Proctors: For the most part, the proctors seemed like they knew what was going on. I had no issues with them. They chatted before and during breaks, but were not distracting during the test. They walked around a little bit, but not irritatingly so. They were clearly students, but I'm not sure if law students or not.

Facilities: There were bathrooms just outside the lecture halls/test rooms. For the males, the bathrooms were busy on break, but I could get in and out pretty quick. Just outside the building there is a Starbucks that wasn't too busy and with a bathroom too.

What kind of room: It was what I've noticed to be the modern law school setup. It was a lecture hall with continuous desk/table layout divided into three sections. Perfect lighting, and even better, the desk space was amazing! You could have everything laid out with plenty of space. Each row was on its own level, and all levels were separated by one step.

How many in the room: About 60, with the room about 70% full. Was not cramped at all.

Desks: The desks were lecture hall styled continuous running desks. So everyone in the same row is pretty much on the same desk as it runs across the hall. The middle section had as many as 5 or 6, while the side sections had a max of 2.

Left-handed accommodation: With continuous desks, I don't see this as an issue.

Noise levels: Very low, I didn't even hear anyone else turn their text book pages. Seemed really odd to me how quiet it was.

Parking: I think there was free street parking by the school, but it was early and I didn't trust the street sign. I opted to park in the Seattle University visitor lot which costs $6.00 for 12 hours on the weekend. The visitor lot is just a 2 minute walk from the law school building.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: LSAC said check in by 8:30, but the proctors didn't start checking in people until 8:30. By the time they processed all the testers and sent them to their respective lecture halls to start the test, it was around 9:30.

Irregularities or mishaps: None.

Other comments: The proctors sat the testers front to back as they checked in. If you want to sit in front, get in line early. If you want to sit in back, get in the back part of the line.

Would you take the test here again? Yes, absolutely. It really was about perfect. If I were to change anything, I'd show up at 8:30. I showed up at 8:00 and had to wait until almost 9:00 just to get a seat.

Date[s] of Exam[s]: 06 FEB 2016

I put a call into the admission office of a top half T14 school that I am very interested in - just to ask them if they would have any issue with me being on their campus, visiting the library, etc. with all of the various chaos going on nowadays. I am a couple of years away at minimum from applying (which I explained on the phone) so I did not ask to formally meet with anyone senior. The person I talked to was very nice and asked that when I came onto campus to come over to the office because they wanted to meet me and have me talk with the director of the specific program I am interested in. Is it too early??

Proctors:

They were extremely friendly and really made the experience a little less stressful. I found the proctors from this center to be younger compare to ones from another site, thus they were more understanding and helpful. They did their job well without being mean or rude like the ones we usually encounter in test settings.

Facilities:

Northwestern University is has beautiful facilities, the campus is incredible and just very inspirational for a test day. The buildings are well conserved too, which is important for a test setting.

What kind of room:

The room was a typical university/college room. Very clear and bright, which for me really helps, since there is no distractions and it is easier to read in that kind of room.

How many in the room:

I believe there were about 40 people in the room.

Desks:

The desks were long once piece furniture with unmovable chairs right in front of it. The proctors made each student skip a chair to sit (so there was one chair occupied and the following not), which was perfect because I had enough space to be comfortable and place my test materials.

Left-handed accommodation:

The way the desk is set up it accommodates right and left-handed students in the same way.

Noise levels:

Very very quiet, the proctors made sure the environment was quiet and they reprehended lousy test takers (in a polite manner).

Parking:

They have a parking for visitors, it is very easy to find and in the middle of the campus. I didn't have a hard time with it at all.

Time elapsed from arrival to test:

The exam started around 9:00. So not too much waiting time!

Irregularities or mishaps:

None, I thought this place was perfect as a test center.

Other comments:

I been in other ones and this one was by far my best experience. Everything just helped me to take the test feeling relaxed, which is kind of rare, since I usually feel stressed even during the practices. It is definitely worth making a trip even if you liver farther away. The test center is such an important piece of the puzzle and it is better to be safe than sorry.

Would you take the test here again?

Definitely. I would recommend this test site to everyone thinking of taking the LSAT around this area.

Date[s] of Exam[s]:

February 06,2016

Hi folks,

I'm currently on the section of our syllabus that requires us to draw valid conclusions. I can't seem to figure out why/when to fail sufficient and necessary conditions.

(i.e.) Y-->G-->H-->B

/H

Can someone help explain?! Much appreciated!

Proctors: Older volunteers

Facilities: Tests are administered in classrooms at Suffolk Law. Bathrooms are accessible.

What kind of room: Classroom. No windows.

How many in the room: 25-35

Desks: We sat evenly spaced along long tables. It was a comfortable set up--room to spread

Left-handed accommodation: yes

Noise levels: Dead silent. The room had no windows so no ambient noise could seep in

Parking: Street parking and school lot

Time elapsed from arrival to test: No irregularities in time

Irregularities or mishaps: N/A

Other comments:

Would you take the test here again? yes

Date[s] of Exam[s]: 10/15

First, are we allowed to discuss which section was experimental on a nondisclosed test? And second, if so, anyone who took it want to help figure out which sections were experimental? I had two LG sections.

Took LSAT twice at the same location, so, if necessary, each time will be denoted (1) for the first time, or (2) for the second time

Proctors: (1) Proctor in my room was an older gentleman who was quite strict with the guidelines and the time limits. Although he made things clear this created a bit of a tense environment. (2) It was a younger gentleman who was instantly more casual and relaxed than the first proctor, but he still made the rules and time limits clear and enforced them well without causing as much stress the first time around.

Facilities: The building has multiple floors with the bathrooms on each floor, so there are options to those who may need to use the restroom. There were also a few vending machines located on the main level so a drink or a snack could be purchased before the test, or during the break. There are multiple theatres in the building that are used for the LSAT test.

What kind of room: A lecture theatre with bright fluorescent lights that is also equipped with an over head projector and microphone.

How many in the room: About 60 - 80 in the one room. Probably double that for amount of test takers at this overall location

Desks: Multiple rows of fixtured in tables (thus the tables were not unsteady or wobbly) with two sets of stairs creating a large middle section and smaller left and right sections. There was ample space for your writing and test materials.

Left-handed accommodation: Since the desks were long tables and you were not forced to write on one side over the other, there should be little no problem for left-handed individuals.

Noise levels: Both times there was no noise in the room and to my recollection no noise issues coming from outside the room either.

Parking: On UBC campus there are multiple parkades around and one parkade near the building you take the test in. But you will have to pay for parking anywhere you go on UBC campus. There are also several transit routes that can take you to UBC so the location is quite accessible from almost anywhere in Vancouver.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: (1) 45 minutes (2) 15-20 minutes

Irregularities or mishaps: (1) Proctor used a time that was shown on the overhead projector. (2) A timer was not shown on the overhead projector because in a time before the proctor got into trouble for using it

Other comments: This location was fairly good overall to take the test. The only thing that made a difference for me was the proctor. The proctor during my first test was more strict and created a tense atmosphere, which stressed me out a bit, but the second time around the proctor was more relaxed, which put me at ease more so than the previous one.

Would you take the test here again? Yes

Date[s] of Exam[s]: June 8, 2015; December 5, 2015

Did anyone notice a Sept 2016 date on the lsac website. I was just looking at registering and saw that the date after June was Sept 2016 not Oct .. wonder if it just a typo.

Proctors: The proctors were faculty and students at UDC law school and were relatively no-nonsense and once in the rooms, accommodated the best they could.

Facilities: lines for the bathroom were long, and there wasn't a lot of waiting room in the hallways

What kind of room: Lecture room, with the kind of long desks that wrap around the center of the room.

How many in the room: About 75

Desks: Long desks in rows

Left-handed accommodation: because of the long rows, no worries on being left-handed

Noise levels: Not bad once you were in the building.

Parking: Really easy, there was plenty of parking in the neighborhood right next to the building. A lot of people also metro-ed which is also easy as there's a metro station right across the street.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: A long time. We were told to arrive at least 45 minutes before the exam but it was at least an hour and a half until we actually started. The check in line to get into the rooms were really slow.

Irregularities or mishaps: During break, they had to take us down to the next floor (with supervision) because the lines for the bathroom were so long. Also, kids would leave to go to the bathroom right before a section/before the exam began. Not the proctors fault necessarily but it made the exam take that much longer which was really frustrating.

Other comments: Nothing, really. Not a bad place to take the exam, and much better than other places in the area from what I could tell from friends.

Would you take the test here again? Sure. As much as it was not a pleasant experience, that was much more about the actual exam than about the test center. The long desks were great--plenty of room to spread out!

Date[s] of Exam[s]: Oct 2015

Proctors: My particular proctor was really anal about following the instructions exactly, and even threatened to kick someone out. The others were normal, no problems.

Facilities: Nice. It's on the St. Paul campus of the University which has mostly the graduate schools, so it's much quieter than the main campus. There were 3 or so different classrooms that people took the test in so it wasn't too crowded. Nice waiting area for the break.

What kind of room: Small classroom, good lighting

How many in the room: 40ish

Desks: Fold out table, 2 to a table. A tad small, but it still was more than enough space.

Left-handed accommodation: N/A

Noise levels: Very quiet

Parking: There was a big lot behind the building, as well as a big parking ramp. It might be worth scouting out the location before test day just so you know where you're going.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: I don't recall exactly, but I remember being surprised at how quick it got started. Probably about 30 minutes.

Irregularities or mishaps:

Other comments: All in all I was pleasantly surprised. I'd definitely recommend this test center.

Would you take the test here again? Absolutely

Date[s] of Exam[s]: December, 2015

Proctors: Very kind and sweet

What kind of room: Classroom

How many in the room: 50-55?

Desks: Awful! These are the desk that you once used when you were 4. All you need to know to understand this frustration is that the table connects to the seat!!

Left-handed accommodation: Not that I saw

Noise levels: Extremely low

Parking: Phenomenal- a parking garage is literally across the street from the building.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: About 30 minutes

Irregularities or mishaps: The proctor kept pacing in between seat rows... This was horrifying. She must have knocked my elbows twice! The room was packed with desks and there was not much space I tried my best not to let it bug me, but it was impossible.

Would you take the test here again? Absolutely, not.

Date[s] of Exam[s]: Feb. 06, 2016

Proctors: Efficient, but lax about the rules including bags and items. Did not check materials brought into the room with too much scrutiny.

Facilities: Excellent, renovated building with cafe, bathrooms, and seating area

What kind of room: Lecture hall style classroom

How many in the room: ~50

Desks: connected arc of table space, plenty of room

Left-handed accommodation: no idea

Noise levels: quiet

Parking: Took public transit

Time elapsed from arrival to test: 45 minutes

Irregularities or mishaps: someone brought a shopping bag and they let them leave it up front, they also let someone leave early to catch a flight

Other comments:

Would you take the test here again? Yes

Date[s] of Exam[s]: June 2015

Proctors: Three each time. In December, they were a bit too chatty for my liking; tried a bit too hard to be funny. In February, the proctors were brief, concise, quiet, and even used their own electronic stopwatches to get the time accurate to the second.

Facilities: Includes cloak room and very nice bathrooms. Nice heaters. Large desks and comfortable chairs. No vending machines. Not sure if they have water fountains either. Two clocks in the room but would still recommend a wrist watch as you may be too far from the clock. In December I got to choose my seat; in February, seats were assigned by the proctor.

What kind of room: Classroom-esque

How many in the room: I think it was 5 X 5

Desks: Nice, spacey, and comfortable

Left-handed accommodation: No need. Desks are spacey.

Noise levels: Not loud.

Parking: Not sure. Well connected to public transportation though.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: In the December test, it took 30 minutes for everyone to get registered, and then 30 minutes for instruction. In February, only 15 minutes or so for registration. Same for instruction.

Irregularities or mishaps: None.

Other comments: There was one little mouse going in and out of a corner during the February test, but I think I was the only one who saw it. The building itself is fairly new though.

Would you take the test here again? For sure.

Date[s] of Exam[s]: December 2015, February 2016

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-59-section-2-question-21

Struggling so hard with why C is right and E is wrong. I didn't like either answer choice but under time pressure, chose E because thought C was challenging the premise. I've watched JY's vid and read the available forum posts. I get that "implausible" leaves room for the premise to be bent. But all this is just muddled in my brain now.

I'd really appreciate it if someone could explain this in a different way so I can find a way for this to stick in my head and figure out how to attack similar questions in the future and where I went wrong!

For Flawed Method of Reasoning section, Manhattan LR only talks about "mismatch between premises and conclusion" and "causation" whereas 7sage and Powerscore talk about many different types of recurring flaws.

I was just wandering why Manhattan chose to do so. Anybody has an idea?

Thanks!

Just some Confusion on statement with both "and" and "or" in the stimulus. For example how would I draw a conditional statement with a stimulus like "If A or B than C and D" and ho would you negate this statement as well. may be a dumb question but having trouble drawing it out, especially while splitting the 'or" in the Sufficient and the "and" in the necessary

I got a question regarding my LSAT score improvement potential and would be grateful if you guys could tell me your opinion.

My current score is 150 and I am aiming for 158-160 considering my situation (explained below) do you think, it is a realistic goal which could be achieved by June or September?

- My baseline was 148 (I gave myself one hour per section ((I know it was bad mistake)) but I took other PTs including PT 70 under time using 7sage App two months ago and got a miserable 150 which forced me to withdraw from December LSAT

- I read Power score bibles plus Kplen LSAT Prep book and two months ago I got the Ultimate+ pack (halfway through the syllabus)

- Normally I put in 9-10 hours a day 7 days a week.s

- I am a ELS student and almost always I only finish 3 RC passages, 17-19 LR question and 3 LG games .

- I read very slowly (170 wpm)

- BR scores includes those questions that I could not finish under timed condition.

I have added my 7Sage analytic below, I would be grateful if you could give me any advice.

Happy Saturday everyone,

I'm finishing up my last semester of undergrad while prepping for the June LSAT. I'm pretty deep into the PT phase, so my typical schedule is a rotation of 1. PT, 2. deep BR, 3. work on whatever I want to drill, 4. day off. *Rinse and repeat*

I've been seeing great improvement with this strategy and planned to keep this schedule until I finish finals in late April. Then I was going to turn on the gas hardcore until end of May, and pull off as June begins and we get closer to the 6th. I really want to avoid burn out (huge weakness for me prepping last October) and still kill it in my classes. With this schedule, I feel ready to attack PTs, which was not how I felt last fall.

Anyway, I had a really busy week with midterms, paper, etc, and was forced to take 3 days off and not BR my most recent PT. I always PT on Saturdays though so I'm at a crossroads..do I BR my most recent test and forget about today's PT? Or do I chalk last week up as a loss, PT today, and just move forward as normal?

What do you guys do when real life forces you to take unplanned days off?

Thanks!

Hello 7sages,

At last 5 minutes, I tend to be nervous and thus become quite inefficient at the last five minutes for each section, especially for RC section

For LG, I might solve the 4th game or at least the first questions of the 4th game

For LR, I might finish in time, but no time to check those questions circled; if I can't finish this section, I will choose shorter one (but sometimes it's harder one).

For RC, when there's 5 minutes left, I still have a whole passage, and I become too nervous to read and can't remember anything.it turns out I will miss the whole passage. I used to use last five minutes to check the previous passages and give up the 4th one, but I'd like to finish all four passages, so I can increase my RC score.

I've practiced 10 PTs, I think what I need to do to improve my score is:

1. Stay calm at last 5 minutes (first five minutes are much more productive): I do meditation from time to time, and it does relieve my anxiety overall, but not really work for this situation.

2. Read faster without sacrificing understanding :I finished Cambridge LSAT Difficult passages recently, but still hardly finish reading new passages in 3.5 minutes (or including questions within 8.5 minutes).

3. Make a good guess: I have no idea how to do it; sometimes read too fast and eliminate the correct answer.

Do you have any suggestion for me?

Thanks for all your help!

After listening to the skipping webinar, I have started to implement skipping when I PT mostly in the LR sections. Now that I have started skipping, I am averaging about 5-7 minutes left over at the end of an LR section, so I go back and do the questions that I skipped. Right now I am able to select an answer choice for every question that I skipped by the time the 35 minutes is up. Is that the proper way to skip? Should I aim to have an answer for every question that I skip or should it be that there are two or three questions blank with no answer selected at the of end of an LR section?

Hey guys, I have found motivating myself to study for the lsat to be very hard. I'm just wondering if I should be taking this as a sign that I should not go to law school since I seem to be overwhelmed with the amount of studying for this one test. Any advice?

Hi all,

I'm desperate for frank advice from someone who knows this test and has been through the grind.

I've been studying full-time for the LSAT for roughly 8 months. I started at a 140 diagnostic.

In September 2015 (after 3 months of studying), I scored a 159 and figured if I could just keep doing practice tests and BRing, I would bump up my score by at least 2 points within a few months so I could take the test in December 2015.

I kept taking tests and kept reviewing (completing 10 full-length tests) until November when I realized I still wasn't breaking past a 159 (my last 3 PTS at the time were a 158,155, and 158).

I figured I needed to take a different approach and perhaps re-visit the fundamentals, so I enrolled in the 7sage Ultimate+ curriculum hoping I could bump up my score by just 2-3 points (I only need a 160 and/or above to be competitive for my target lawschools).

I started the curriculum mid December 2015 and finished it this week.

A couple of days ago, I took my first PT and scored a 159 (2 raw points short of a 160). I was disappointed to say the least, but I thought maybe I scored a little less because of anxiety, having not taken a PT for 2 months.

I thoroughly BRd the test, my BR score was a 178.

I took another test today, but unfortunately I scored even lower, a 157.

I'm at the point where I feel feel like I may be cursed. I've been in the same score range for what feels like eternity (6 months full-time feels like forever. I usually spend 8+ hours a day, everyday studying).

My average scores are -7/-8 on each LR section, -8 on LG, and -8 on RC which can sometimes go lower :(

I can continue to drill PTs but I don't know how effective that will be, considering that I've been doing the same thing for at least 4 months previously.

Any advice on what I should do? I'm slowly going crazy.

Thank you in advance!

7Sage, you rock! I couldn't have made it into my dream school without you. Keep up all the amazing work you're doing here.

I'am depressed and anxious... Does anybody know anyone who was accepted to T-14 as an older (again, 53+ years old) applicant? If one had all the right numbers (LSAT and GPA at or above 50% of those accepted), do you think age would preclude them from being accepted? Does anyone know?!!