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Hey guys. I need you advice. After doing many PT's I have realized that I just need to focus/master my LG section in order to break into the 170s since I have been doing consistently well in LR and RC. I have read several methods, which one has worked for you? Thanks so much!

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Friday, Aug 29, 2014

Burn out

How do you guys handle it? How many days do you take off? How strictly do you avoid the LSAT? I mean do you not look at any questions? Only do games? Review 5 questions a day? What strategies do folks find not only useful but effective?

I am thinking about taking a few days off starting today -- I will probably take a PT on Tuesday. That's 4 days off. It would be a better idea to take a few days off ahead of time (as in now) as opposed to closer to test date, right? I'll probably keep my head clear and stay away from the LSAT the day before the test though.

What do you guys think? Any tips, suggestions, strategies, etc. will be appreciated. Thanks :)

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With the re-occurrence of rare/old game types such as the circular game from feb 2014 and pattern game from June 2014, should it be anticipated that this kind of trend will continue with the upcoming LSAT's? Also, how would we go about preparing for these games? Focus solely on the old games that shared this game type?

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It's quite frustrating when this happens, especially when it's one of the " easier" logic games...

the first problem of the sequencing homework from the curriculum.

I've done it 4 times and I keep getting some inferences, paring down, and ultimately answers wrong.

What do you do when this happens? I'm so short on time with the test in the 27th, it's starting to loom sinisterly over me.

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this is a minor question, but is the bubbling sheet during the exam a loose leaf piece of paper that is separate from the testing booklet or is it IN the testing booklet? i feel like i lose so much time by flipping to the back of the PT book to find the bubbling sheet, i just want to see if that will also be part of testing day

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http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-65-section-4-question-23/

This question has had me stumped for like 3 days! I have done everything I can to wrap my head around it, but it just doesn't seem to want to click for me. So, is there anyone out there that may be able to help me understand why the correct answer is correct, I basically ruled all the answers out and guessed (E), but can see why its wrong after the fact. It is a most strongly supported question.

The question begins with background: Dogs are descendants of domesticated wolves.

Premise: It has recently been found that some dogs are much more closely related genetically to wolves than to most other breeds of dogs.

Conclusion: This shows that some dogs are descended from wolves that were domesticated much more recently than others.

(B) starts off telling us that we are talking about the dogs more closely related to wolves than to other dogs (so thats good), it finishes with the former breed (the ones we need) has more recent undomesticated ancestors than the latter breed has.

For simplicity, lets call the dogs that are from wolves domesticated more recently, Group A. The other dogs = Group B

I ruled (B) out right off the bat because of the UNDOMESTICATED. I thought that was to an inference that was to far out of scope. Next, the stem tells us that the dogs in group A come from wolves domesticated more recently than the wolves Group B is related to. But, based on this how can we infer which group has more recent undomesticated ancestors?

I don't know what I am overlooking for this not to make sense. Hopefully someone can clear this up for me. Thanks in advance!

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I don't know if anyone else feels the same way, but here's what I feel would make this presently perfect website even better.

For the videos for the prep test Review, I would like these two features added:

1) the "Next" button that we see on the lessons. For the LR section especially, since there are so many questions, it would be easier to navigate if there is the "Next" button right under the video instead of having to scroll down and manually look for the next question. I know it's really not crucial, but it's the small details that really bring about perfection.

2) the option to stay on full screen while the videos move from one to the next automatically (kinda like the playlist feature on Youtube). As for me, since I am a man of weak will, I easily get tempted to be distracted every time I exit from full screen and switch between videos. If I could stay full screen, I think it could help control my temptation.

Thank you 7Sage!

JSK

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Suppose you chose A, then chose B during blind review and it turns out the answer choice was C. How do you guys approach this situation? These are the questions JY claims we don't understand and are a good candidate to skip. I'm curious to know folks personal approach (e.g., flash cards, discussion, tutor, etc.).

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In an ideal word, the best decision one can make regarding the LSAT is for them to just take the test when they are ready. I get that. Unfortunately, I'm not living in an ideal world and am working full time and studying 12-15 hours a week. While this is sustainable for the next month (and maybe until December) I have NO DESIRE to do it again, starting from scratch. I'm currently registered for the September LSAT and will likely score in the 166-168 range. Is there any admissions downside to powering through and taking the December LSAT as well if my score is lower than expected or I feel like I'm on a roll and can add some points with fine tuning? My current line of thinking is that it would be the most efficient and effective use of my time to build on the months of studying I have already done if I don't like my September score and try again for December. I know the advantages of waiting to take the test again in February or June next year include more time to study, but as I mentioned before, my current study regimen and professional workload are incompatible. Any thoughts or recommendations are welcome!

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Mr. Ping said that to strengthen an argument, we ought to look for an answer that provides more support between the premise and the conclusion, or provide a reason why the assumption in the argument is valid or sound. But other prep companies (i.e. Manhattan LSAT) say that a valid answer choice to a strengthening question can also make the conclusion more likely to be true, without affecting the premise-conclusion relationship.

When I reviewed PT23 S3 Q10, the correct answer choice B) does not seem to relate to any assumption in the argument, or provide more support between the premise-conclusion link, but rather it makes the conclusion more likely to be true. See: http://www.manhattanlsat.com/forums/q10-if-a-person-chooses-to-walk-t629.html

This question, along with several others, is making me doubt the soundness of Mr. Ping's approach to strengthening questions. Granted, it's always important to identify assumptions made in a LR stimulus that contains an argument, but are we precluding ourselves from selecting the right answer choice to some strengthening questions by doing this alone, instead of also look for possible answer choices that makes the conclusion more likely (adding an additional premise)?

I'm profoundly confused. Can a correct answer choice strengthen the conclusion without touching the premise-conclusion relationship, or not?

Thanks in advance!

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Hey there,

As we're getting closer to the September test, I see a lot of posts regarding whether one should post-pone the test for December in hopes of studying more and and getting a higher score>More money and applying this school year or even waiting until February and applying next year (because law school isn't going anywhere and nobody would want to mess up this one time shot at scoring their best/readiest and getting into better school and owe less money at the end).

My concern is how much do you think the person that applies December Vs September could lose out as far getting the application in line first? Though it is true that the LSAT score is the most important part of the application, and every point literarily counts and could put you in a higher percentile> better school>More scholarship, when does the application being late vs having a few higher points start hurting the look of your application? for example would someone with a 160 taking September LSAT, applying before thanksgiving ( the appropriate time to have everything posted, with schools opening application Oct 1st) get into "better schools" ?than someone with a 164 applying almost late December ? I would appreciate anyone that has looked into this matter or has solid information that could help me out!

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I'm looking for someone to take five sectioned prep tests with - we don't have to take the same tests, I just find it very useful to have at least one other person writing it with me. I've been doing 2-3 tests weekly, will be doing at least three tests/week in September.

I'm planning to take the September test. If we take the same prep tests - yay - BR together. Otherwise it'll be motivation/support.

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I noticed a few of our users having the same issue with the video player, so I'm posting this quick fix in hopes that it helps all of you out!

If you're unable to see the videos or are getting constant html5 issues, the first thing you want to try is clearing your cache and cookies. This varies from browser to browser (and operating systems), so you'll have to look up how to do it on your browser.

If you're still having issues after that, go into your settings (http://classic.7sage.com/account/) and make sure "Use Flash Player" is checked off, then click save.

This should fix your problem, but please note you won't have any of the fancy playback features anymore! (Meaning you won't be able to make J.Y. talk like a chipmunk anymore, which is pretty funny.)

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Just took my first prep test and I am super dissapointed. I have been reading so much material on the LSATS and doing logic games since about June. I am completely shattered of the thought of getting a 140 on my real LSAT in sept. I do not know where to begin to improve my score and I am registered to take the LSAT on sept 27th. My goal is to get into the 160s. I have a 3.55 cum GPA. Any advice would be great. I just picked up both the power score bibles for Logical reasoning and Reading Comp. I work full time and also go to college full time while trying to study for the LSAT.

Thanks

Justina

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http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-65-section-4-question-13/

I wanted to check my understanding on this question vis. all of yours. I got this question wrong, however, in my blind review, I noted a necessary assumption and wanted to see if it's actually necessary to the argument or if I'm fooling myself.

The n.assumption I identified was that the quality of the teachers are more important to the quality of the education than the size of the class. If this weren't true -- if something was more influential to the quality of the education than the quality of the teachers, e.g. class size -- then I don't see a way for the argument to possibly function, however, this isn't the answer. The answer states that there aren't any available qualified teachers. So I was wondering if the assumption I identified is truly required and just isn't one of the answer choices listed, or if I'm really deluded on this issue. Thanks!

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Has anyone else had problems with 7Sage loading? The first couple of weeks that I used this website I had absolutely no issues whatsoever, however this week the screens are constantly trying to load and timing out. I have really enjoyed the lessons, but I am spending a lot of time waiting for the website. It is a complete motivation killer! My internet is otherwise working fine. Anyone else having issues or have any suggestions? Thanks!

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Hello, as the discussion title states, I am wondering why there is such a big difference. I have been studying for about 5 weeks and finally took my first PT (the June 2007) and scored 146. After Blind Reviewing, I managed to score a 167. Can someone please help me explain why there's such a big difference and what I can do to actually score my Blind Review score in future PT's I take? Thanks!

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Just wondering what's up with the Advanced Logic lessons? All other lessons seem to be working fine, but none of the lessons in the Advanced Logic section are working. I have tried deleting my cookies and clearing the cache, but it did not resolve the problem. Anyone else having the same problem?

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Monday, Aug 25, 2014

Music

I read an article about a study that claimed the genre of music you listen to affects your intelligence. Then I read another article about a more recent study that claimed that the genre of music you listen to does not affect your intelligence. Regardless of which one of these studies is true I was curios to know what you guys listen to in general or before a practice test. And do you think it affects your test-taking skills?

When I was practicing logic games I was listening to Fabolous' Gettho Fabolous album but am not sure if it helped. Logical Reasoning was damn near impossible to understand while listening to music.

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Did anyone else have trouble with PT 65 in particular? I've scored between a 167 and a 173 on the last 7 PTs (newer PTs), averaging around a 168. I got a 163 on this PT. My strongest sections are RC and LR, with those hovering around a +24/+22. I'm working on improving LG, where I usually score around a +16/+18. LG felt easy, but I completely tanked the Game 4 with an incorrect gameboard. As I was completing RC, I could tell it was just a really difficult section. But as I worked my way through the LR sections, I thought I was doing really well. I corrected two answer choices during B/R in each section of LR, and not only did I miss all of the questions that I actually got wrong, but I changed several correct answer choices! Typically, I know when I missed a question as I'm answering it. I know that I missed something and I just move on and fix it in B/R. Today was completely different. I'd be less concerned if this happened with a PT in the 40's or 50's, but PT 65 is so recent that I'm worried this is a trend I'll continue to see...I'm registered for the September administration and running out of PT's to take. Did anyone else have an off test with PT 65 in particular? How do I re-adjust my strategy if this is a trend I'll continue to see? Any insight would be much appreciated! (:

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Hi,

I'm not using any of these test prep books because of what I've read on law school forums about how they're not very helpful and not "actual" LSAT questions. But I'm just curious to know, what makes them unhelpful? Is the making of an LSAT question so complex that it's just impossible to replicate unless you are an LSAT test writer?

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