So I’ve posted once before and would like to get a new perspective on this question. I thought the second sentence was supported by the first and so picked answer choice C. Why is that not the case? Could I have someone who truly understands the question break it down completely so this post thread doesn’t get too long? Like break down the role each sentence plays? I thought it was premise (people only care about what’s an obvious threat) subsidiary conclusion (that’s why people see contaminated water as a threat rather than ozone) then main conclusion (why we won’t have a grassroots movement to combat air pollution anytime soon) but that’s wrong apparently.

I thought we weren’t supposed to pick answer choices with “some” in weakening and strengthening questions because the choice would have little to no effect on the argument. Is that a rule of thumb I should forget about? Because this question appears to break that “rule.”

Feel like my accuracy is improving on weaken questions but how do I improve speed? Any suggestions?

Hello, I cannot seem to find a specific video on resolve the paradox questions anyone know if there is one?

Time solts are live on PROCTOR U, they will fill up very very quickly so act fast!

Could someone help me understand how AC E counters the city officials response?

On another note, I have a tendency to want to set off either the sufficient condition, or contrapose the necessary for 'if' statements in order to prove that they will work, but is that even required for a weaken question or is the 'if' possibility of an idea taking place enough to weaken an argument?

Thanks!

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Hi everyone, I took the test two days ago and I’ve tried not to think about it but I‘m starting to feel that I didn’t do as well as I planned to. I think LG went well, I was confident about my answers except for one question. RC I feel okay about but given that this section has always varied for me (-5 to -8) I can’t say for sure. LR is the toss-up. I don’t know if you guys have experienced this but the questions seemed foreign and I just can’t pinpoint why. Usually in practice I’m able to eliminate and narrow down to two choices but for several questions I had three choices still remaining and couldn’t quite pinpoint the purpose of the stimulus. I felt this way about LR in August (first time taking) as well but at that point I thought perhaps I just didn’t have enough experience. Obviously I won’t know my score until December but I’m feeling bummed that the section I was most excited about I just couldn’t execute as planned.

With about two months to January, I am thinking about reading the Loophole — has this been helpful for any of you? My goal score is 170 and at this point I feel like maybe I should go back to the basics and try the sections untimed to guage my accuracy before continuing with timed practices. Would appreciate all advice! Thanks!

I've been drilling MSS questions, and this one had me hung up for a while. I initially chose C, but then chose D during BR - would appreciate it if someone could validate my thought process in how I got to the right answer (mostly through POE). #help

Stimulus: For the same crime, it's unfair how famous vs unknown criminals are sentenced, even though the principle of equality says there shouldn't be a discrepancy in how people are sentenced due to fame, etc. (For a while, the "however" really threw me off because I thought for some reason that the principle of equality was used to counter the uneven sentences in a resentencing/retributive manner...I was very confused lol)

A) "only a few": we don't know this. Technically it could be 99% of trials that are for unknown defendants so it's actually a majority

B) "The number should equal" - proportionally this doesn't make sense, since there's maybe like 1 famous criminal per 1000 unknown defendants

C) "Can properly be overridden by other principles" What principles are we talking about?

D) Yes - basically what the author is saying. This sentencing is unfair and a breach of the equality principle

E) We don't know if it does or doesn't allow for leniency

For those that got the retake, how do you go about signing up for a spot on proctor u?

I apologize for how long this is, but I wanna make sure I give enough details.

So I just took the November LSAT and it went veryyy bad. To start, my grandfather passed away yesterday, so I spent the whole day with my family, not thinking about the LSAT at all. Today, I really tried to refocus before my 2:40 test, and I was hoping that I’d be too distracted by the test to think about everything going on, which was somewhat the case.

However, my dogs were barking like maniacs the entire first half until the break when I was able to quiet them down. My first section (LR) was awful. I was so distracted by the nonstop barking that I couldn’t process a single question. I was so stressed out I wanted to cry. I did my best but honestly, I didn’t feel 100% about any of them and usually I feel at least pretty sure about 75% of the LR section, and will get about 4/5 wrong. My second section was RC which is usually my worst section but I actually felt like it went better than LR.

After the break, I was less distracted but still flustered because of how bad I started out. LG, which is usually my best, seemed like it went ok until the end when I got short on time and wasn’t 100% about the last couple. My last section was RC and was worse than the first RC. I ran out of time and had to guess on the last 3/4.

Overall I just don’t feel good about it. For my June test, I felt pretty good coming out of it and ended up with a 165. I stopped studying until the end of Sept. when I decided to take the November LSAT. My PTs during those 5ish weeks ranged from 160-171. Ultimately, I’m not sure if I should cancel or just hope that maybe it’ll only be a few points lower like 161/162 and maybe that won’t look awful?? I’m also nervous that if I do end up getting significantly lower then admissions officers will wonder why I didn’t cancel. I’m just not sure what to do. The schools that I’m hoping to get into have medians that are 165, 167, 169, which is why I was hoping to boost my score even just a point.

Does anyone understand this question?

I got letter D as my answer, but it is wrong and there is no explanation videos to help me understand.

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Based on some recent RC translation drills, I've been struggling with "main purpose" questions. It seems I don't have a super crisp understanding of what it is, which was painful to realize and seems kind of silly since it's so basic. But yeah I'd really like to nip this in the bud when it's so foundational and would appreciate 7Sage feedback.

Here's where I'm at. I thought purpose refers to the WHY -- Why is the author telling me about this topic? What is their intent? But I recently realized this approach/question causes me extrapolate too far to come up with an answer. I'll mix perceived attitude or off-hand comments in the passage into an incorrect "purpose" summary.

Can you help explain "main purpose" in RC? How do you approach it? How does it connect back to MP? Thanks!

Hi,

I took the LSAT today and had technical difficulties, therefore I was granted a retest. This was my first time taking the LSAT so I purchased Score Preview. According to LSAC, I cannot use Score Preview again since I am technically not a first time test taker.

Will I be able to see my score if I opt for the retest?

If I cancel my score and take the next offered LSAT will I be able to see my previous score and use Score Preview if necessary.

Lastly, as score preview cancellations counts as candidate cancel - do cancelations and retest count the original cancelled test as candidate cancel, or show no record of it? ... Will the test I took today be notated as cancelled, if I opt for the retest?

What do you think my best course of action is given that I have Score Preview? - Im thinking opt for retest since the technical issues definitely affected my score.

Thanks so much.

Hey 7Sagers,

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Has anyone done this PT and have insight into how to solve this question? I understand why B is correct (the stimulus says that lemurs, which are lower primates, are the only primates indigenous to Madagascar), but I'm not sure why you cannot also infer A. The only living diurnal lower primates are certain species of lemurs, and higher primates evolved from a diurnal species of lower primate. Therefore, chimpanzee's, which are higher primates, evolved from lemurs.

WAIT, I get it. If the stimulus said that the only diurnal lower primates (DLP) EVER were lemurs, then A would be correct. But, it actually says the only living DLPs are lemurs. Therefore, there could have been some other DLP in the past that was not a lemur from which chimpanzees evolved. So we cannot properly infer A!

Posting in case anyone else needs an explanation because there are no official ones yet for this PT. Classic LSAT with the sneaky wording.

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I have a random question LMAO! If in a grouping logic game the rule is: if W then T or F

does that mean that if I have T or F in the yes/in group, I must have W as well

or can I have T or F without the W

Took the LSAT yesterday. After my 10 minute break it took an additional 20 minutes for me to connect with a proctor and re-enter the test. I was terrified that something had gone wrong (I sent them a message every few minutes with zero response), but everything was smooth afterwards.

Just wanted to let test takers know that this is a possibility to be prepared for!

Hi all

I worked through the 7sage curriculum and saw a pretty huge score increase (143 diagnostic up to a high of 159, averaging high 150's now). Logical Reasoning is definitely my 'weak' point, especially factoring in there being two LR sections. I want to leave time to just do practice tests leading up to the exam. My question is, having done the LR portion of the curriculum in the summer, and starting out completely unfamiliar with the test, should I just go through the 7sage LR lessons again, or should I try out the Loophole? I really only have time for one.

Hey guys! I'm taking the test tomorrow and I'm quite excited to take it (believe it or not). What are some ways to maintain positive energy levels and motivation going into the test and during? For me what has worked the most is quick meditation early in the morning and treating the test like four section tests instead of viewing it as a daunting 3-hour exam. The first time I took the exam I was blindsided by the order of the first section and that feeling lingered onto the remaining sections. NEVER AGAIN!

I'm going to do a few drills today and watch a movie and rest the remainder of the day.

Sending everyone taking the November test positive energy and manifesting that we all reach our goal scores! All the best :)

Hi All,

I had the chance to do an LR question again for a recent tutoring session and noticed a few things that could be helpful for your prep. One question I find a lot of students asking me is, "What do I do if I don't see the flaw?" Let's use this FLAW question as a model for possible approaches. (Try doing it on your own if you haven't. The answer is below)

PT 59 S3 20:

P: the lightest moths with the greatest contrast were most likely to be eaten

C: therefore, the darkest moths were least likely to be eaten

At first glance, the argument looks solid. If you're like me and don't know much about moths, you probably thought, "ok yeah of course dark moths would be more likely to survive than light moths...what's the issue? obviously, there's something I'm missing here."

It'd be great if you can immediately diagnose the flaw (authors assumes a false dichotomy). But what do you do if you can't see the flaw? You gotta find ways to finesse!

Let me suggest how:

(1) Start with the big picture: Focus on improving your comprehension of the argument by simplifying it into your own words. The battle is always won in the stimulus, and an argument is always a conclusion being supported by premises. Make sure you get to the core of it.

(2) Zoom in on the details: Next, look to the descriptor words and consider what is being compared to get your clues. At least for this particular question, ​the author is comparing the Darkest/Lightest moths, with the Greatest contrast, and arguing which among them is Most/Least likely to be eaten.

These words indicate extremes--colors and probabilities. Hmm...if there is a darkest/lightest, then there has to be varying degrees of color in between, right?" HA I see it now! Before, I assumed that there was a dichotomy between ​dark vs light moths. Now I realize, oh! there has to be a spectrum between the darkest to lightest! There must to be moths of varying degrees of darkness and lightness in between. Perhaps grey shaded moths have higher rates of survival! Got it.

And that's why D is the answer.

How did we get here? We started with the big picture, zoomed in to the details, and focused on the most relevant parts of the argument to improve our comprehension, then found clues that led us to the flaw.

I hope this helps you find new steps to take next time you're stuck wondering what to do next!

I am taking the test for the first time tomorrow at 2:40 and I'm not sure if I should take PT92+ just to have one more under my belt. Thoughts? Pros and Cons? Thank you all!! And good luck if you're taking November!

I'm doing well enough on answering the questions, understanding the passages...but for the love of God I am struggling to get to the 4th passage and it's killing my scores. Tips? Tricks? Helpful videos?

I've read through the comments and still don't really quite get it. Yes, I see people referencing to https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/why-is-or-so-confusing/, but that lesson barely touches on the nuances of "than either ... or" in a comparative context. Quite a few posters made inquiries on this, but there wasn't really any explanation given.

Other than just taking this particular usage as axiomatic truth and accept that "than either ... or" in a comparative context (e.g. the parmigiano cheese is more expensive than either the cheddar cheese or the provolone cheese) necessarily means "and", how else can I digest all this? I'm curious, b/c the inference gleaned from that one stylistic choice has a big effect on the game (probably shaving at least 2 minutes for a particular question, if not helping to resolve the game board significantly).

I should also mention that had the phrasing been along the lines of "more expensive than either of the other two cheeses" (as opposed to "better than either the cheddar or the provolone"), that would have also removed the ambiguity.

Thanks in advance

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What do you all do for a last-minute revision for LSAT RC?

I'm currently focusing on RC and get about 8 to 10 wrong. I'm not sure what is the right way to review your wrong answers? Usually I'll just re-read the question and look at the right answer and say "oh, that makes sense". But I know that's not good enough. Any tips?