How did you go about adding the LSAT Trainer along side 7sage in your prep? I've heard it's a great resource, but I'm not sure how to use the two simultaneously while studying.

Hi again,

This question has probably already been asked but, what books do you guys recommend for people preparing for law school and why? Thanks a bunch! :)

Hey guys! A 7Sager had a question I thought you could help out with. Here it is:

I’ve been studying with your 7sage ultimate+ package for about 3 months, and I took this February test after finishing almost all your core lessons and about 7 timed PTs. I knew I wasn’t ready and I only got a 157. So I’m gonna take another test this June.

I was wondering if you can give me some advice on how to study for the coming three months.

My main problems were RC and LG.

1. Since English is not my mother tongue, I can only manage to finish 3 passages in the 35mins RC section, and the correction rate was horrible.

2. I can’t finish all 4 games within 35mins most of the time. (But I was less worried about LG than RC, because I feel I can get faster by keep practicing the ’10-clean-copies’ method you suggested.)

I feel like I can’t deal with these two problems by simply keeping doing timed PTs set by set for the next three months, because it seems I’ll just keep not being able to finish them again and again from the experience of those 7 complete PTs I did do (I just wasn’t getting any better!).

So would you please give me some advice on how should I train myself to get a 170+ for the next 3 months (especially for these two main problems I pointed out)?

Thanks a lot for your help!

I am taking my diagnostic test tonight and I am suspecting it will be a little rough, as I have not taken a test like this in a decade. I am considered nontraditional as I graduated undergrad 10 years ago... and my understanding is that LSAT is weighed even heavier for non traditional students. Has anyone else heard this? Also any advise on studying as a nontraditional student? I have a full time job and I am finding that in the evenings it is really hard to study for long periods of time because I am just drained. Any tips? I am pretty much at stage one and I am prepared to dedicate 1-2 hours a day during the week and a little more on the weekend, but any tips would be great.

So I am probably going to buy one of the courses this weekend, I am planning on sitting for the Sept LSAT that being said I am not sure which to buy, I can't spend a lot right now but I love the way the courses are taught in the free class. So my question is... if I spend the $349 can I upgrade to the $549 later... or is that just the extension? I like the idea of the questions with video explanations. Thx!

Hi guys,

I was wondering how your PT schedules are like for the final week before the June exam. Specifically are you guys going to take an exam on June 4th? June 5th? Some have recommended taking an exam almost everyday in the last week leading up to the exam to be dialed in. While a past tutor of mine, who wrote a 180, said he personally took three or 4 days off before his test date and recommended that I do the same.

Hi guys,

I've decided that I'm going to enroll in the Strater 7sage pack (please no comments about upgrading unless of course you're willing to pay for me :P) but since I have decided on taking the December 2016 LSAT, I am wondering what you guys think about WHEN is a good time for me to enroll here? I took a gap year after graduating from undergrad and do not have a job currently. In fact, I said I would go easy on doing other things until this LSAT is done with. This won't be my first time taking the LSAT.

Since I am only allotted 3 months with 7sage, when do you guys think I should dedicate those 3 months? Now? later? Thanks in advance :)

I just wanted to warn/remind everyone to be on top of checking your email from the LSAC. In the past 24 hours, I received two separate emails reassigning both my test center AND my test date for the June exam.

There are lots of specific, time-sensitive instructions that you must follow in order to be able to take the test on test date.

Also, anyone who has tested with accommodations, or anyone who just knows the answer to this question in general: if I'm taking my test several days after people on June 6, should I expect that I'll be taking a different version of the test? How does that work?

Looking for a LSAT tutor?

As you know, we have a number of folks in our community who are active LSAT tutors. All of them tutor virtually and several of them tutor in person as well. These are folks we know who we believe to be excellent tutors. While they don't work for 7sage, they're active members of our community and we want to identify them for you.

We wanted to introduce you to Allison Gill Sanford in particular. @allison.gill.sanford is located in Seattle, WA and does both in-person and online tutoring. Having gotten to know Allison over the past few months, I can speak specifically to her affability and commitment to hers students' improvement. Allison scored a 173 and specializes in LR and RC.

If you'd like to get a taste of what it might be like to work with Allison, be sure to attend her webinar on Tuesday 2/23 . She offers free consults and has a limited number of subsidized hours available through 7sage for those for whom cost is a concern.

PM @allison.gill.sanford if you'd like to inquire about rates and/or to set up a free 30 minute consult!

Does anyone ever feel like focusing too much on techniques actually backfires? It's like when in my voice lessons my teacher repeatedly scolds me for thinking too much about techniques and therefore not actually singing. I bet it's similar with sports, as in most of the time you just got to hit the damn ball, instead of lowering your right wrist to the side of your hip, moving your right ankle in front of your left, and with the support of your glutes... you get the idea.

I am recently getting the sense that when you have prepared for the test for a long while, you just gotta let go with the techniques. You turn to them when you encounter some troubles, but most of the time all the prep you've done has enabled you to read and think pretty effectively. And when you try to technique your way through the tests, it's actually not as efficient.

But of course maybe it's just me. After all I overuse techniques in a hell lot other places besides LSAT.

I am taking the June 2016 test and do not feel ready. Does it look bad to take it twice or should I postpone the test until September?

Hi everyone,

In the process of trying to create a summary of invalid vs. valid argument forms, I stumbled across a form that I noticed hadn't been identified as valid or invalid in the curriculum.

A ---> B

B --m-> C

---

A --s-> C

List method:

ABC

ABC

ABC

AB

AB

I know that if I were to conclude that A -m-> C it would be considered invalid (this is invalid argument form 4). I tried using the list method to check whether the "some" conclusion could be drawn and it seems valid but I'm starting to doubt I did it correctly. The closest we have in the curriculum is valid argument form #5: A--m-->B-->C. Would greatly appreciate any help in clearing this up. Don't have any background in lawgic beyond 7sage so this section of the lessons seems to be giving me the most trouble.

So, the 15 minute break is a time we can either rest and recharge for the final push, or just as easily, it's a time we can let our anxiety fester and boil. Having a 15 minute break plan can help maximize its potential benefits while minimizing its detriments. Since June is just a stone's throw away, I thought I'd share my strategy and see what others do.

So first the easy part. The snack. I keep it simple and natural. I have a banana and a clif bar. Then I have 8 oz of green tea which I make by shaking tea powder in a water bottle. Simple enough.

And of course, use the restroom.

The mental and emotional game is much more difficult. It's of course easier said than done, but don't dwell on the three sections that are behind you. If you've had two reading sections and one LR, then sure, make a mental note that you know you've got LR and Games coming at you, but don't think about your performance. It's done and there is nothing to be gained by giving it any thought while there is still more to come.

The other test takers can create either a positive or negative atmosphere, so feel free to disengage if you're getting a negative vibe. What I've found most useful is to steer the conversation towards prep. This keeps my thinking away from the test and directs it towards my awesome prep which, for every 7Sager, should be a point of pride and confidence. I'll talk about my LG drill system, my top PT scores, 7Sage, all the best things I've done to get to test day. This keeps me calm, confident, and focused. That's what you want going back in.

I really wish we could step outside and get some fresh air and sunshine.

Anybody else have 15 minute break tips?

Hey guys! I just finished core curriculums and did some PTs. I know you all do blind reviews, but so far I haven't done them yet. As a non-native speaker, I feel like my biggest problem is not the correction rate but the speed (I just can't finish!). How does BR really work? Or is there any advice on speed? Thanks ~~!!!

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Once Sky-net takes over, I'm just imagining poor Ross having nothing to do. In a post-apocalypse, a bankruptcy attorney AI would probably be useless.

Hello,

I am new to LSAT, but have a dream of being a lawyer. I have bought the LSAT Bibles, and will be buying the 7Sage starter program. I am just confused on where to start? I have read that people have used the Bibles and 7sage together? How? I am needing about a 10-15 point increase from my diagnostic. I will be sitting for the September test. Which approach should I use? Does 7Sage map out a study plan? I am sorry for all the questions, I am just a bit lost right now.

Hi, I just took my PT 41 and analyzed my score. I have increased my PT score from 150 to 159 until PT 41. However, I am surprised to find my PT score dropping to 147 - which is 12 points drop from my last PT. I don't know if my score is improving or not... I feel like my skill is actually deteriorating. Any advice on how to improve my studying method? I usually do BR on LR section by writing explanation to each answer choice on Word document. For reading, I just redo the whole questions by giving me unlimited time.

Just wanted to reach out and thank everyone who suggested that one should incorporate the LSAT Trainer as part of their studies.

I actually bought the book last year but didn't touch it until last week and I quickly realized how well put together this book really is. It's as if this book knows the mindset of the student and trains you exactly how to go about studying for this darn test. It builds upon each section slowly but picks up exactly when it should.

Mike, if you're ever around here and read this, just want to say that you're the Aristotle of the LSAT world. Or, the coach from that mighty ducks movie (ah I forgot his name). Simply put, you're a genius.

To anyone having second thoughts about picking this book, please do yourself a favour and buy this book. You'll not regret it. I double-triple promise.

Hi guys,

I recently retook the PT 71, which I originally took on October of last year. On my first take, I got a 159 but I didnt BR that exam. On this recent take I got a 169. With the exception of having some problems seeming familiar, the questions still felt new to me and the Reading Comprehension section of this particular pt seemed just as hard as when I first took it. How much do I discount my score considering it was a retake? Can I still use this PT as a measure that my skills have since increased?

Hi 7sagers,

I just wrote preptest 72, and experienced a -6 drop from my score on preptests 70 and 71. Aside from this, I have been experiencing an upward trend, with a fairly consistent score of 170. The scores that have deviated from this in the past are explainable in terms of hunger, poor sleep, etc. - conditions I am learning to eliminate and work through if necessary. That being said, there is nothing obvious that I can point to to explain the drop on this test. I was having some issues with focus, but nothing out of the ordinary. I am conscious that it could be due to an upward trend in difficulty on the newer tests, and perhaps the fact that I have only written 16 tests in total, so my reaction is to want to push myself and write as many as I can before June 6th. However, I don't want to overdo it and write too many because I have heard that it is best to take it relatively easy in the weeks prior to test day. I need to score 170+ on test day, or else I will need to rewrite. Can anyone offer any insight on how I should approach these next two weeks?

Thanks in advance.

I’ve drilled and drilled LG for the past 7 months. I have done nearly 700 LG games, 50 timed sections and really battled to get my LG score close to that coveted -0 or -1. I have not taken any LG sections in the 70s (saving these) and in the last 2 weeks I finally hit -0 on three separate timed LG sections from the early 50s. I felt confident and even finished those sections within 31-33 minutes. My scores prior to achieving the 3 perfect sections hovered around -2 for 3 months. I thought everything was going well. I would take a timed LG section one day, then drill 10 games from the 1-35 PT sets the next day. Today I took PT 39’s LG section and scored an astonishing 11/23. For some perspective, I scored 12/23 untimed during my initial diagnostic last August… I am not necessarily shocked, because I didn’t feel the sense of being “in control” of the games in the PT 39 set, but cannot put my finger on why. Doing well on this test requires honesty with oneself. Eluding the truth about one’s weaknesses is of no virtue. 11/23 doesn’t define my abilities on LG, but points to something systemic that is terribly wrong. If I was really approaching true mastery of the games, I feel as though my "bad days" wouldn't be this terrible. My sense is that when a game doesn’t flow well or doesn’t fit some sort of pattern I have come across before, I stumble and make silly mistakes. Has anyone else experienced this? I take Saturdays and Sundays off completely, so I don’t attribute this to burnout, I wake up excited to prep and learn each day. Any advice or help would be greatly appreciated.

-Thank You

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Hello all,

I will be enrolling in the Ultimate package program in the coming weeks. What I'm concerned about however, is how long most ppl normally take to get through the 7Sage program with substantive results? Is 16 weeks enough time or will I need more?

In addition, I already have a copy of the LSAT Trainer and seem to have observed that there is a consensus in favor of the LR methods taught therein. Is it recommended to substitute the Trainers LR method for 7sage?

Hey guys—saw this on Imgur today. Thought it might be helpful for y'all. And kinda pretty.

I am currently writing my Personal Statement for law schools and I keep receiving conflicting advice on the direction in which one should take for this essay. I hope the 7sage community can lend their advice. On one hand, some say it is imperative to mention in your PS why you want to go to law school, making this point the anchor of the essay. Others, whom I tend to agree with, emphasis that a PS should be an essay that tells admissions something that they would otherwise never know about you, something crucial perhaps in character development. I don't want to write some boring, vanilla-flavored essay that admissions has read a bajillion times, but rather write something that jumps off the page and is memorable. I suppose the two ideas I'm describing can be amalgamated...smh. Please help me, people..

Hey all,

I'm very interested in joining the 7Sage prep course (possibly premuim but due to financial constraints, I think I'm leaning towards Starter) for the December 2016 LSAT but I noticed something that really bugged me - the video explanations for the 10 exams include 7 exams that are extremely difficult to obtain...I searched everywhere and the cheapest PT's I found were the ones posted here (almost $200!!!) I guess my question is: since I can't get 7/10 PT's, should I even bother with buying the prep course?? :(