I just took PT 59. In the PT scorer it says that section 2 LR is "easiest" and section 3 is "harder". I got 50% accuracy on section 2 but 84% accuracy on section 3. If I can fix this problem my score would probably be a lot better. My weaknesses are MSS and Flaw questions (could be that section 2 had more of these types). How do you guys approach Flaw and MSS? I feel like there's some connection I'm not making.

Anyone recall any games with bi-conditional rules similar to Game 4 in PT69 and Game 2 PT56?

Also, if anyone happens know of any sequencing games that incorporate bi-conditional rules that would be helpful too.

Thanks!

Hi fellow LSATers!

I'm looking for study buddies for the October 2013 exam, as I'll be studying full time up until the exam.

I'm currently scoring in the 167-170 range, and would like to consistently hit 170+ by October.

Bonus if you're strong(er) in Reading Comp/Logical Reasoning but weak(er) in Games, as I am the opposite and we could complement each other.

Ideally interested in meeting up/Skyping to bounce ideas off of one another, discuss strategy, and see different thought processes to arrive at the credited response.

Do any of you guys try "predicting the answer" after reading the stimulus and question stem on LR but before reading the answer choices? I recently started attacking the problems this way and have since found them more manageable. I think it's because one of the most challenging aspects of LR is parsing really convulted material in a short period of time...something so verbally taxing is only made worse when trying to juggle answer choices that are all designed to tempt you. I noticed that I started employing this method naturally over time but didn't see improvement until I did so actively. Granted, you can't always predict which angle they'll take but doing so will at least give you the advantage of understanding the parts of the argument more thoroughly.

So I'm about half way through my three months of training with 7 sage and the only PT I've taken is the first diagnostic one. Should I be taking full length tests at this point or should I be supplementing my studies with timed sections (I didn't get a lot of problem sets from 7 sage so the sections would be from preptests). I know that realistically I may only have time/energy for sections until I finish the lessons (two jobs and grad school) and if I do full length I may not be as thorough in blind review. That being said, if doing so would be worth it, I'd like to know.

Thanks!

Okay guys so basically, I wrote a pt a few weeks ago only to get a 149. So I've drilled a ton in the meantime both in LG, some rc, and lots of LR. I take one today, and I got a 145 somehow. Misread a rule on a LG, crashed and burned so badly on RC. Did terribly. However, I've been BR'ing my test, without like at the answers as we are told here, and I've been adding in the BR'ed sections throughout the day.

So, I've got my 145 from todays pt, but with my BR im up to 156 and I've still yet to do my RC BR section (which I got like 9-10 right on - didnt even make it to the last passage at all ran out of time)

i'm hoping I'll end up at atleast 160 when I finish up my BR of this PT fully tomorrow morning, but I guess I've just gotta ask: What does this really mean for me? It felt like a punch in the stomach when I got such a low score back after I've put in so much careful work, but at the same time I feel like its so unrepresentative of what I'm capable of, even with my given skill at this moment. The BR kind of just made me think this more.. but what do you guys think?

Is it possible I'm just awful with timing but my fundamental skills are pretty solid?

Hi, is there a list of which logic games are included in which homework PDFs? For example, to which PDF does Preptest 29, Game 2 belong? I ask because I have these logic games printed out (without the cover page) and now I can't remember what goes where...and somehow am not finding it just sorting through the PDFs on my computer. Help?

EDIT: Heh, well I figured out which PDF my "orphan" games are from...I still think a reverse-lookup list might be helpful, though. :-)

Is there a way to refresh what the course shows as already been completed? I extended my schedule and want to go through the whole course again, but what Iv already done a while ago still shows as completed.

For JY and other who teach 7sage lsat prep:

What did you guys score on the actual LSAT? What was your diagnostic score when you started?

So, my recent PT score was 170 timed, 180BR! I'm pumped. Thanks 7Sage, everything is coming along nicely.

-0 LG

-1 RC

-4 LR

-5 LR

I missed 3 questions because of incorrect bubbling, though I circled the correct answer! Just a warning for others out there. Be careful bubbling.

I missed 2 because I ran out of time on the first LR and guessed on the last two. The lesson I learned from this, is not to vacillate on questions. There were a couple early on that I wasted time on. You really have to trust your intuition on some of the questions, and realize you don't have time to do a full diagram, etc... you just have to select an answer just because it feels right.

I missed one because I didn't know the definition of a word used. lol

In the end there was only one that I feel I "should've" gotten wrong as it took a long time on BR to solve.

All of the errors could have been avoided had I not misread details while being rushed. I felt like slapping myself on most of the errors I made.

Anyway, just a "high five" to JY. Thus far I've gone from a raw score in the 50's before 7sage, to a 66 midway through, 70's after the course, to hitting 89 on a 99point test after a few tests/BR.

On some PTs you need 9 wrong to get a 170, while on others you can have 11 wrong and get a 170.

Is that an indication of difficulty or just something I shouldn't worry about?

My videos keep freezing at random spots and don't restart after waiting sometimes up to 20+ minutes....tried three browsers and same issue, though sometimes just refreshing will cause the video to reload.

Hi,

The screens do not show the arrow to initiate playing the recordings? Is the system down? Help, please!

Thank you!

Does anyone have any good advice on improving consistency within each section. I've been taking about 4 prep tests a week for a while now, and my score fluctuates anywhere from -2 to -8 in LR, and -3 to -9 in RC. Its super frustrating because Im generally doing well on 3 of the sections, and then all of the sudden, I get a -8 or -9 and it kills my score. I'm having trouble figuring out why this is happening, and simply going over the answers I got wrong, while helpful, isnt fully doing the trick..

anyone else have this problem with some good tips??

Hi guys,

Just wanted to gather some opinions from you all about how you are preparing for the newer logic games. As many have noticed the games have changed after the mid PT 50s to late 50s, and it seems there are more "randomized hybrid" games that now appear on each PT. I had been practicing with the Fool Proof method for all logic games before what I consider to be the modern LSAT (PTs 53+), but I was stumped on the newer logic games when I first encountered them. I suspect the skills I've garnered from the older games should help me in the newer ones, but honestly, at the moment I see the older games as wasted effort if the newer games continue to be so different and continuously changing.

I suspect this is LSAC's response to ever more clever test prep companies and their formulaic strategies. Any thoughts would be appreciated, thanks.

Regards,

Eric

To clarify regarding the Blind Review Method. As you take a timed section/test, what have you, you're going through picking the right answers and eliminating the wrong ones. Sometimes you cant cross out a an answer 100% (or near) during the timed conditions. BR stipulates that ONLY after you're done time-testing MUST you go back through and find concrete reasons (100%) for the wrong and the right answer choices, correct? After doing such, if you are able to come up with 100% certainty for correct and incorrect answer choices, and you end up getting the question right, you do not need to watch the video, right? When i'm going through a test or section i naturally cross off wrong answers; however, on the ones i do not get to do this (or near) due to timed conditions (the ones where i pick best answer and move on) - if i can after, on the BR, find reasons for the correct and incorrect answer choices then i should feel "good" for that question, correct? Essentially, it is not about being able to mark off w/ near 100% during the timed condition, just on BR, right? I love the BR. I feel it has contributed GREATLY to my improvement. However, I don't want to waste time watching explanations if I really am probably alright with being able to eliminate w/ "100%" under BR even though not always under timed conditions. It might be more prudent to progress. Thanks for any clarification

Jake

If so look at section 1 q22. What was you answer?

Is there a point where one is better than the other, or should both be used in conjunction with one another?

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This is a parallel flaw question.

Original flaw logic structure:

P1: Bank deposited credited on the same date if it is before 3 pm

P2: Alicia knows the deposit before 3 pm

C: Alicia knows the the bank deposit is dated on the same date

To simplify:

P1: A leads to B

P2: someone knows A

C: someone also knows B

Flaw: need a sufficient assumption to cover that gap, someone also knows that A leads to B.

Answer choices:

C. G knows he will be promoted, because G will be promoted if H resigns and G knows H resigns.

(Perfect. It is unclear if G knows he will be promoted if H resigns)

E. P wants to become a social worker. It is well-known social workers are poorly paid thus Pat apparently want to be poorly paid.

(It is unclear if P knows being a social worker will lead to poorly paid)

Or is it because it is asking for similar logic structure, there is a difference between "know" and "want".

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Used both firefox and chrome and same issue on both.

The alternate video player works for the first time I open the page, but if I click outside the page (which makes it close) and reload the video by clicking the link for alternate video, it won't show up. A blank popup appears instead.

Am I doing something wrong? I hate using youtube because it loads slowly compared to the alternative player.

seem to be getting it a lot... I usually use Chrome as my browser, but I've had the same issue using IE and Android.

Which PTs are considered difficult and which ones are (relatively) easy?

I took PT 46 yesterday after upgrading my course from the basic package to premium and I got -4 LR, -0 LG, and -1 RC. On PT 50 I got annihilated on LR (improved to -7 LR, -2LG, -1 RC from -14 LR..). PT 51 was "in between" 50 and 46 because I did better in LR than I did on PT 50 but not as well as I did on PT 46 (-6 LR).

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They seem far simpler than the newer ones.

The newer tests have a ton of abstract language (or so it seems to me) than older tests.

If you were going to do a bunch of PTs where would you start?