Does anyone have the LSAT Ultimate? Did you find significant help from it, and did you see results in your scores?

Which one should I choose, if I had to choose one? I can only afford one....

The reason why I am upgrading is because I recently I took a really hard hit...I've been working on the most recent prep tests and my score, which was averaging around 168-170, dropped to 160-163...

One thing that I thought was really helpful about 7sage was listening to JY review the tests. When I take the actual tests, I can hear his voice in my head and it actually helps me go faster...

Is RC similar to LG and LR in regards to the more sections you do it the more you will notice similar questions and therefore be better prepared to answer. I am struggling with this section

Would it be possible to include the "starring" feature of the video lessons onto the video explanations for the PTs? That way, users could also filter their "starred" video explanations and review them rather than going through each PT and finding the question. If 7Sage could implement this, I think it would be a lot better. If other 7Sagers agree, please like and comment on this discussion post!

I know there is no way to predict this, but... anybody with a hunch that this is happening in the next September 27th LSAT?

if i "like" a comment, is that solely for Karma or can i search for those likes to review later?

thanks~

Will practicing the other Games aid in doing well in those random MISC Logic Games? Is there a technique to approaching them? I think it is the initial shock factor that stumps me.

7Sage categorized missed questions on all of the PT's the way that Quizlet categorizes 'missed questions'.

I made a spreadsheet to count the number of missed question types on each PT. It is sort of a hassle to jump back and forth between explanations, answers, papers, and the spreadsheet... but it has helped me recognize which topics I need to review more extensively. I would name my first child 'J.Y.' if 7Sage added something like this.

So, I finished the 7Sage course last week and took my first PT today. I was nervous and a bit panicky throughout the test. I got a 148, even after the course... has anyone else gotten this low even after taking the full course? Also, I took the course seriously and did not half-ass it...

I will be taking the real LSAT this December which leaves me with roughly 3.5 months to grind out more PTs. The law school I am trying to get into accepts on average scores of 158-162. I want to be able to reach 160 so I can be on the safe side. How likely is it for me to reach that goal in this time frame? I will be taking 12 hours of classes, with no job. You can be mean...I just want to know a straight up answer.

Since finishing the 7Sage course, I've been consistently scoring in the 170s. Over the course of 17 PTs, I've had a low of 169, a high of 178, and an average of 174.

The frustrating thing is that I didn't start out scoring 169 and advance to 178; rather, my score fluctuates wildly from one test to the next. This weekend, for instance, I got a 170 on Saturday and a 177 on Sunday.

Equally random is the distribution of my wrong answers. One day, I'll have trouble with an RC passage. The next, it's an LG game that trips me up. Sometimes, it's a bunch of LR questions that push my score down. There seems to be no rhyme or reason to it.

How have those of you scoring 170+ improved your consistency? Any tips from the pros?

Hello, Can anyone provide a list of games like this? The rules that are like "If G---B----> H----F" Or the other ones where it's an either/or thing like, "Either G---B/C or B/C----G" Or, "Either G----B---->H----F, but not otherwise" (bi conditional types). These games always make me screw up my boards and spend 15 minutes on the game. I need help!

I suppose this is more of an aesthetic problem, but on the main page, and also the analytics pages, I often find that the radio buttons are blocking my most recent scores. Specifically, on the home page, the Section "LSAT Analytics" graph has the top right corner blocked by a layer that says "Scaled, Raw, Percentile." Everything is still functional, but it is an annoyance. If that box were moved, or were a dropdown menu instead, that'd fix it.

Did anyone find this test particularly difficult?

Anyone got any? Aside from BR and perhaps a lot of drilling....

I'm discovering that BR and just simply getting used to the new question types helps me a lot. But I'm still far behind what I was scoring in the 30's and even 50's. On PT 59 I FINALLY broke 170 (almost cried) for the first time ever and then on PT 61 I had a 9 point drop! How discouraging :(. It's like finally reaching the top of a mountain and then finding out that there is still one more mountain to climb..with only 6 weeks left to reach the top (I know, my analogies aren't really original...)

Any help at all would be super appreciated! :)

Hey 7Sagers,

I'm doing 52-63 (I think?) PTs on my own with the book. I love that I can score it, but seems like I can't see the explanations here with the basic. Does anyone know which of the upgrades will include it, or do I have to shell out for the Ultimate?

I'm already burnt out. I don't want to have to shell out 600$+ again in 3 months if I want to keep studying for December...anyone has a clue, let me know.

Anyone else notice that the question whose video explanation you are viewing is no longer highlighted in the question numbers on the answer page for preptests? Makes it kind of annoying to go through question by question when doing your review of the preptest and you want to go question by question but don't necessarily remember the specific number of the question you are on. I know it still says the question number on the top of the page but it still is kind of annoying.

Hey all, as the test date nears I have realized that I am not on track with my PT's. I am considering skipping ahead a few PT's to get more comfortable with the more recent of LSAT's. I just finished PT 49 and with that being said, are there are particular LSAT's in the 50's that I should do? I am not going to skip all of 50-59 but I would like to get into the 60's by the end of next week; I write 3 PT's a week.

Hope I can get some insight!

Found this interesting blog post about a logical fallacy in the witch scene of Monty Python and the Holy Grail. It focuses on an inductive argument form and a deductive form (more appropriate for LSAT). The deductive form shows a good example of the difference between truth and validity which is one of the 7sage lessons. Figured I'd share its a pretty fun way to learn the way LAWGIC works.

The scene can be found here:

Note: skip to 0:40 to the beginning of the argument

The break down and explanation can be found here:

http://www.mooneytheology.com/2012/09/logical-fallacies-in-monty-python-and.html

I’ve been studying the LSAT for over 8 months now and am taking an all or nothing approach to September. I had high hopes of getting a low 170 score so I could get into top law schools, but this score is looking more and more like a dream rather than a possibility. The highest score I’ve gotten is a 168, and I’m generally in the 165-167 range, sometimes a point or two lower. Here is my issue: I’ve drilled all the types of questions from 1-38 (LR, RC, LG), and have taken a majority of the prep tests. I have about 15 clean tests left leading up until test day. On the tests, I am almost always getting the same distribution of wrong answers. I review all my tests thoroughly through 7sage, Manhattan forums, and other ways, but I don’t know how the heck I’m supposed to improve here. My distribution is, generally, LR: 5-8 (total), LG (1-3), RC (4-6). For LR, there doesn’t seem to be any obvious disconnect; I’m not getting the same types consistently wrong. It always just seems like I miss a couple of the 5 star difficulty questions each round. There’s no doubt I’m learning some of the intricacies of wrong answers and some of the trap choices, and some of the trends with question types, but I always, when taking the test, get dumbfounded by a couple of questions. I have no idea what to do because it happens every time. LG, I have a good grasp, but for some reason I just screw a question or two up anyway. RC, I don’t even know, there’s just always a couple of questions that throw me off. I’ve tried like every method of RC, but some of those killer questions just throw me for a loop each time, or I’ll run out of time at the end and screw up. Anyone have advice moving forward? At this point with a 3.9+ gpa, I would probably be satisfied with a upper 160 score, but I’m a little nervous of even that so I have to do something here.

Hey, SO I am able to access the lessons when I'm on the laptop, but unable to do so when I'm on the 7sage app.

Is there a bug in the system??

I'm just curious as to what kind of difference folks are generally seeing between their actual performance under timed conditions and their blind review, specifically for RC and LR. (I'm just starting on my LG journey, so it hasn't had as much value there because I'm still learning the basics.)

It's amazing to me how much clearer the distinction becomes between the wrong answer and the right answer on some of the LR questions when I'm not under time pressure. Yet, when push came to shove, I didn't get them right. I'm hoping that/wondering how much drilling will make a difference.

What are you experiencing during your blind review? Do you generally get everything right on the second chance? If so, are most of them coming easily or taking quite a while? What about RC? What progress have you seen towards these areas? Are you getting close to your blind review score?

Thanks for sharing!

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Hi,

I'm wondering what other people have done.

I just got the 300 dollar package and have been plugging along through the lessons. They are AMAZING thus far and I already feel 150% better about prepping for this exam.

So, in terms of looking at grammar, has anyone done extra than just what the lessons give you? I guess I'm wondering, in addition to the problems given, does anyone branch off and do more?

Today I came across this article regarding school rankings in general. I have always been one (maybe because I live Canada) to say that people are WAY to obsessed over school rankings. I have friends that have move up to 4 hours away just to get a business undergrad at school that ranks higher than our local University. I would always say that it is ultimately their choice, but it is not something I would consider doing. Most of the time I would always get the argument back that "it is for the experience". Sorry, but I am not interested in an experience that carries thousands of dollars of extra debt and only makes my life more stressful.

Anyways on to the point, the article states that rankings do not matter as much for basically any type of education OTHER THAN LAW! Essentially, going to a top school is a critical to at least ensuring a successful career post-grad. Give it a read. I'd love to hear what others think.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/bentaylor/2014/08/14/why-law-school-rankings-matter-more-than-any-other-education-rankings/

My parents paid for me to take a testmaster's course on my campus, and I was already going through the 7sage curriculum beforehand. Now, I'm going to the classes and unfortunately am JUST getting started on their homework (sept 27 lsat), but I'm realizing in the class that in my oinion ,the way they teach me logic games is terrible. Even the instructor I have didn't do the games the way he teaches it through testmasters. Would it be a bad or a less beneficial idea to continue using testmasters for logical reasoning and reading comp and use 7sage for logic games? Or should I just brute force it all out with testmasters now?

I apologize for talking about another program here, by the way.

If I'd do the LG with 7sage, i'd probably ask my instructor if it's okay for me to be excused from class every time we get to the LG section of class ( that way I don't waste my time or mess up my studying process).

Additionally, if I used 7sage for logic games, would you recommend finishing the logic games curriculum and then getting the logic games bundle and doing as many of those as I can, over and over?

Thanks everyone. I'm feeling screwed right now.

Hi, My name is Jo and I'm from Southern California. Lots of people had questions about a Sunday Skype session so I hope this post will clarify things.

I would like to go over PT #32 with an emphasis on the LR sections of the test. #32 has a good mix of LR questions. If everyone picks 2 or 3 questions that they had a hard time on, (assuming overlap) there should be around 10-15 questions to discuss.

There is room left for 3, maybe 4 more people and I would like to keep the score range in the 155-160+ range.

If you are interested, you can either email me: jwongemologist@gmail.com or you can message me on forum. Please include Score Range, where you are from, any prep test material you've done, and when you expect to take the LSAT.

Thanks for reading; if you have any additional questions, feel free to either post here or message me.

-Jo