7Sage has to be one of the most remarkable communities I have had the privilege to be a part. I was so stressed and burnt out last week that my hair was falling out and had to completely dis-engage from the LSAT. Just returning tonight, my heart is full and more tears are falling down my face for the love and appreciation for all of my friendships.

The inspiration that you have given me has solidified my decision to register for December knowing that you can achieve so much more when you have a community of support. I didn't change my gravatar from a "snail" to "scrappy doo" for nothing! If I have any hair left after Dec/Feb test dates, I will post a picture of myself:)

Here is what happened to me so wake up and learn from my mistakes!!!

The week prior to the test – I wrote down my guestimate of a realistic breakdown knowing that RC and hard NA/Weaken LR's were my Achilles heel.

LR -4, LR-4, RC -6/7, LG -0/1

Which would have placed me in the mid-160’s range and with a plan to work on the weaknesses for Dec.

I scored 160... Kicker is - I GOT the Virus Game correct but how do you recover from -11 on RC???

I have been breaking down the analytics of the test and here is what I have found so far…

My actual scores:

LR -7, RC -11, LR -6, Exp, LG -3

- One thing I know for sure is that my prep did not provide the stamina required for test day.

- LR1: I hit a rough patch starting at Q17 thru Q24 missing 6/8, lost focus and confidence

- RC: The Aileen Gray passage -3, but the kicker is time management, -6 of last 7 Q’s

- LR2: Missed 3/4 Q9-12 and then 3/4 Q19-22 Need to evaluate Q Types or figure out why the clusters of misses

- LG: Stupid mistake G2, missed 2 stupid G3 b/c I raced thru it to work on Virus Game with it having 6 Q’s & had miscue resetting watch so had no reference of time on the section for pacing

I smiled when I got my score because I actually took the LSAT and scored 80th percentile - however big huge crocodile tears were falling down my face out of sadness that I hadn’t gotten closer to the mid-160’s. I desperately needed a break after all the stress of the past few months compounded by a lot of personal stress with my family. But it is funny that my brain needs to be challenged and I have been playing around with LG games and my favorite LR question types from misc pages I had already printed. Yeah, I know, everyone says I “ain’t right” with how I choose to relax, heehee.

Last Wednesday, it felt like I had a bucket of ice water poured over my head and I just need to center myself. It has taken some time away to regroup and figure out if I can increase my score to the higher 160’s when I really need a low 170 to go to law school. With the help of this incredible community, I believe in ALL of us to try to achieve our highest abilities.

Thank you for your support to not give up and if I can provide any info on my personal experience, please let me know. One thing I promise, no matter what happens, I will learn to not get so over-stressed that it makes me remove myself from a community I care about and will be there for all of you as you continue your prep.

Love you all,

T

Do you think that I have a chance for either NYU or Columbia with a 170 and 3.9 GPA but no extracurriculars. I scored 6 points lower than my average LSAT practice tests on the September exam

Hi,

How to use the PT you have already done efficiently?

Even the last time you did it is a couple of month ago, if you did BR throughoutly,

you must remember some essense from it right?

How to use PT second time efficiently?

Or if you finish new PT, it is better to do older ones?(ones you have not seen yet)

Do you re-watch JY's explanation?

Thanks

I was able to speak with one of the test writers at a LSAC forum and wanted to share:

I asked this test writer if there was a reason why LSAC is throwing "odd ball" games at us more often. He informed me that LSAC is aware of the mechanical approach test prep companies teach their students and worry this is defeating the purpose of the section. He realizes that most students may wonder, "Why am I solving games with animals?? I want to be a lawyer!" The purpose of the LG section is to prepare us to read a set of facts and determine what must be true, what can be true, and what must be false. Much like how we'll read statutes such as the infamous U.S. Tax Code and have to determine what's required, what's allowed, and what's forbidden. If you keep this in mind, you'll never be caught off guard.

Hope this sheds some light!

@david.busis If I am writing the same organization over and over again, do I keep writing out the full name or do I abbreviate after the first time. In this instance National Christian College Athletic Association could be shortened to NCCAA after the first appearance (it appears three times on my résumé). I thought you had something on this in the admissions starter but then I couldn't find it (which could mean I was mistaken or that I just missed the appropriate section the second time).

Good morning my fellow 7sagers. Myself and several other Detroit area students have decided to form a study group that will meet on Tuesday and Thursday from 530p-:830p and Sunday 3:30-6:30. The location hasn't been decided as we are waiting to make it more convenient for all who wish to attend. If interested inbox me or drop a few lines below.

Proctors:

They have 3 proctors and they are very quiet throughout the whole process. They are not super familiar with the rules but you can tell that they have past experience as proctors for LSAT and are very very nice people.

Facilities:

Bathroom is very close to the classroom and is large enough to accommodate the test takers.

What kind of room:

Normal size classroom with AC on (Taiwan is still hot in September).

How many in the room:

They scheduled it 8*7, but about 30-40% of people didn't show up. So about 30 people in the room.

Desks:

Classroom-size desk and chair.

Left-handed accommodation:

Not sure.

Noise levels:

Quiet. At 9:30AM there were some noise because another test administered by ETC is happening downstairs. Didn't bother me that much.

Parking:

I walked to the test center, but, well, it's Taiwan. Why would you want to drive to the test center in Taiwan?

Time elapsed from arrival to test:

The test takers were split into two classrooms so the waiting time is not very long. I think we started before 9.

Irregularities or mishaps:

Didn't notice.

Other comments:

I like this test center a lot. Taipei in general is a relaxing place and the locals are super nice. There are also a lot of good food in this area, so I enjoyed staying there.

The classroom located in the International building, which is on the right side when you enter the main gate. You have to go all the way down the hall to the elevators. The location of the classrooms for LSAT won't be posted until the morning of the test, so don't worry.

And an very important notice: don't mistake National Taiwan University of Science and Technology from National Taipei University of Science and Technology. They are two different schools and located in different part of the city.

Would you take the test here again?

Yes, definitely. I also recommended this test center to my friends.

Date[s] of Exam[s]: September 25, 2016

After mulling over my September score a couple days now and trying to assess where I went wrong, I am wondering if I was too confident on gameday.

Before going into the test, I knew that I had some anxiety about performance. I tried to mitigate that by mentally preparing myself in advance, telling myself to find a balance between confidence and nervousness, and believing in my training. On gameday, I was calm and and after the test, I felt that I had done better than expected. I thought I would've scored above average.

However, my actual score does not reflect how I felt. In fact, I scored outside even my lowest expected score. It's hard to accept this score when I thought I did everything correctly, that I placed so much mental effort into focusing to do well. Now I'm thinking that I was too confident on gameday. This made me complacent, and this feeling led me to deviate from my normal test taking strategies.

For December, I have to find a better balance between confidence and being aware of complacency. Anyway, I'm wondering if anyone else experienced this, and how are you planning to overcome this aspect of the test?

What are some ways you've used that were successful in increasing your LSAT score?

December LSAT is around the corner, and it would be nice to hear some tips on controlling test day anxiety!

Thanks in advance. :)

Hi guys, so I have decided to put off my LSAT date until next september so I can focus on my last semesters of school. However, I want to continue to do logic games so that I wont have to restart studying when I finish my degree (April). I have the cambridge packets and was wondering if it would be a good idea to spread them out between January - April. There are 152 games games which would mean that I do around 10 games a week. Would this be an efficient way to study? Maybe do 3 games, redo them the next day and repeat?

Hello everyone; I'm back!

Short version - I work full time, and then have other things in my life which can't be compromised or ignored. I spend about 10 hours a week on average studying for the LSAT. I should be going for at least 14, but finding that extra four hours is hard enough when the 10 hours is already a battle. At the latest, I'd like to take the December 2017 LSAT. The September LSAT is my goal, but I'll postpone if I still show reasonable improvements. My analytics show where I need to catch up to be up to par with the rest of 7Sage, and I agree that my analytics are accurate representations of my strengths and weaknesses at the moment. With my limited schedule, would it be better for me to stay on target with the Core and then do the PTs, or focus on the Analytics. There are disadvantages of both. Completing the entire core first may result in me wasting time on areas I'm already good with when I could have been taking more PTs and focusing on my weaker areas. The focus on Analytics results in burning through more tests for minor victories.

Also, I'd like to tell everyone that I'm back, and to thank you for talking me out of the June 2016 LSAT. I was going to start studying again, but then I got hit by a truck. I got out of physical therapy a month ago, and that's when I enrolled into 7Sage.

Looking for some input. I have found that overwhelmingly the questions I mark for BR are questions that I am getting right while the questions I am missing are ones that I am not marking for BR. This seems to indicate to me that I am under confident on certain types of questions and over confident on others. Has anyone else experienced this and if so how did you work on getting your BR to better focus on your weaknesses? For example I marked 12 LR questions total for BR while taking PT 70 yesterday, of those 12 I only ended up getting 2 of them wrong during the test. I realize the benefit of using BR to reinforce concepts you know but are not confident on, but I would like it to also better reflect my weaknesses.

Hi guys,

So I am planning on creating a warm up routine for all my prep-tests in the run up to test day. Can you guys provide me with inputs regarding:

a) the time I should take for warm-up;

b) the number and type of questions I should do;

c) the sections I should do;

d) the type of questions or sections I should avoid.

Also given that on test day, the clerical procedure before the exam will take around hour, what step should I take to not 'cool down'? And how many hours before the test should I do the warm-up? Any other suggestions or considerations will also be appreciated. Thanks.

Just curious, I definitely want to take it as a PT before December

I couldn't find the answer to this in my searches but apologize if this is a repeat.

I am taking the Dec 2016 test and will apply with that score during this admissions cycle. If I do a Feb retake can I send that score in as an additional way to bolster my application? Or, do schools not accept additional information after their application deadlines are over?

Any insights would be much appreciated!

Hey guys,

I remember seeing someone say it isn't good to do PTs sequentially because when you get to the 70s, scores typically tend to drop significantly. I was thinking about doing 1 in the 60s, then 1 in the 70s, and then keep that same order throughout.

What do you guys think about this idea?

I'm ready to start Pacifico's lg strategy but I'm missing the excel sheet. Can anyone email it to me? Thank you!

For some reason the phone/they hung up, they said "hello? hello?" so sounding like there was some phone issue...

Should I call them back? They just opened my account so they know who called them.

But I think there are multiple representatives, so even though I call them I may not call the person I reached before.

I wonder whether they will put some mark on me...like rude student :(

Am I thinking too much? :(

Hi,

Just wondering...

How many Games or PTs did you do to get -0~-2 range?

ow many times do you repeat doing the same games?

Thanks

Hi all, not sure if it is appropriate to ask this here, but I thought I'd give it a shot.

While finishing up my December LSAT registration, my checkout cart showed the additional $90 late fee. It's October 23rd today and the LSAC website says that late registration is on Oct. 25th. Am I missing something? I sent a message to LSAC and I'm planning on calling tomorrow, but I was wondering if anyone had the same problem and if anyone had any suggestions.

Hello,

On average, when (March-May I guess?) do people receive replies from schools? If you apply early, do you get result early as well?

Thanks

Hi there! Long-time lurker finally posting on the forums for the first time. For what it's worth, I really enjoy the community and how helpful all of you seem to be! So, you're awesome and keep doing you!

I took the LSAT for the first time in September after using 7sage for about 6 months or so. I scored a 157 which is below my diagnostic significantly (168). Games really sunk my ship which didn't surprise me since, when I sat for the test, the games section seemed unusually difficult compared to what I was used to from this course. I'm sure if I prepared longer, I would've performed much better. This course really has been a godsend, though.

At any rate, my target schools are Georgia State, Alabama, University of Mississippi, (I'm from MS, am in college here, and have the connections that would make that a workable option) and UGA. I'm a senior studying Biochemistry and Molecular Biology and I have a 3.72 GPA with work experience in a legal setting as well as a few research laboratories (my field of interest is IP if that's worth anything). I have an enormous amount of faith in my résumé and my letters of recommendation which come from professors, bosses, and mixtures of the two. So, my question is, realistically, what are my chances at these aforementioned schools? I'm currently planning on prepping and sitting again in December, but if this is somehow (ugh) the zenith of my LSAT ability (for this cycle, which I'm adamant about) could I get in? Georgia State and Alabama would be my top 2, the others are all roughly equal in my eyes with a lean towards UofMS simply because of my network.

Thank you in advance for any help or guidance you may offer! I assure you I'm open to anything you have to say!

I took preptest 68 and scored very differently on the two LR sections. i am a bit perplexed by the discrepancy. How does one get 85% on one of the LR sections and then 56% on the second LR section? I did them timed during a full practice test and THEN redid both sections, timed as well, and got the same score on a different day. I redid them to make sure that the second sections failure wasn't an accident. The difficulty level of the second LR section is clearly much more difficult for me. I would say 85% on the first section is a great outcome but the second section killed my score overall. any tips or explanations for the difference in difficulty? Do i need to go back to fundamentals? do preptests usually have one section of the LR that is SIGNIFICANTLY more difficult in comparison to the other? thanks in advance!

Hello Good Afternoon Everyone,

I need extra help parsing grammar. Beside 7sage grammar material, or lsat question, what are some other helpful sources to practice parsing tough grammar, and identifying arguments structures?