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When an answer choice says “it is a statement that the argument provides grounds to accept and from which the overall conclusion is inferred”, is this essentially the premise.

Or is the premise “it is a premise offered in support of an intermediate conclusion of the argument “?

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Hi all,

I have decided to retake and reapply after being waitlisted at my top choices. My Question is: I got a 166 on the LSAT. Is there anyway to update that on my 7sage account, or would I need to take another PrepTest to get my current to get a tailored "what I need to work on".

Not sure if that makes any sense but I appreciate your insight.

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Hi Guys,

Do you know if the LSAT is compatible with the macOS Sonoma update? I have been holding off on updating my laptop for a while now and just wanted to see before I do so.

Thanks in advance!

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Hey y'all, is anyone in Philly looking to study together/create a study group? I'm planning on taking the June 2015 exam, I've been studying for about 3 months with the LSAT Trainer and just started the 7sage program. I am happy to share the Trainer and compare methods. Let me know if you are in the area and want to meet up and study/review/discuss either the test in general or specific questions and PTs. Good luck to everyone!

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I am very new to practicing for the writing sample, so I have some questions that might seem like common sense to other people. I'm sorry.

I notice sometimes that when I'm arguing for a particular choice I catch myself wanting to fill in gaps with stated assumptions that are necessary for my point to logically follow. However, sometimes these include outside information or things that are not stated in the prompt. For example, one of the writing sample prompts from an older prep test stated two options for filling in the gaps in a shop owner's inventory: either adding a line of metalwork items from a regional artists consortium, or becoming the sole representative for the artwork in the estate of a deceased painter. This painter lived most of his life in the area but the majority of his works were painted elsewhere. One of the criteria is that the shop owner wants to specialize in locally produced artwork. I was wondering as I wrote if the line of metalwork from the regional artists consortium meant artwork made by regional artists producing in the region. In other words, as I was writing, I was assuming that the line of metalwork was made locally. In these occasions, even if I do not know for sure, should I clarify that that they were made locally?

Another question that I have is about including not just the facts in the prompt, but also considerations to support my arguments. Of course, I know I have to use the facts, but in addition to the facts, can I also write about considerations? For example, in the same practice essay I was writing about how the choice of adding the line of metalwork would help the shop owner fulfill her goal of attracting new customers, since sustainable art is in trend among environmentally conscious art collectors, but such a consideration is not a fact. I am assuming the truth that materials such as metal are more ecologically friendly compared to oil and paper, for example. But, then again, I am making the assumption that the paintings were not watercolors... Then I caught myself thinking that I'm also making the assumption here that the scraps of metal were responsibly disposed of and no mercury or other toxic metals were used. My common sense says most probably not or the artists would also be dead, but anyway, these thoughts still intrude as I write. I need some guidance, or maybe someone to smack me over the head.

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Taking the August test. Last week I was finishing up the modules and I was flying through them and I felt like I could understand the test like Neo at the end of the Matrix. Then starting this week I have tried to study and I feel like all of that is out the window. In some aspects its like last week never happened and I feel like I'm back to square one. I was told I might be burned out but I don't feel like that at all, I felt really good but then it disappeared. Help me get that feeling back cause it will take me to the promised land!

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Hi Everyone!

Head’s up: later this month, LSAC is doing a system-wide upgrade that will affect some of their online services. It will begin at 5 p.m. ET on Friday, December 22, and is expected to end at around 5 p.m. ET on Saturday, December 23. During these 24 hours, certain LSAC services, including candidates’ online accounts on LSAC.org and LawReady, will be offline.

During this time, people will be unable to complete transactions such as registering for a future LSAT, submitting fee waivers or accommodation requests, accessing their accounts, or submitting applications.

Services on LawHub.org will remain available during the upgrade window. Scheduling for the January 2024 LSAT will continue through Prometric. However, information on candidate accounts will not be updated until the upgrade is completed.

If you have any further questions, you can contact LSAC via https://lsac.zendesk.com/, email them at lsacinfo@lsac.org, or call them at 215.968.1001.

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I have a diagramming problem. I can fly through a complex question stem without diagraming, particularly on parallel reasoning and other LR questions but some harder former questions require diagramming and I can diagram for the live of me. Any tips on the cc?

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Proctors: Very familiar with the procedure and strictly following them.

Facilities: Restrooms are close by and everything is clean and perfect.

What kind of room: Medium-sized lecture rooms.

How many in the room: 50 - 80

Desks: Long desks, more than enough space to spread out your stuff

Left-handed accommodation: Yes

Noise levels: Minimum

Parking: Ample parking in front of the building.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: Everyone was lined up in the first floor lobby first (testing rooms are on the second floor) and got assigned a piece of paper. If you arrive at 8:25 or later, you probably will have to be escorted to the testing rooms. The test started at around 9:30.

Irregularities or mishaps: Once during the test I heard a car alarm go off for about 15 seconds.

Other comments: The test center is at Hofstra Law School. People there are familiar with the test and the testing conditions are ideal. This place is just quiet throughout. The proctors can be very strict.

Would you take the test here again? Absolutely!

Date[s] of Exam[s]: 2014 Sept, 2015 Oct.

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I finished 1L at the Fordham Law. I want to share.

The Cost of Attendance was $116,782

Tuition was (the following year more) $71,224

Class size for 1L: 93 (the number of people in my classroom).

My points about Fordham law:

The quality of education: as low as it gets.

The professors need to be more engaging and interested in their topic.

Most students would not attend the classes if not the mandatory attendance.

I have a law degree and practiced law outside of the US. And I loved it. But experience in Fordham law school would make me feel the opposite.

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So around July I will be done with the CC, and I plan on testing in October. I also know that I may not finish every PT that is available right now, but which PT would you recommend me to start from? should I start with the older PT's or just the newer ones (141-158)?

Thank you in advance!

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How did everyone feel about the Retest?

I had RC, LR, LR, LG.

RC (Ormes Comic Strip – Torcy Comics (civil rights movement)

Comparative Passage: Micro Finance in the Bangladeshy Banking Systems.

Theories of Property Ownership

Einestein and Dark Matter and the Expanding Universe(had the most trouble on this passage)

LR#1

grandfather drinking and you know lived a long time

morally virtuous and honesty people

Mites in a cave

health in there I think

LR#2

Periwinkle’s

Bat pups

sleeping platypus or platypi

Claims PH

LG:

1)Traveling to different cities Houston, Seattle, Toronto, Montreal.

2)China cabinet: gold, silver, vases, tea cups.

3) 4 Summer Camp Activities for 12 consecutive weeks

4) 3 interviews: reasources, personel, training for 1, 2 or 3 weeks.

Did anyone else have the same content as me, or something different? I’ve heard some people had different than me but I thought a retest was suppose to be the same content just different question and section orders so I don’t know but curious to see how everyone felt about it compared to first test and type of test

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Hey guys, I have been studying for 4-5 months now and I started with a 136 pt score. I did see improvement with 7 sage and got my highest score to a 147. My goal is a 150-155. However, when I take pts recently my score is not really improving. it has been 145, 138, 147, 139, 140, 139 in 2-week increments. I also notice that especially in Rc i don't get to finish all the passages on time and have to guess. What is some advice or things you did to help with score improvement? I plan to take the LSAT in august, so I have 2-3 months to get 10 points +

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Proctors: Two easygoing proctors. They want you to do well so they are worried that there are no distractions (such as, people coughing/sneezing too much, noise outside the classroom, and people with annoying tics). Proctors do not mind if you take a couple of more seconds (after time is up) to finish with the section (they even wait for you:)

Facilities: Restrooms are kind of far from the classrooms (but if you run to your way there and your way back, you are just fine! The running also help you to release stress).

Kind of Classroom: small classroom

How many in the classroom: 20 (we all have a lot of space in between us)

Desk: Fabric tablet arm chair (very comfortable; your buns won't hurt after being seated for 5 hours).

Left Handed Accommodation: There were two people who were accommodated accordingly.

Noise Level: The classrooms that were assigned for LSAT purposes were isolated from main hallways, food courts, or populated areas. LSAT takers were in classrooms that were close to each other. In other words, no noise.

Parking: Free, plentiful, very close to the area where we had to meet before going to our corresponding classrooms.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: 1h 15m. Got there at 7:30 AM, we started the exam at 8:45 AM

Irregularities/mishaps: None. All the proctors were very efficient and super nice.

Dates of Exam: June 2015 and October 2015

Other Comments: I love the atmosphere at Broward College; you can feel the positive energy, which really helped me that day because I didn't sleep well, I was nervous and had a lot of anxiety. Proctors were very friendly and you can feel that they want you to do well. I highly recommend Broward College, Coconut Creek, Florida

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