So I'm looking through the packages to purchase, and just want to clarify that the starter, premium, and ultimate all have the same amount of lessons, the only thing that differs is the amount of practice problems and PT explanations?

Also I have two more questions:

1) Is it possible to adequately get through the core curriculum in a month

2) For those using the cambridge packets, do you drill those specific questions after the corresponding lesson. Ex. Flaw lesson completed, drill flaw questions.

Thank you for taking the time to read this message.

I just took PT 50 and I felt like I did not even know how to complete the exam. I have familiarized myself with the test since December, but I felt like the questions were completely different than those in the 30s and 40s. I ended up circling 75% of the LR questions. Also, I could not complete 1-10 in ten minutes. Probably 4 out of the first 10 were extremely difficult. The LG was easy, but the LR was brutal. Has anyone else had this experience? Is this test an anomaly? Is this test the beginning of the drastic changes and turns that the LSAT takes?

@amanda_kw

@nicole.hopkins

@ddakjiking

@Pacifico

@"Nilesh S"

@emli1000

Just got the book. What's been a good method for folks as far as how to use the trainer in combo with 7 sage?

Hi All,

My beau is in the process of applying for jobs all over the place. Previously, I had thought that we would stay put in Chicago, which is why I was going to focus on LUC and Chicago Kent (ahem, and roll the dice on NU).

Any tips on trying to figure out applying to schools in various locations? My guy is a scientist, so the whole job search process is really topsy turvy, so I feel like I'm in a situation where I just have to cast a bunch of apps & figure things out from there. I didn't really expect to be in this situation. Adventure time? It's kind of overwhelming to try to pump myself up for a major score jump in the LSAT with the idea of applying to a bunch of schools that I'm unable to figure out, except in the virtual world.

Thanks, all!

As most of you know, my original plan was to start my studies by completing the trainer. But I am really thinking about using 7sage as the main curriculum because I find it a lot harder to read and focus with my son around. I also try reading at work,which is more successful than doing so at home, but it is a very slow process. I am making progress but I am not able to adhere to the schedule provided by the trainer and I am at least two weeks behind in drills! Smh. I think maybe if I had 7sage's video course I could move through the curriculum faster and have more time to effectively drill since I won't be as tired from reading.

I spend most of my time attempting to read the chapter, getting interrupted during drills, and then going to work only to be met with more interruptions. After my chaotic studies are over for the day, I wake up the next day and barely remember a thing lol. Then the vicious cycle starts all over again. A slow, grueling, non-efficient process that doesn't allow me to maximize my full potential. By no means do I think it will be a magic solution, but I think using the 7sage course will be more beneficial because of my lifestyle. I can simply sit back and actively listen, which is a lot less time consuming than actively reading. What do you guys think? Anyone else experiencing a similar issue?

Hey! I'm thinking about starting July1st studying for the October write. I already bought the LSAT Trainer and was wondering whether I should do the 7sage premium course after I read the LSAT Trainer, or read the LSAT Trainer after 7sage.

Also what are your thoughts on LG, I heard 7sage is enough for LG so should I skip the LSAT Trainer section on LG to prevent confusion?

I'm a little over a month into studying after first starting with the lsat trainer (50% completed) and basic 7sage course (30%) completed. I'm confused as to what my focus should be on right now with an anticipated test date of Oct 2015. What additional materials should I buy for drilling...and when exactly does that come into play following the 7sage syllabus?

Are existing users who purchased the Ultimate package going to have the option to upgrade to Ultimate + once it becomes available?

Getting a little frustrated with all of the sudden changes. :/

This question might strike some as odd. If it does, I apologize in advance. I'm having a problem carving a block out of any day for a full length timed test. What are the draw backs, aside from not subjecting myself to the mental anguish of sitting there for 4 hours, of taking the sections individually under the same strict timed conditions? I understand the importance of taking timed tests, but I also have to juggle everything else as well. Is it more important to keep the tests for the days that I can complete it undisturbed or to actually complete timed sections each day and take full length practice tests every now and then? My fear is not doing enough timed sections by limiting myself to only taking full length tests. I'm interested in hearing opinions from others that might be in the same boat and from those that are "LSAT deities." Some teachers, such as Nathan Fox, believe there is nothing wrong with completing PT's in this manner as long as full length PT happen every once in a while for acclimation to the full test. To provide a background on myself, I have been through the curriculum twice, The Trainer once and have completed 8 post PT 36 tests in a mixture of the methods questioned above.

@amanda_kw

@nicole.hopkins

@ddakjiking

@Pacifico

@"Nilesh S"

@emli1000

Most people who take many exams of the lsat plateau at some point. How did you escape your plateau?

I'm about to start the PTing portion of my study.

I've also just purchased the Cambridge LR bundle that covers all question types for the section. What's the best way to use it? PT, discover my weaknesses and then incorporate the drilling into my refresher study from the core curriculum and Trainer?

Any advice welcomed!

I have been studying since January, for the October test. On July 4th I plan to make the big transition to the PT stage for the final three months.

However, I am finding Logic Games to be very, very deadly!

Currently on 21 of 35 sets in the LG bundle and I can still barely complete a game (aside from simple sequencing) without having to turn to the video - and that's after 30/40 minutes on each game.

I read on here of many folks who have nailed LG by the time they start PTing, and I am worried that I have slipped far behind with this section.

Did others enter the PT stage still really struggling with LG? I should be able to improve lots in 3 months, but it's going to need to be done while PTing.

Anywords of wisdom, violin playing, welcomed!

I am really struggling on making these distinct. I can recognize the stems, but the answers are gnarly for me.

Any advice? I am going through the trainer right now, and I'll have to review, but he seems to be rather brief on these, especially Required vs. Sufficient.

The biggest clue I can read is that the sufficient answers can be crazy, and mention weird things. But, obviously, this is not enough. I am totes struggling, and any help is appreciated. I'm thinking I should get Cambridge now.

For most of the lessons there is both a video portion and a written article portion. Are these designed to complement each other, or do they say essentially the same thing? In the interest of time, I have generally been picking one or the other for each lesson, and only reading and watching the video together if I really need help understanding the topic. Sorry if this is a redundant question, I couldn't find it discussed elsewhere on the site.

While going through the lessons, I've started to find a fond sense of enjoyment in hearing the comical remarks JY makes for many of the outrageously wrong answer choices on the LSAT. Feel free to post anything that made you laugh. Also by no means is this thread restricted to only the remarks made for wrong answer choices.

Took the June lsat and waiting on scores. Anyone have advice/good links as far as where to start with preparing for fall admissions? What should I be doing right now application wise?

Hey 7Sagers, had a few users a bit confused about the difference between trivial & non-trivial inferences on this lesson:

http://classic.7sage.com/lesson/quiz-on-drawing-valid-conclusions-2/#comment-30714

Think you guys can shed some light?

@captainoats @linette.m

Confession: I am a free user, mooching off of this discussion forum.

I am going through the The LSAT Trainer and once I finish, I'll take 3 diagnostics. From there I will most likely go through the Power Score books in all of the sections I am missing more than 3-5 in. Finally, I will get a private tutor for 10-15 hours to help me identify specifically what I struggle with (either question types or time) and how to attack it (accepting offers for tutoring hah).

Questions:

1. Recently, I saw in a thread someone mention doing the Trainer with 7sages program. Do they compliment each other well? Can someone tell me if 7sage is worth investing in considering I already brought all these other books before I found out about 7sage? I am already on the fence considering the explanations of each PT may prove to be invaluable.

2. What Cambridge books should I get? (links appreciated) I only just saw these in a thread 5 minutes ago. Are they for helping with time. Tell me more about these please.

3. (Kind of dumb) I haven't started studying reading comprehension, but no one anywhere seems to be that concerned with it even though its 50% of the test. Is it really that much easier than the others?

Thanks and 180s for all!

I had to take a small break from LSAT Prep and 7sage due to a serious family emergency but now I have decided to resume studying. When I had been previously studying, the PDFs were on the verge of disappearing so I decided last minute to upgrade from Premium to Ultimate and quickly download all the PDFs/PTs onto a flash drive. Now that I have returned, I have been having some difficulty navigating through the new 7sage layout and I'm fairly confused despite going through several discussion threads. I have some questions that maybe some of you could answer:

1.) Are there no more video explanations or answers to the PDFs that I downloaded? I can't find any answers or explanations but I have all these PDFs. I'm pretty sure I remember reading that the video explanations were not going to disappear but I can't seem to find them.

2.) What was the total number of PDFs/PTs available to "ultimate package" students prior to the PDFs being removed? I just wanted to make sure that I downloaded them all.

3.) Should I ignore the new problem sets that have been posted and stick to solving the ones in my old PDFs? Is there some benefit to sticking with one or the other? Should I be doing both old and new?

4.)The "percentage completed" is no longer accurate now because of the old PDFs being removed, correct?

5.) Why are the new problem sets fairly easy as compared to the old PDFs?

I apologize for bombarding everyone with all my questions but I feel lost and off track due to the break I took and the major changes in the structure of 7sage. I hope someone can help clarify these for me, that would be greatly appreciated. I would also find it really beneficial if someone who has all the old PDFs and has access to the new problem sets could elaborate on their study methods for going through the problem sets. Thank you!

So just took June 07' exam and disaster is an understatement. I'm 40% of the way through the curriculum and I was expecting to hit 160+ on this considering I've put in a good amount of study time. This was my 3rd practice test (took two diagnostics earlier and scored in the low 150's) and I'm really disappointed with the outcome. To give you an analogy, I felt like a rookie QB making his first start in the NFL. Things were happening so quickly and I couldn't get myself to answer the questions effectively and efficiently.

Here's my breakdown: LG: -6(guessed on 5 questions, one of which I got right) LR-13 (skipped 5 questions) and RC- -6. Total:158

On the bright side I managed to get a 174 after BR: LG-0 LR-5 RC-0.

I have two concerns and I'd really appreciate any input/advice:

1) That I don't have enough time from now until Oct to hit 167+. 3.5 months seems like a short time to make this jump.

2) That I'm just not quick enough to achieve a 167+ score. On all 3 exams I've had to skip a considerable amount of questions, and I can't imagine getting any quicker. Completing all questions within 35 min is really difficult for me.

How many practice tests did it take you guys to get comfortable with the LSAT? Were you hitting your target score after, say, 3-4 practice exams? I've read that the biggest jumps in scores should be taking place within your first few practice tests.

Sorry for rambling, but the LSAT is constantly making me apprehensive. I have a really good GPA and it's the only thing holding me back at this point from attending a T-14. Any help, advice, input, or stories from your prep experience would be extremely helpful. Thanks 7sagers.

Hello 7sage warriors.

I've posted in a different discussion with regard to my recent troubles on putting the 7sage curriculum into practise however, I would like to hear some thoughts on whether or not some type of different strategy would help.

Basically, I am shooting for the Oct. LSAT date (and a 138 ->160*ish improvement) so I can hopefully enrol into 1L for next 2016. I have the rest of the summer left with no large distractions (taking 1 summer class twice a week); have put in already 1 month worth of the curriculum (33% of ult. complete) at roughly 5-8 hours a day. Long story short, I have ups and downs, correct answers and misses throughout the lessons, yet when it comes to the PS I find myself struggling to complete these and really gain any confidence in my skills and abilities.

As far as scheduling, as stated I go MON-SUN and study for as long as possible (or until I get to the point of negativity and frustration emerge) and I take a break, or take a day off, workout, etc. I have been writing detailed notes on many of the problem types, and have done most of the PS scheduled in the curriculum (the changeover kind of messed me up, but I've done most of them). I am also just starting the Logic games portion of the LSAT Trainer, and have been doing at least 1 lesson a day of that for the past 2 weeks.

Some of you have messaged me with support and advice, and I'd like to thank those who have taken the time. With that being said, I am starting to acknowledge that perhaps this will take me a little bit more time than others to fully grasp some of these strategies and problem types; should I continue on in the curriculum with these troubles in mind, finish the curriculum, and then go back for a round 2 so to speak? Should I schedule my day's in smaller blocks of studying? Have other's felt this sort of 'quick-sand' feeling, where, after a month - no concrete or tangible improvements have been acknowledged?

As I said, I've got work-ethic on my side and I'm not going to quit... but damn would I love to see some improvements or signs of skill building. Thanks,

Matthew

I'm just now starting to do logic games, and it is completely foreign to me. My question: Do we not write on our master game board with inferences and rules annotated on it? Sorry, if it seems like a silly question; I am just super confused.

I need more space for the games!

What have people found to be the most efficient way of studying. I am almost done with my 7Sage lessons, and wondering how I should continue my studies. I have all the prep tests out there, and all the Cambridge question specific drill packets. The only drilling I have done is the drilling at the end of each section the 7sage course provides. I am registered for the December Administration, and want to utilize the 5 months that I have to drill and PT in the most efficient way possible. I am not looking to get good at this test, I am looking to achieve close to perfection, if not perfection itself. I want to know what you guys have done to dominate this test. What techniques you used to drill, PT, and overall to get really good at this test.

Does anyone think it hurts your chances of scholarship if you only apply to one school? my question is basically: Does having multiple applications and offers out there foster an environment of competition for qualified candidates, Basically rewarding u for attending their schools, OR do u get rewarded the same way if you have good qualifications and only apply to one school?!