is there any resource that is good for identifying premises and conclusions, Im new to my lsat journey and i keep getting tripped up with that

I average anywhere between -10 to -15 on RC which is by far my worst section. But I feel as if I understand the passage fairly well, even confident when finishing a timed section. Is this a misunderstanding in the questions and what they are asking? It is puzzling.

Hello everyone. Basically, I’m looking to see how to approach short RC passages as in passages that have around 5 or maybe 6 questions at most. In my experience, these passages are usually the first to come up in any given section, tend to be on the easier side, and seem like they can be completed in 6-7 minutes maybe 8 at most. However, as someone who struggles reading all 4 passages and often can’t finish the 4th, I need help with how to approach these passages with fewer questions.

Should I focus on completing these types of passages with less questions first in hopes of getting a likely 5-6 extra correct answers given the easier nature of these passages? Or should I skip it and move on to the passages that have more questions but are likely harder which can lead to more incorrect answers?

I hope this makes sense! My October LSAT is quickly approaching and I’m just looking for some last minute refinements to maybe score better on RC given that timing is my #1 enemy in RC. Thanks!

I'm working through some LR drills and going over my wrong answers, but can't seem to find video explanations for PT 3 Section 4, PT 15 Section 2, and PT A Section 4. Any ideas on where I can find them? I looked under the explanation videos tab and was able to find PT 3, but couldn't get videos for section 4 specifically. Same goes for the other PT videos I'm looking for :\

Hi, does anyone have any tips that really helped them improve logic games. I have been working on improving on it for it while and I can't seem to get majority of them right in a section. I am taking the LSAT in November and really want to improve since I have less than 5 weeks.

I'm scoring in the low 160s and I want to maximize my score as much possible in the next 5 weeks.o I will be studying full time,8 hours every single day, tapering down as the test gets closer.

Just wanted to know what other peoples plan of attack is? Also if anyone wants a study buddy/study group for this test please let me know. I'm planning on studying from 4am PST to 8amPST and then from 2pm PST to 6pm PST every day.

Good luck to everyone else taking the November LSAT!

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to work on Necessary Assumption questions. I have tried to use the Must Be True method but it is not working for me or I am not understanding the stimulus. I have tried Negation s test but I am very bad at them and do not know how to improve on how to use them. Does anyone know if there is another method that has worked for them or if there is a drill I missed that can help me hone in on these skills.

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I signed into ProctorU right on the dot at noon ET on Sept 29 to sign up (as soon as we got that email), but NONE of the slots were available.

I'm in the queue to chat with someone from ProctorU, but I was wondering if this is just a technical error on my side or if others were having the same problem...

I am having some major difficulty with LR. I started studying seriously in late July/August with a diagnostic of 158. RC I am pretty good with averaging a -2. LG and LR were my problems with basically -10 in both. I grinded LG for a month and got that down to consistently -0. I got my LR in the range of -4 and -8, but I'm just having consistent LR problems. I took the September exam, got a 168 and I am taking the November test. In the next month I am going to be focusing almost entirely on LR, and I am looking for any tips on improvement there since I have been very inconsistent and almost stagnant. I am hoping I can improve in LR at the same rate as LG. Is it unrealistic for me to break into the 175+ range for November?

For those of you who have struggled with reading comp & improved greatly or even those of you who have always been great at reading comp, could you please give me advice on what you consider is the best way to study for reading comp? Is the CC's reading comp section good/ worth it? Or should I order a book from other test prep material? I have studied well for LG & LR, but I only have a month left to study for RC ( tragic, I know) Any advice would help. Thank you!

UPDATE: I'm taking the November LSAT as a trial run, so I can complete my study schedule (including at least 2 1/2 months of RC) to get the highest score possible in January. Thank you all for the suggestions.

For Logic Games should you usually split the gameboard or not?

I’ve noticed that in the more recent PTs (80+) the following question types show up more than others: flaw, weaken, NA, RRE, PSA, strengthen. Almost all of my incorrect answers have been one of these types. I’m trying to find a new way of looking at these questions and approaching them in the most efficient ways. The strategies in the CC only help to a certain point, does anyone have a good way of answering these question types? I am especially weak on weakening and RRE questions. I’m taking the October test so I am looking to hone these strategies in ASAP. Any advice would be helpful!!!

Just wanted to get this out there for international test takers who couldn't see any slots on ProctorU -- it worked for me!!

Hi all,

Today is the final day to register for the November 2022 test. I am currently registered for the October test but am planning to move my test to November. I have been in a score plateau recently and am confident I can elevate my score the few extra points it needs if I have another month to study. However, I am trying to decide whether it would be to my benefit to keep my October test scheduled and also register for the November test rather than only taking the November test. At this point, the financial cost would be the same to move my October test or to register for a new test entirely. So the question is--do I take the test in a couple weeks, despite knowing that I'm not quite where I want to be and will take it again the following month? Or would it be better to wait until November and take it once, hopefully with more confidence and better grasp of those few question types I'm still struggling with?

Would appreciate your thoughts. Thanks!

Hi, I am so grateful and happy to have gotten a 172 on sept test, 7sage I owe u my life. That being said, I am still be encouraged by people to take the October test bc I am already signed up, but I am not sure if I will do better than a 172. My august LSAT was a 161, so I am worried if I get like around a 168 or something (my pt average is a 169) than my 172 will look more like a fluke to schools, especially to t14s. I know some say that they only look at the highest score but is there no way the other scores could be a factor?

My highest ever pt score is a 175 but other than that I am consistently scoring between 171-168, mostly getting 170s.

I really would appreciate people's thoughts, thank you for your time!

I don't want to sit here and brag, so the numbers are just going in here for references for anyone viewing.

My first LSAT (Before doing this): 155

My September LSAT (After using this service for about 3 months): 174

I wanted to thank 7Sage for helping this improvement happen. It's huge, and this is a service I will always recommend because without it, on my own, studying would have been impossible for me. So, thank you for the help! And thank the discussion posts that made a great community!!

When negating answer choices for necessary assumption, what part of the statement is negated? In other words how are double negatives done?

A helpful example would be if someone could negate this please..?

Ex: Last year, at least some people responding to calls in the editorialist’s country wish to be perceived as unwilling to watch television news programs.

Hi everyone!

Can you guys please share your experience with logic games and how long it took you to see improvements and what sources helped you get a better understanding of the section? I’m on day 3 of doing logic games, and I know 3 days is nothing but I’m seeing no improvements AT ALLLL. I’m bombing all the drills in the core curriculum, and feeling very defeated.

Thank you!

I just got back my score and was soo relieved that I got in the 160 range. Literarily just a couple months ago, I had no hope that I could score into this range until I got 7sage. Thank you guys sooo much for everything! I am still going to take the October LSAT because I know that I can get up to the 163-165 range but I am super pleased with my score especially considering how nervous I was on test day. I hope everyone got a good score!!

Alphonse is the sort of guy who, if he marries a beautiful woman, will be jealous, and if he marries an ugly woman, will be discontent. Moreover, you can be sure that if he is either jealous or discontent, his marriage cannot last long. Alphonse did get married and recently celebrated his 50th wedding anniversary. What sort of a girl did he marry?

It seems that no matter what I do I can’t get even close to -0 timed. Either I rush to finish all 4 games and get 8 wrong for rushing or I don’t get to the last game at all and end up with a -5 or -6. I really need to get this down to below -3 if I’m to get the score I’m aiming for in October. If anyone has any pointers I’d be very grateful.

For context, I usually do at least 1 full LG section per day (4 games) but I’ll often do more (6-8 games). Then I’ll BR when I finish and then I’ll watch video explanations for the ones I was too slow on or didn’t understand. Still, I consistently score around -8 on any given timed section. Again, due to either rushing or not finishing. Please help me!!

I am preparing for the October test (been studying for a year and a half) and I took PT 92 this past weekend, scored 169 (170 if the experimental LG had been the real one). RC is harder than previous PTs (I missed -5) but something even stranger is the LR section. I can't put my finger on it but the recent LR sections are more difficult and a bit scary during timed sessions even during the first 10-15 questions which in previous tests were lighter and practice for the difficult questions later in the section.

How should I prepare for October? Has anyone noticed the difference and what exactly is different? For me, it feels like the language is the issue in that not only is it more abstract but also unnecessarily convoluted, whereas previous PTs were worded fairly legibly and focused more on the formal logic behind the questions.

I am aiming for 173+ and I just need some help in figuring out my LR strategy. I think if I can conquer this new LR format and control RC a bit (even go to -3 from -5) my score would improve tremendously.

Hi everyone! I have a question regarding necessary assumption questions. I am trying to get a better understanding of NA questions, since this is the area I am struggling with. I seem to be going for answers that seem relevant and may strengthen the argument, but are not needed/required.

For example, let's use this example from lsat trainer,

Argument: "Because we locked the door, no one can break into our house."

A possible correct answer choice may look like: "One cannot break into the house going through the chimney."

Wrong answer: "The door is the only way in and out of the house, and the locked door is impenetrable."

Here is a second example:

Argument: "My husband says I consume too much caffeine, but that is false. I only drink one cup of coffee a day, and one cup of coffee is not too much caffeine for a person to consume daily."

A possible correct answer choice: "She does not get an excess of caffeine from drinking tea."

Wrong answer choice: "Coffee is the only substance she consumes that contains caffeine."

The problem that I am having with these two examples from lsat trainer is that I am not seeing how the wrong answer is wrong. I understand for NA questions we are looking for an answer choice that is needed in order for the argument to be true. I did the negation test for the wrong answer choices and they still seem correct. For example in the second argument, the wrong answer choice is "coffee is the only substance she consumes that contains coffee" and in my mind when I did the negation test it was "it is not the case that coffee is the only substance she consumes that contains caffeine" or "coffee is not the only substance she consumes that contains caffeine." If that is true, couldn't this be an answer that is required for the argument?? If coffee is not the only substance she consumes that contains caffeine couldn't this wreck the argument??

Any help is appreciated! Thanks everyone!

Really confused as to why the definition is helpful to the argument. Could someone parse this out for me please?

I keep getting the same amount of questions wrong (roughly 4) on logical reasoning, even when untimed. I blind review and feel very confident in my (wrong) answers too. I think this means that I'm just thinking about the stimulus or approaching them incorrectly. What am I doing wrong, and how can I get past this plateau?