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I was so frustrated when the proctor unmuted his mic and told me to "stand up!" I then told him no because I was taking my test and the time was ticking, in which he replied "okay, sorry." I lost my train of thought while working on a logic game and had to start over. As a result, I was not able to finish the last two questions of that section which left me frustrated throughout the rest of the exam.

Will I be able to re-take the LSAT?

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Hey 7Sagers,

Here's the official November 2022 LSAT Discussion Thread.

REMINDER: Under your Candidate Agreement, you may not discuss the details of any specific LSAT questions at any time. For the November LSAT, general discussion of what sections you had, or how difficult you found a given section, or speculation about which sections were scored or unscored, is prohibited until after 9pm ET, Tuesday, November 15th.

Posts that violate these rules will be taken down and may result in disciplinary action from LSAC. Let’s work together to ensure the test is fair to everyone, and not share information before everyone has taken the test.

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The following comments are okay 🙆‍♀️

  • the section on Cambodian woodworking really had me second guessing everything.
  • a few of the games had me confused but think I was okay.
  • overall fair test, struggled on a couple of RC passages (damn you polymorphic molecules) but think I was okay hoping for a -2 or -3
  • The following comments are over the line 🙅‍♂️

  • the passage on Cambodian woodworking didn’t count.
  • I had Cambodian woodworking, Fireflies, and rice farming in Iowa so Lithuanian Lithograph Libraries was experimental.
  • fair test but struggled on a couple RC passages (polymorphic molecules anyone? Thankfully it didn’t count). Don’t want to take again in June
  • Anyone know if Polygamist Societies in the 1880s was real or experimental?
  • Please tell me that polygon dice game didn’t count
  • Good luck to everyone taking the November LSAT!

    **Please keep all discussions of the November 2022 LSAT here!**(/red)

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    Hey everybody! Tomorrow/the day after is game day! Good luck. I'm rooting for you. What are you going to do today to relax/get ready? Personally, I'm gonna take one last mini-drill (a logic game, a reading passage, and 5 LR Q's) then go on a hike or get into nature, workout, maybe game a bit, etc. I'm proud of the work I've done, and you should be too. We're all going to make it. I will be sending out big-brain vibes to you all tomorrow.

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    Hi! I recently did the drill for the weakening section and saw that two of my questions were pulled from PrepTest A and didn't have explanation videos. I noticed on the explanation videos tab there was a "Test A February 1996", but that there are only explanations for logic games. What makes PrepTest A different from other tests? Are the explanations somewhere else?

    Thanks!

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    Hi, this is a necessary assumption question.

    The conclusion is "by using recycled glasses instead of glass made from raw materials, bottlers can lower their costs and benefit the environment at the same time."

    The answer is D. "purchasing and transport costs are not so much greater for recycled glass than for raw materials that they outweigh the savings in energy costs resulting from the use of recycled glass."

    I cannot understand why the answer is D.. and also I cannot get the meaning of D. The savings in energy costs are outweighed by...

    please, help me!

    Admin Note: Edited title. Please use the format: "PT#.S#.Q# - brief description of the question"

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    I am really struggling to see improvement on logical reasoning. I consistently score-8/-9. I have went through the curriculum on 7sage and have been consistently drilling. There is not a single question type I am always getting wrong, it seems to be random. I am starting to panic as I plan to take the January Lsat.

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    Hello everyone! I am consistently getting flaw or descriptive weaking questions wrong. No matter what I do, I just cannot improve. Does anyone have tips for these types of questions? Also, just in general. I always get stuck between two answers and choose the wrong one. Sometimes I choose the right one and over think and then I change it. How can I gain more confidence in myself?

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    Hi everyone,

    So bewildered by this question that I have to post on the discussion forum. Why is answer choice E correct??? After analyzing all the answer choices, it seems to me that NONE of the answer choices is even close to being correct. If someone can see a flaw in my reasoning, please advise.

    Missing Assumption: the higher amount of pollutants in the Baltic Sea is making the Baltic seals more susceptible/succumb-able to viral diseases and therefore is what's causing the higher rate of viral deaths in Baltic seals (compared to Scottish seals).

    In other words, we're assuming that it is not some alternative cause that's causing the higher viral death rate in the Baltic seals (for example, what if the viruses infecting the 2 islands are different, and the virus in the Baltic sea is just more deadly than the virus in the Scottish sea?)

    A: Irrelevant - doesn't make it more believable that the higher rate of viral deaths in B is due to pollutants. Knowing more about the Scottish seals doesn't really matter here!

    B: Might've be a potential strengthener if it said "Baltic seals" instead of "Scottish seals", but even then we would have to make the assumption that the virus infecting the two islands were the same kind of virus in order for us to see this as a strengthener.

    However, it's still talking about the Scottish seals, which again is not what we care about!

    C: Easiest choice to eliminate. Irrelevant!

    D : "The kinds of pollutants" is irrelevant to our discussion here, because we care about the amount and not type of pollutants. In other words, even if the pollutants are different between the 2 islands are different, I'm not more convinced that the higher amount of pollutants in B is what resulted in the higher rate of viral deaths in B.

    E: Also irrelevant to the issue at hand! Even if the viral death rate was higher for other sea mammals in the Baltic sea, it doesn't make me believe more that it is SPECIFICALLY the pollutants that are causing the higher viral death rates! The only thing this AC does for me is convince me that there is certainly something different between the Baltic and Scottish seas that's making the Baltic seals die more from viral diseases, however we have no idea if that "something" is pollutants or if it's something else! For example, given the additional info in E, it could still very well be that it is NOT the pollutants causing the higher viral death rates, but a deadlier virus that infects all marine mammals in the Baltic seas - because the virus in the Baltic sea is different and deadlier than the virus in the Scottish sea, the seals die more from this virus in the Baltic seas (than in the Scottish seas from the weaker virus). It could still very well be that the higher level of pollutants in the Baltic seals' blood is just a coincidence and not the real cause of their higher viral death rate.

    If you see where I've gone wrong in my reasoning, please help!

    Admin Note: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-23-section-3-question-13/

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    Hi All,

    This is my first post, so if I make any major "faux pas", please let me know. This post is regarding a MSS question on PT Feb 1997, Section 3, Question 16.

    In this question stimulus, we are given a discussion about zebra mussels—an invasive species in the Great Lakes that possesses some redeeming qualities. Zebra mussels consume algae that they filter from the water, and in discharge streams, they improve water quality by removing some amounts of hazardous waste.

    Question stem: Which one of the following is most strongly supported on the basis of the statements above, if they are true?

    Responses:

    (A). Zebra mussels arrived on transatlantic freighters, and displace native species.

    A is incorrect. This is because it is irrelevant how or why the Zebra mussels are here. We want to know what the implications of their redeeming qualities and presence in the lakes means for the chemical plant.

    (B). If Zebra mussels spread to the Mississippi River, the clam industry will collapse.

    B is incorrect. This response is irrelevant, we simply don't have any information in the passage to show that the Mississippi River clam industry will collapse. Also, we aren't really interested in this information either.

    (C). There is no mechanical means of clearing the Zebra mussels.

    C is incorrect. This response is irrelevant and is not supported by the passage. There very well could be mechanical means or other means of clearing the Zebra mussels.

    After reviewing all of the answers, I was down to the final two responses:

    (D). The algae on which the mussels feed would, if not consumed by the mussels, would clog the intake pipes at the chemical plants.

    D This answer is incorrect. I anticipated that this statement is the most strongly supported. Based on my initial reading, it seemed like this would be a logical inference to make. The algae would likely clog the intake pipes, BUT FOR the zebra mussels consuming them.

    Do we not have enough information from the passage to support this answer?

    (E). Any hazardous waste the mussels remove from the chemical plant will remain in the mussels, if they do not transform it, they must be regarded as hazardous waste.

    Answer (E) is the correct answer. This answer is the most strongly supported response. This answer is somewhat sensible, but it still seems a bit off. How do we know that the hazardous waste will go into the mussels? The last clause of the sentence makes sense "if they do not transform it, they (the mussels) must be regarded as hazardous waste". However, for this to be true, we must accept the first clause of the sentence, which I don't think we currently have enough support in the passage to make.

    Note: This is the major curve-breaking response, and is likely a major source of error/frustration for many. I am one of the frustrated ones. In short, I am still a bit confused on why E is correct, rather than D. Answer E simply sounded a bit too a dystopian Sci-Fi of a response to be correct.

    I would appreciate any feedback that you folks have to offer. Thanks.

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    #HELP!

    I took the October exam, scored 168 which wasn't too surprising since that had been my score on several PTs leading up to the test. I am signed up for next week & goal is to score 171+. Took the newly released PT 93 today & scored my highest ever, 175!!!!

    I am super conflicted because if I take the test next week, it will be my 4th time & if I score lower than 168, I don't want admissions to think that the score is a fluke and not something I worked hard for. If I score higher than 170, great! However, is this a risk worth taking? For reference, I would like to attend a T20 school with substantial scholarships, looking at USC Law for which I fall right at the median LSAT but lower than median GPA.

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