on the passage of sunlight in Earth's atmosphere, I thought D would work since it blocks the possibility that there is an alternate heat source which would render ice and snow reflecting heat ineffective, thus stengthening the argument. But the answer is C, which I considered but eventually chose D. Any thoughts?

Date of exam: 9/24/16

Proctors:

I think I drew the short straw and had to sit in the front row where the proctors were pacing back and forth -- it was extremely distracting. I'm pretty certain that they were not pacing through the other rows behind me because there wasn't enough space between rows. There was also another proctor sitting on the Professors desk at the front swinging her legs, like she was really bored to be there, extremely annoying and distracting.

They did a good job keeping time. There was also a big clock in the room that you could go by.

Facilities:

Modern building downtown. You had to go up elevators to get to the classrooms. Toilets located just opposite the rooms.

What kind of room:

Large, tiered-row seating. Looked like it could seat about 50. Each row was divided into three sections, one larger middle section and two smaller wings. Seats were adjustable which was very helpful! Bright, well lit room.

How many in the room:

I think every person in Texas decided to take their lsat at A&M, there were three classes with about 30 people in each class, and there were 3 different classrooms. There was one space between you and the person next to you, I felt like it could've been a little more, but it was enough as to not be distracted.

Desks:

Tables were the long joined ones and you were seated with one space between you and the other test taker.

Left-handed accommodation:

Yes.

Noise levels:

Quiet. (Except for the person with the cold who wouldn't stop sniffling).

Parking:

Plenty. Right across from the school there were huge parking lots. And also available on the street.

Time elapsed from arrival to test:

Too long in my opinion. It was almost an hour from check in until we received instructions. Part of that would've been because there were so many people that they needed to process. I do think they still let people in after 8:30AM. We were left in the room with awkward silence waiting for what felt like an eternity for everyone to come in.

Irregularities or mishaps:

Felt as though they took way too long to get started on the exam. The proctors were very thorough with the check-in process, really looked through your ziplock bag and made sure there was nothing that shouldn't have been in there -- that may have added to the delay.

Would you take the test here again?

Not sure. I'm really tempted to try another test center, there is one in Arlington which is about 20 minutes away. However, I think their facilities are a little more outdated. The adjustable chairs are a big factor for me -- you didn't need to be too far hunched over if you're taller.

And I'm really banking on not being seated right at the front. That was extremely distracting for me with the proctors pacing and looking down at you constantly. And the other proctor sitting at the front swinging her legs like she was really bored to be there.