Hey guys,

When I took the LSAT December 2016 I thought it would be my only attempt. Although I did well, to get into the school of my dreams, I need to do better. Problem is I went all in last year and burned through a lot of valuable PTs

There are a lot of PTs I haven't hit (30-45) range, and some intermittent throughout the more recent ones. Any ideas on how I should go about PTing from now until my September test date? I know I can still squeeze juice out of the one's I did do, and I know I don't remember a lot from those same PTs. I am concerned however, that the PTs I do take again will not be truly indicative of my score, moreover, I'm not sure how to schedule what PTs (seen and unseen) to do when. Would I want to do the one

Help?

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Hi guys!

Hope everyone is enjoying their holiday weekend!

I'm in need of some advice....I'm starting the CC over again, this time in hopes of solidifying the basics before moving on. I've taken the last 2 weeks to go over just the beginning of the CC (MP/MC, strengthen, weaken, etc.). I'm doing problem sets and still getting some wrong which is disheartening to say the least. I'm scheduled for the December test and I planned to start PTing in September (about 2 tests a week). Should I just move on with the CC and hope that I'll get better with the stuff I'm weak on? Or spend about another weak drilling the weak stuff and THEN move on (this is only the LR stuff...I haven't started LG or RC)?

Thanks guys so much! I feel like I post so often in need of advice and you guys are always so kind to help me out. I truly appreciate all the help! Y'all are life savers!

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Hello again! First of all, I wanted to express my general appreciation for everyone in the 7Sage community! You guys are essentially total strangers, yet almost always go the extra mile to help and support each other. I'm very impressed, and I feel privileged to be among you.

As for my question, I wanted to inquire about how the LSAT treats independent events in relation to likelihood. The content that spiked my curiosity came from Mike Kim's LSAT trainer rather than an official LSAT passage, so if this issue is not relevant to the LSAT, I'd love to know that too. The trainer has an exercise where one has to use proper knowledge of LSAT meanings for "some" and "most" to determine whether or not a statement in valid.

One of these statements is that "Everyone who orders a sundae gets offered a free extra cherry, and most people say yes to the extra cherry. Some people who order the banana split get offered a free extra cherry, and less than half of these people say yes. Therefore, people who order a sundae are more likely to say yes to a free cherry than are people who order a banana split."

Using the LSAT definitions of the qualifier words, Sundae buyers have a 1.0 chance of being offered, and more than half of them say yes. Banana Split Buyers have a 0 to 1.0 chance of being offered, and fewer than half accept. The conclusion then maintains that /people/ who order a Sundae are more likely to say yes to a free cherry than their heathen Banana-Split ordering counterparts; the book later designates this as a valid statement.

This situation immediately reminded me of a common mistake people make in evaluating confidence intervals in statistics. A 95% confidence interval, for example, does not mean that any given member of a population has a 95% chance of meeting a certain criteria. Rather, they already have have either a 0% chance or a 100% chance of meeting that criteria; their status (or in this context, selection,) is fixed and independent of any outside conditions. There is no roll of the dice. The interval merely gives us insight into the qualities of the group as a whole. In a way, this principle is reminiscent of the piece = puzzle LR flaw.

In the cited problem, we have data regarding the proportions of entities who made a decision being equated with the likelihood of those rigid entities from making one decision or the other, which isn't true.

So what does this situation mean for the LSAT? My guess is that this kind of situation would never arise on an LSAT, but if it does, I hope to find out whether my aforementioned thought process is correct, (thus invalidating the ice cream statement,) or if the LSAT does indeed require us to treat a population proportion and the "decision likelihoods" of its individual members as congruent values.

Thanks!

Ok, so I was a July tester who knew going in that I wasn't ready. I have awful test anxiety so I decided to take the dive and do the test anyway to quench my nerves. Luckily it did and I registered for the September in good spirits. I've taken the last few weeks off waiting for the score, and now I'm trying to set up my new plan of attack. Any retaking advice? I didn't do sage before, and I'm interested in doing it this time around.

By the way, sorry if there is typos. I'm currently typing with one finger due to being a kitten bed!

Finishing the curriculum is an enormous accomplishment and you should be proud of yourself when you reach that milestone. But it can quickly start to feel a lot like this:

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The curriculum provides step by step instruction, not only on the foundational concepts that must be mastered to beat the LSAT, but also on knowing exactly what to be doing in order to progress through your studies. Now that you're done, you're going to have to determine that for yourself, and how well you do that is enormously consequential. It is different for everyone, so this will not be ABC instructions to what to do after the curriculum. Rather, I hope it can serve as a guide for identifying the most effective study strategies for yourself based on your individual level and performance.

So I'm done with the curriculum. Now what?

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I was wondering if I should take a practice test now before the completion of the 7sage to get a baseline. I have taken shorter versions and I know that according to them I will have a fairly decent score, but I haven't taken a full practice test. Is that what I should do, or should I instead focus on the cc, test, and use that as a baseline ?

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The very large array of skills and materials we need to master in order to succeed on the LSAT can make it difficult to know how to approach the task of studying for it. On any given day, where do we aim our efforts? This is an important question, and in my own studies, I frequently got it wrong. Overcoming this challenge was prerequisite to succeeding on this test for me, and I wasted a lot of time and effort learning it the hard way. I hope that by sharing my experience and my study methods with all of you, you can do it right from the beginning and save yourself a lot of hassle.

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So as I do every Saturday, I sat down and took a full (5 section) timed test. This test "felt" much different than normal for me though and my score by section confirmed it. It got me curious as to what is going on.

The test I took is PT 78....(Yes, yes it is recent sue me) and my sections did not line up how they normally do.

Recently my scores look like;

LG: -1 to -2

LR; -4 to -5 per section

RC; -6 to -9

with a score on the test of about a 167ish.

Today everything changed!

LG; -3

LR; -7 and -3

RC; -2

Of course my score was a 167 still, I just felt a dramatic shift in the way the test felt. LG have been something I always finish early. Today I felt pressed for time. LR still felt fairly typical but the first section seemed difficult. and RC always baffles me but today it was just so clear.

I understand the test is variable and that scores will change and sections will change. I also can not describe exactly what "felt" different because it is such a subjective term. What scares me is that this is a more recent test. (the reason I took it was to get an idea of where the more current test put me).

Another thing I noted is I almost always miss flaw questions. Today I missed none and instead missed a ton of RRE. I also noted that it felt like there were way more NA questions than normal.

Is this common to have a test that feels like such an out-liar to your norm?

I see these PTs discussed in old threads, but I can't locate them. Have they been removed? If anyone knows where they are, please share the knowledge!

Thanks ya'll

Does anyone know about private tutoring or recommend any private tutoring?? I am so anxious about my terrible score of pt. Depressed.

Hi Guys,

Currently I am looking for a good RC virtual tutor. I am located in Shanghai China.

Any recommendations? Is JY a choice available?

I am a bit confused as to when I should start using the question bank. I noticed that questions in the Bank are exactly derived from the PTs that are provided. I am wondering if I should use the questions from the question bank in conjunction to the lessons I learn or if I should wait to touch the QB until I start to write the PT which have the same questions?

So I'm going to UCHI this fall and I just had an interesting conversation with an old friend who is going to the University of Toledo Law and they were bragging about how they have average grades and have a job with Butzel Long. Obviously this is part of law but how big is this?

This is clearly not a technical problem -- I didn't know what category would be best :D

Very small and perhaps ridiculous suggestion: in my opinion, forums are way more easily navigated when the number of posts per page is limited. I feel like 10-15 posts per page makes it so much easier to find certain comments / scroll to read new ones. Am I crazy?? I might be crazy.

Also I'll add a technical problem -- is anyone else unable to attach polls? When I hit "Attach Poll" I get the edit screen but literally no option to put a poll anywhere.

Hi Team, I've been perusing the comments and discussions and when it comes to the core curriculum (CC), I realize the importance to ensure you learn it all and remember it all. I am studying for the LSAT full-time and I just started about a week ago. Please share your experience with the CC. What worked, what didn't work? Knowing then, what you know now, how would you approach it? What do recommend is a good way to do it? How fast or slow did you take? Did you make flashcards, did you write on your walls : ) Did you do the CC twice, was that helpful? Did you go through it one time, just to complete, then go back through it very precisely? Please share any habits, techniques, practices, timelines, schedules, etc. Did you create a notebook? What did you print off? Anything that you feel may be helpful. I'm also curious if the CC should be treated like a class, for example how it is said that for every hour in class, one should study three hours out of class? Thanks in advance for your comments.

What are the pros and cons of both? Which is the better choice as a career stepping stone? The reason I ask is because I'm trying to decide between two law schools and the only real difference between them is that one places considerably more graduates in judicial clerkships and less governmental positions than the other

I have a question about 7Sage Notification Preferences. As you can see below, I have checked all the boxes, but I never receive emails when people mention/reply to/private message me.

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that game is cake compared to games with the super random, sneaky rules (like the television program one with 0.5 slots and whole slots, and you had to make 5 slots not 6).

what games have you found very hard?????

I just took my third take yesterday and quite disappointed in my performance. I was pting within my goal of mid-160s. After my second take of 154, I decided to access my strengths and weaknesses and do drill sets accordingly. I fool proofed the LG Bundle, revisited the CC and drilled by question type with PTing and BRing once a week. However, I have this condition where my neck gets excessively tight and I just lose focus. I've had a spinal tap done and multiple ct scans but no diagnosis. This happens sporadically and unfortunately it happened Sunday morning and I just didn't want to take the test come Monday but I did anyways. I failed to pace myself, missed whole bunch of questions in LR, and missed a passage in the RC. LG was easy but I could have finished in half the time if my neck didn't tighten up. I even forgot to reset my watch on two sections. I don't think I'm eligible for accommodations nor do I even want them but would a fourth try be even worth the attached stigma.

I have a question about the requirements of extra time. I have bad ADD and in high school, I took each section of the ACT on separate days. If I have documentation that I received this accommodation on the ACT, will the LSAT definitely grant me time and a half or double time or is it still in question? Thanks

Hello everyone,

I am in the process of drilling 1-2 LR sections per day from PT's 1-35 and am having some issues. I seem to be going right around 20/25 on most sections and was wondering if anyone could recommend any improvements to my methodology.

What I usually do is take each section timed and then go back through and read the questions that I circled for BR over again and make any changes that I see fit after spending more time on each question. I then jot down some reasoning for the answer choices that I am struggling between before choosing one. After this I go back through and check my answers, reviewing further any of the ones that I got wrong. As of right now, I am only at PT 14 so I don't have any of the JY explanation videos to reference.

Also, it seems to me that through the 4 sections of LR that I've done so far (I only just started drilling LR this week), flaw questions seem to be killing me according to the spreadsheet that I'm keeping for drilling LR. I am currently working through the LSAT Trainer while fool proofing games so maybe this will help?

Any advice would be appreciated!

Hey everyone,

So I just spent the last hour or so psyching myself out. I feel like there is no chance of getting into one of the better law schools any more. The reason for this is quite simply, I sucked at college on my first attempt.

I went to college, dropped and failed classes and this absolutely destroyed my GPA.

I then joined the United States Marine Corps and took about a 4 year break from school (while acquiring a couple more F's because of deployment....damn.)

After the Marine Corps I went back to school and graduated with a B.A. my GPA after the Marine Corps was a 4.0.

The LSAC calculates my cumulative GPA as a 2.7 (shoot me) and my Degree GPA as a 4.0

Right now I'm PT'ing in the 165-169 range. So my LSAT score is at least helping me a bit.

Will law schools take all this into account? Will the see I am different now with the 4.0 I achieved and the highish LSAT score? Or will they just dismiss me as a failure? Am I doomed to bad schools? I dream of T-15 but this seems unrealistic.

Any advice?

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