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I am currently going through the logic game drills from preptests 1-35. My process is to do the logic game (ex. logic game 1 from preptest 1) first under timed conditions, blind review and watch the explanation, and then repeat the game consecutively 10 times under timed conditions. Is this correct?

I was also wondering how much improvement in the logic games score you can get from foolproofing preptests 1-35

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Based on prior test date discussion boards it looks as though those scheduling emails typically go out ~2.5 weeks in advance, but curious if anyone has anything more concrete than that to share. I would love to have my time slot figured as I do have some potential conflicts on the 12th/13th... it stresses me out a little bit to have little information about when to expect the email and I'm paranoid I'll miss it/only notice it once all the most "desirable" time slots are gobbled up.

I don't even know if that's how it works.

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I don't have trouble with generating possible numerical distributions for In/Out or Grouping games, but for some reason I struggle to be able to quickly write out all the possible distributions for linear sequencing games with repeating variables (i.e. June 2007 Game 3). Is there a quick and easy trick to doing this? I find it involves a lot of overthinking and is a slow process for me.

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I've gotten good at getting -0 or -1 in LG unless I run into one of the really old misc games. Does anyone think it is worth my time to review them? Every time I go to watch an explanation video, J.Y. says something along the lines of "I don't think you'll see this on a modern LSAT," which is really discouraging me from putting in more work to get them down. Thoughts? Is anyone else running into this issue?

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Hi, I am struggling with games because I am not yet quickly able to make inferences to decipher the possible set ups. It seems this is the key to easily going through the questions, so I was wondering if there are any drills anywhere to practice this skill?

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Thursday, Jul 14, 2022

Help on LR

I need help, I suck big time in LR and I’m terrified, my test is in September! What should I do, I quit my two jobs and still can’t feel, I’m able to grasp this LR section. Never felt this way toward an exam before.

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Thursday, Jul 14, 2022

Why

What I put; A irrelevance to argument.

Wrong bc.

The conclusion itself is that selfishness is true of all time periods. This is the argument, it is not irrelevant to the argument. It is just argued poorly.

The correct anser is E.

The argument uses selfishness in two ways.

At first, characterizes selfishness as individualism.

Them, says that acts on behalf of the human species are selfish.

Acting on behalf of the human species may be selfish, but it is not individualistic.

The argument that all periods, not just the 80s, can be characterized by selfish individualism, is not advanced by saying acts on behaf of humankind r selfish

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Wednesday, Jul 13, 2022

Any LR Tips?

Hi, I'll be taking the August test and I wanted to know if anyone had any tips on timing for LR and problem solving. My goal score is a 170-175 and I'm finding myself stuck on certain question types. I'm currently scoring in the mid 160s and have majority of my wrong answers in LR. Thanks!

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Just started RC for like a month. Realize that most of questions I got wrong are either because I think too much or think too little (ignore some details which are stupidly obvious). Also struggling with time… Too much time wasted on reading and overthinking… I am not a good reader. The only books I ve read in my life are textbooks… Did my best to follow what JY suggested but got -14 on the Feb 1997 PT and scored 155. Feel crashed… I mean at least I need get over 160… A lot of people say I just need to practice more. But seriously, can practice actually make you better (not even perfect) on RC?

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My LR section is my worst and most inconsistent section, ranging from 17 to 23 on any particular test. I really want to get it up to a consistent 23, but I'm not sure how.

Things I've been doing:

  • Keeping a wrong answer journal and writing out an answer explanation for why I got the question wrong and why the correct answer is correct.
  • I've read all of the Loophole (by Ellen Cassidy)
  • Pacing myself during the test. I often, but not always, have enough time to answer every question on the test, but I typically feel rushed in the last 5 LR questions, when my pace slows considerably.
  • Drilling the last 5 LR questions on 15 prep tests to improve my pace and accuracy on the last few questions.
  • I take the LSAT in a month, and I've been plateauing on my LR for about two months. Any help would be much appreciated.

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    If anyone feels dejected by their current slow pace at LG, I am here to tell you it will get better. Below, I share how I went from -8 to -0 in three months on my LG section, which will hopefully inspire/help you out.

    The Beginning: Before I get into the specifics, I think it's important to address the mental shift I went through a couple weeks after my diagnostic. After missing 8 questions on my first PT, I thought that correctly answering 23 questions in 35 minutes was simply impossible. But then I showed the problems to my partner, and he whizzed through the games. I was gob smacked, impressed, and proud! I was also, admittedly, insecure about my own lack of skill.

    My first mistake was comparing my weakness to someone else's strength. In the back of my head, I thought things like "How will I ever do well in law school if these dumb puzzles are giving me so much grief?" The LSAT made me feel like I lacked this shiny quality of intelligence that someone could only be born with. Studying felt like a waste of time. Every missed question felt like a thorn in my foot. So, for a couple of weeks, I danced around the topics I was worst at, focusing on areas of less priority. Obviously, this method wasn't yielding any results, and I felt frustrated with my lack of progress.

    But then I read a post on Reddit that changed my entire approach. It said that improving your score requires ignoring your sense of pride and/or shame. I cannot overemphasize how important it was to hear someone telling me to get my head out of my ass. If you're in the same place of insecurity that I was, I'm here to tell you to snap the heck out of it. You. Can. Do. It. The LSAT is a SKILL that can be sharpened, not a measure of innate talent or intelligence that some people either have or don't have. Do. Not. Give. Up. Improvement took me three months, but there is no shame in it taking longer than that! The LSAT isn't going anywhere. Quit taking it personally. Buckle down and focus on what you're bad at.

    Here's how I did it:

    April - May: After realizing that I was being silly, I bought the Logic Games Powerscore Bible, which was helpful, but not perfect. It definitely familiarized me with all the different types of games and provided a LOT of drills and explanations that improved my accuracy, but I was NOT fast enough. If I were recommending it to someone, I would say that it was probably a good place to start. However, I probably gained the most improvement from listening to multiple test-prep sites explain games in different ways and picking the methods that worked best for me. After about four weeks of going through PowerScore and using a lot of its drills, I took another practice test and got -4 because I ran out of time and had to guess on a handful.

    June: I had to take a break from studying for a few weeks for personal reasons, but I came back around June 20th.

    Late June - July: When I took my first PT after returning, I was SOO rusty. After a few days of doing more LG drills from Powerscore again, though, I noticed my skills returning to their previous level. However, I was consistently still running out of time on the LG section. So, I drilled at least 2 hours a day for a week using Khan Academy because I thought maybe a different platform would be beneficial, but it didn't seem to be helping too much. I was STILL averaging -3/-4 on each LG section.

    July: That's when I sought out 7sage. I felt like I needed a COMPLETELY different approach to the LG than what the Powerscore Bible had given me. If you also used that book, you'll know it told you to write down Not Laws when possible. Because I had gotten 15/23 on my diagnostic test, I assumed that I had to follow the Powerscore Bible religiously (pun intended) and hadn't even considered deviating from its instructions.

    However, I feel like writing Not Laws slowed me down considerably. For some reason, JY giving me permission in one of the first LG videos to NOT write the Not Laws was exactly what I needed. After a week on 7Sage and giving up on my Not Law notations, I've noticed serious speed improvement and achieved my first perfect LG section yesterday!!

    Final takeaways? As you can see, progress isn't always linear or predictable. Try multiple platforms and see what explanations work best for you, combining them if you want. Be kind to yourself at the beginning. You're learning a new skill, not testing an innate quality. And lastly, practice practice practice. Don't shy away from the difficult stuff if you want to actually improve.

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    I have been using 7sage for over a year now and ive barely taken practice tests.

    Im having trouble concentrating after the first section.

    Is there any way to improve or lengthen the amount of time I can study for?

    I have about a month left and im not even sure how much ive improved since I cant finish a practice test.

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    I've taken a few practice tests in the 70s, a few 80s, and some 60s. I don't have that much time left till september and obviously there are way more practice tests than I can do in time for the test (I'm studying while working full-time). Anyone know how I can figure out which PTs I should make sure I take before the test? I'm saving all the 90s for the month of August. Thank you!

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    Hello,

    I am taking the test in August, and I am trying to get my scoring to be more consistent. My goal is a 172. Here are the results from my last 4 tests:

    PT 63:

    LR -1

    LG -3

    RC -3

    PT 64:

    LR -1

    LG -0

    RC -2

    PT 65:

    LR -4

    LG -1

    RC -4

    PT 66

    LR -1

    LG -2

    RC -4

    My current plan is to take two full PTs a week and take one day a week to take a PT section by section spaced out. Does that seem like enough? Any tips for consistency? I feel like I can never do well in every section.

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    I asked before with some help with LGs and now have perfected those! Now I am onto conquering RCs, and LRs. LR is where I think I can make some decent improvement.

    Overall on my PTs I can get 163-166.

    RC ranges from -4 to -7. That I am seeing a little improvement here and there.

    LR can range from -4 to -7 as well.

    LR I feel like I've been on a struggle bus. I work full time, so I do one PT a week, BR, and then try to review it. I also have tried to add some drilling of LRs I feel weak in. (Particularly NAs, PSAs, sometimes MSS).

    One thing I have noticed is sometimes I make mistakes from reading a question stem, ac, or stimulus, and miss a VITAL Word! so sometimes I make dumb mistakes here and there....ugh

    I am finding with my wrong journal-ling/BR, I know the question stems pretty well and what to do. I often just fall for traps answers as well. In particular the last 5 questions of the section usually beat me up.

    I kinda also feel like drilling has made me worse?

    Anyways, any advice or tips would be helpful! Is it dumb to drop LR drilling, and just review my wrong journal?

    Any tips of how to review wrong journal better?

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    Wednesday, Jul 6, 2022

    MBT MSS

    So, I'm having a bit of trouble with MBT MSS questions.

    I take way too much time just comprehending the passages.

    Does anyone have any tips on this?

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    JY often "plays" with the rules in a LG before he does the questions. Do you all recommend doing this even on timed tests? If so, do you do so in your mind's eye, or actually on paper?

    I usually play with the rules in difficult games when I'm doing BR, but not on the timed tests. I'm thinking about whether I should change this practice.

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